Talk:Jurassic Park III/Archive 1

"Billy, Stop!" Why?
Before Billy jumped, what was Alan thinking? Was he thinking Billy was going to comment suicide?

Alan simply thought it would be too much of a risk.--Name Theft Victim 03:06, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

But did Alan really think he was going to do what he did?

Fan created "explanation" for different appearance of island in II and III
The only thing worse than unenyclopedic, unfactual, unverifiable, original research information is somebody reinstating it after it is removed. The fact is that a different location was used in each movie; fine nothing wrong with explaining that in the trivia section. However, going on to state some mumbo jumbo about each movie taking place on different parts of the island to explain away this "error" is just plain silly. The makers of the movie did not intend this, and, quite frankly, probably did not care whether the island looked the same in both movies or not. Therefore, this information is entirely fan creation and in no way encyclopedic. I therefore removed this little tidbit only to discover that someone had put it back in. The statement clearly violates wikipedia policy, and reverting my change is akin to vandalism. I do hope this stops. Indrian 04:49, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

what do you think attacked the boat?
I mean there is never no metetion of sea monsters or anything like that. and anything flying would have not been able to sink the boat so quick.

I think its an aquatic reptile such as a plesiosaur. Perhaps it could be the same deal as the spino, a creature that wasnt on InGen's list.

It could have been a spinosaurus, since many believe the animal to have hunted fish. The moviemakers made the jump to assume that it would sometimes roam totally submerged in rivers in one scene, so it wouldn't surprise me if they assumed it also journeyed out to sea....it's a movie, lots of unfounded assumptions are going to be made.

It was the usual "terror below the surface" stereotype with the "ridge-sail" of the Spinosaurus instead of the usual shark-fin...

It could be suggested that the two-largest theropods, Tyrannotitan and Spinosaurus were partially aquatic. It is not unusual for large animals to tend living into water, which can support their body weight relieving them from the stress of "carrying theirselves". For example: sea turtles tend to be larger than land turtles; the Saltwater Crocodile is the largest living reptile; the Green Anaconda, which is partially aquatic, is heavier than the Reticulated Python. Also mammals could serve as examples like the two largest land mammals, Hippopotamus and Elephant, being semi-aquatic, and the Whales, which are the largest animals of all time, being exclusively aquatic. There are other evidence that those two huge theropods could be semi-aquatic, for example Tyrannotitan had a flattened tail that could help it propel itself into water, while the ridge-sail of Spinosaurus could possibly help in maintening swim stability as the dorsal fin of sharks and dolphins do. Spino also had elongated snout and curved teeth which may represent a piscivorous lifestyle.

I think it was a elasmosaur. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.176.105.227 (talk) 15:19, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

Peter Pan joke(s?)
I think the whatever-o-saurus announcing his appearance with the ringing cell phone he swallowed is a reference to the crocodile from Peter Pan doing the same because it swallowed a clock. With some knowledge of American popular culture this seems obvious, but I am reluctant to add it to the article, because it would seem like polluting trivia and it is OR on my part. I'd like some opinions. — Mütze 12:15, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree, I thought the same thing while watching that scene. However I would advise against adding it without some sort of verifiability behind the statement. This is actually the first time I've ever heard it being brought up. But if you do happen to find something to back it up, maybe some random interview somewhere, it sure would be a great addition!--Arkcana 04:55, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

1+1=2. Mathematicians could expand and verify it, yet what would be the purpose of that?

Michael Chrichton never saw JP3?
Didn't Michael Chhrichton mention that he'd never see JP3? If so, shouldn't this be added to the article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.119.129.129 (talk) 16:19, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

Question about plot outline
Nov 21, 2007 - Hey, on the plot outline, my understanding was that at the end of the movie, Grant does not actually "Communicate" with the raptors, but instead makes a sound similiar to that of a cry for help, which in turn scares the other raptors away thinking they were in danger. Never edited a Wikipedia page before, so I won't change it, but I thought I would bring it up in case anyone wanted to find some kind of citation that supports this. Thanks! 208.218.12.45 (talk) 20:42, 21 November 2007 (UTC)Nick

Nov 27, 2007 - Ah, very sharp. I believe it was me who wrote that line, based on an assumption from my memory of that scene... Your assessment sounds correct to me, but for the time being I have changed it to "Grant manages to alleviate the situation by imitating a velociraptor call which the raptors understand and respond to". If you've watched that scene recently and think it's clear what's going on, don't be afraid to edit! --RainbowWerewolf (talk) 23:24, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:JurassicParkSPINO2.jpg
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Feathers on Velociraptors (with better references)
I put back in the info about velociraptor feathers and tyrannosuarus scavenging that was deleted with the scientific accuracy section, rewriting it from the more of a design standpoint rather than an accuracy standpoint (at least the velocirator-feather isssue), and trying to find better references. Its not original research as far as I can see, and the Velociraptor article (a featured article) goes into even more depth about this film in its popular culture section. I personally feel that this is one of the most interesting things about this film. i think that feathered dinosaurs in a blockbuster film is something of an event in terms of the scientific community's bird/dinosaur evolution debate and its history with the general public. If you disagree, take it out of the article, but it would be nice if we could discuss it here first! Maybe it would be best to just link to the velociraptor article's discussion... the : Biological issues in Jurassic Park]] article also has a little bit about htis issue, so it wouldn't be the end of the world i suppose if that info doesn't make it into this particlar article (although i think it should). --RainbowWerewolf (talk) 17:17, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I believe I was the one who took out the scientific accuracy section originally, but I have no problem with the way to put the material back in. I am not sure I agree that feathered dinosaurs in a movie is as significant as you make it out to be, but it is interesting nonetheless.  When I removed the information, it was in a separate scientific accuracy section, which I think is not relevant to discussing the move itself.  You have reinserted the information as part of the movie making process, however, ie describing how the crew went about designing the dinosaurs for the movie.  Maybe this is a pointless distinction and I am just splitting hairs, but I consider the old way the information was presented as irrelevant and the way it is presented now as just fine.  Indrian (talk) 18:36, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

T. Rex
The film also portrays Tyrannosaurus as being partly a scavenger and less powerful/aggressive, reflecting the controversy among scientists surrounding that issue.

Jack Horner is the only palaeontologist I know of who still seriously suggests that T. Rex was an obligate scavenger; the "controversy" over T. Rex's predatory prowess doesn't really exist in the scientific community, where there is evidence to suggest that it preyed on living animals (healed bite marks in the bones of Edmontosaurus.) Last I checked, the general concensus was that T. Rex was an opportunistic predator that would probably scavenge if given the chance. I've edited the article to reflect the scavenger hypothesis being Horner's opinion instead.

K00bine (talk) 17:29, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Trivia
I feel a Trivia section, should be added. I know these are usually deleted, but it could be useful for information about the "Biological Issues" and other miscellaneous notes. --JohnVMaster (talk) 05:02, 14 April 2008 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry but Trivia sections should Not be added to articles. At all. Ever. I suppose waht you could do is write a new section, named "Biological Errors" or something, and cite some good sources, otherwise I wouldn't advise it, it would most probably be deleted. Philbuck222 (talk) 20:35, 14 April 2008 (UTC)


 * There is an entire article about those issues in the JP movies (Biological issues in Jurassic Park), there is no reason to add such stuff to the individual pages. But you could maybe link to it somewhere in the article, if it isn't already. Funkynusayri (talk) 20:49, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Use of 'produced'
In the section of Jurassic Park III, it says a movie was "produced" under the title of Jurassic Park: Extinction. I don't know the background, but it seems unlikely that a movie was produced and then shelved. Is that what is intended for readers to understand? Or am I misreading it? ParsonBoyles (talk) 21:25, 23 April 2008 (UTC)

¿InGen list?
In a scene where Grant and his sidekick are talking about the Spinosaurus, one of them says "I don't remember that one on InGen's list". Is that a plot hole? Because ever since I first heard about it, I wanted to know how the hell was the Spinosaurus created, if it wasn't by InGen. I suppose that was the build up for the third sequel. Should we include this particular detail in the article? --Surten (talk) 01:27, 10 January 2009 (UTC)Surten
 * I think they were referring to the fact that InGen had 'secret experiments' no one knew about that only became exposed after the facilities were abandoned.--99.179.75.218 (talk) 21:30, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

Hmmmm...
I didn't see the Spinosaurus "flee". After Grant sets the river on fire, the Spino convulses and backs up into the crane, and then it...vanishes. I don't mean to have a bad attitude or anything, but I think it died. (If that's the case CUSRSE YOU GRANT!!!!)

No it did flee, it ran off into the tree's. Spinodontosaurus (talk) 17:41, 16 December 2009 (UTC)

Capitalization
An IP editor has undone my my earlier edit which lowercased the initial letters for dinosaurs' species mentioned in the Plot section. I wonder how WP:MOS on fauna names applies in this case, with the plot mentioning individual animals rather than dinosaur species collectively. I could not arrive at a conclusion upon reading it. Do we still refer to an individual velociraptor with a capital "V"? Regards, Cinosaur (talk) 00:47, 27 December 2010 (UTC)

Jurassic World
The mention of Jurassic World is terribly insufficient and in my opinion, threatens the continued existence of this article's Good Article status. D ARTH B OTTO talk•cont 09:40, 4 October 2014 (UTC)

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