Talk:Jynx

Vandalism
Just letting people know.. that this page was vandalized with the pictures of penises at the top.

To whoever who is doing this--GROW UP!

Holiday Hi-Jynx
In the article it says that: Holiday Hi-Jynx...isn't re-aired in English

But I have seen it on Tooonami UK. Does anyone have further information on this? Sonic Mew 21:01, May 17, 2005 (UTC)


 * I kept editting it as "isn't re-aired in USA", but I don't know who always change it back!! =o=|||

Ive seen that chritmas ephisode with jynx in it on kidswb Im it may have just been one time but they aired the ephisode in america

KEEP THE CURRENT JYNX IMAGE 'Ani124.gif' OK
unsigned comment by 207.200.24.241, also known as Jsmith


 * Ken Sugimori artwork:
 * Image:124jynx.png
 * The picture Jsmith wants:
 * Image:Ani124.gif
 * Image:Ani124.gif

Let's keep the Ken Sugimori artwork. Sonic Mew June 30, 2005 16:36 (UTC)

I second that. Jynx looks better purple anyway. RiffRaff1138 July 1, 2005 03:56 (UTC)


 * It isn't the matter of looking better or not lol. Jynx is ugly anyway. Its the politically correctness that counts! jynx

All I can do is laugh and shake my head... I didn't even know blackface was a racial thing until I came to the Internet, and it wasn't until a week or so ago that I learned just what it was (I had, however, seen some of the blackface stuff from ages past within the past year). Dang, Mr. Popo, Jynx... I never knew! I just knew they looked kind of freaky. Popo, however, I liked, unlike Jynx... *shivers* T.J. Fuller, Jr. 08:43, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

AG116-AG117
In the US will these two episodes be aired?? Jynx
 * As Jynx is purple, it is likely, (and as May's last Contest challenge, it will be hard for 4Kids to get around.) But we won't know for sure until we get to that point in the dub. Sonic Mew | talk to me 21:36, July 25, 2005 (UTC)

If Jynx was still the colour black in those two episodes would 4kids still air it???

Also why in Japan did they change the color of Jynx if the problem was only in America and maybe England??


 * a decsent company would not want to offend anyone.
 * It doesn't seem to be a problem in England anyway, since we get "Holiday Hi-Jynx", but the above comment is corret. Sonic Mew | talk to me 19:51, August 13, 2005 (UTC)

This may or may not be interesting but pokémon.com still displays the original, black-faced image. --Celestianpower hab 20:01, 13 August 2005 (UTC)


 * I have checked Pokemon.com like a hundred times, and there is no black. jynx 21:14, 22 October 2005 (UTC)

and it would be pointless if they show it because it won't fit the storyline anymore jynx 21:11, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
 * AND THE ANSWER IS IT DID NOT AIR!!

Pokémon figurine
WHY DID THEY BAN THE JYNX Pokémon figurine COULDN'T THEY JUST PAINT OVER THE BLACK WITH SOME PURPLE??

It isn't even re-produced in Japan... and Nintendo of USA "claims" that Jynx is "not popular" in USA. XD


 * Well obviously they wouldn't admit their real reasoning. But re-painting costs a lot of money - Jynx certainly still isn't among the most popular so would it be worth it?  Plus, the purple was only added in the third generation, so it has not had effect yet.  Perhaps future models will be sneaked back in, but we don't know if the Jynx contest episode will air yet and they won't want more controversy. Sonic Mew | talk to me 19:49, August 13, 2005 (UTC)


 * Seriously, even Jynx fans wouldn't buy Jynx stuff. I'm actually not joking... Only obsess Pokemon COLLECTORS would be bothered. (why am I replying an ancient question?...anyway) jynx 21:16, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
 * Jynx figurines were actually released around 2000 with the other 151 Pokemon at the time. If you search on [Ebay] you will see they are black-skinned and not purple-skinned. Which means they were available prior to the Jynx controversy. Which makes one wonder if they're rare now. -24.92.41.95 19:22, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

I beg to differ, jynx. I would most certainly buy Jynx stuff if I saw it. Leastwise, I would buy merchandise with the original, black-skinned Jynx. I could really care less about anything with the new purple design, if only because I am still annoyed about the controversy. –– Czar Baldy Bald IV 16:01, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

Jynx figurines (the original version) are still available in the USA, however, only online. The Japanese pack including the original Jynx and Mr. Mime is sold all over the internet, and the solo pack that Tomy makes of the original Jynx is still available online. Granted, both version are Japanese, they're still sold in the America's. In fact, I got the original Jynx from the solo Tomy packs a few weeks ago. I'm just starting to collect the Tomy ones now. I'd like to know where to buy them instead of wasting all that money on shipping. :p - Yoshirox10

Fairness of tone
The section titled "Controversy", particularly the first paragraph, radiates a completely dismissive tone to the notion of Jynx being blackface inspired. It's practically hostile towards it- "Having black skin does not show any significance in changing the skin color at all because if Mr Mime has a white color and is not censored, why should jinx? This censorship would be the true idea of racism because the mere color of black is attributed the the African race - which is not a fair thing at all." The facts are presented fairly evenly, but it emanates a feeling that Wikipedia does not have any respect at all for any possible disagreement with its preferred stance. Daft Neophyte 23:01, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
 * I removed that entire sentence, it is someone's opinion and not appropriate for an article to begin with. Tamajared 20:29, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Why redirect
Why has this article been turned into a redirect to a short entry in another article? I don't see any AfD notice or prior discussion. ·:· Will Beback ·:· 19:49, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
 * The Pokemon project has decided to merge all but a couple of the 493 individual articles into twenty five lists. This article is one of the ones that has been merged. TTN 19:56, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Where was the content from this article merged? It's not in the list. ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 20:32, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


 * That is really the only relevant information (the racism point may be added if correctly sourced). For fan information, see Bulbapedia. TTN 20:52, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


 * It appears as well-sourced as the rest of the Pokemon material. I'll move the controversy material to the list article. If there are sourcing questions we can address them here or there. ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 21:04, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

Jynx (Pokémon) -> Jynx

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the move request was what Kung Fu Man said. &mdash;harej (talk) (cool!) 00:28, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Jynx (Pokémon) → Jynx &mdash;
 * Suggesting this move because the disambig page only mentions the genus, which is for Wryneck, and a see also for Jinx (disambiguation). It seems we could easily have the page moved to that disambig space and just have a "Not to be confused with Jinx" at the top of the article. Any objections?--Kung Fu Man (talk) 02:07, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Sounds good.  Artichoker [ talk ] 02:08, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
 * But is the Pokemon a dominant meaning over the species of bird? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 20:39, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
 * If the species article was actively called Jynx I would say no, but the article itself is Wryneck. Going with a google test:
 * Jynx+genus = 6,410
 * Jynx+bird = 44,000
 * Jynx+Pokemon = 76,700
 * And checking article stats for June 2009:
 * Jynx (genus) = 117
 * Wryneck = 1399
 * Jynx (Pokémon) = 3926
 * And that's considering that Jynx was not an article again until the middle of June, so as these numbers show the Pokemon is the most common item in relation to the term Jynx both on Google and on Wikipeida. Would "For the species of bird, see Wryneck" at the top of the article be satisfactory compromise?--Kung Fu Man (talk) 21:07, 23 July 2009 (UTC)


 * Support. The dab page is not needed in this case; a hatnote to wryneck (and possibly jinx) is sufficient. (Although every time I've argued that lately, someone has started to add stuff on the dab page to make it necessary.) Anyway, based on the statistics looks like that this page is primary topic anyway. Jafeluv (talk) 22:55, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
 * Support. It looks like it wont effect anything too harshly. --Blake (talk) 21:20, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
 * So long as we have something akin to For the magical curse, see Jinx; for the bird, see Wryneck I will support. Otheruses is a wonderful friend. MelicansMatkin (talk, contributions) 01:38, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

History-merge?

 * As I said on WP:POKE/Charizard's talk page, I would be fine with deleting the page, but is there any way this page's history can be move to the real Jynx article? Maybe move this page to Jynx, and then revert to the recent revision? I dont know if that would work or not. Blake (Talk·Edits) 22:18, 31 August 2009 (UTC)

I feel like I have failed this article
The only thing standing in its way from B-class and possibly GA, is the manga. I dont know what to reference though. It doesnt say "Jynx did this", but instead it says "Jynx can do this". I might have to re-read that part where Jynx appears to figure out what chapter to reference. Blake (Talk·Edits) 00:11, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

Redirect Smoochum to here?
I think we should cover Smoochum here as a form of Jynx, and redirect it here as opposed to the list (this could be done with other articles, such as Pichu/Raichu, Riolu, Charmander/Charmeleon, Mime Jr., and Igglybuff/Wigglytuff). - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 06:41, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
 * I considered that with Mime Jr., but backed off it, especially since Mime Jr. was only a "baby" of it under certain circumstances. With Koffing/Weezing and Abra/Kadabra/Alakazam the reception spanned all characters for the most part; here it's isolated to each particular version (and in the case of Pichu, it has its own reception unique from Pikachu, as does Raichi. Same for the rest when you examine them). Mentioning them with a "see also" should be fine, anything more would come across as undue weight.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 11:31, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

Why is Ji(y)nx purple instead of the original black?
Whoever got the idea of making Ji(y)nx purple has no design skills at all.

Ji(y)nx looks better black.

And why are episodes featuring Ji(y)nx being banned? There was absolutely no need for most of the episodes that were banned to be banned. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fifteen501 (talk • contribs) 21:55, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Silly people thought Jynx being black was racist, so they changed it. The episodes featuring the black design no longer aired. But Wikipedia isn't the place to rant about that. Blake (Talk·Edits) 23:21, 6 May 2010 (UTC)

Ganguro

 * moved from article

Shouldn't there be a reference of some sort to Ganguro, which was at its most popular (in Japan) when the pokemon games were created? If you type Ganguro into google and look at the images as they pop up, the first one looks almost exactly like Jynx. Given that Japan is 99% Japanese, it seems odd that they'd even be aware of archaic american stereotypes, while Ganguro was huge around the time the game came out (and is still around today). This seems a glaring omission, considering how I found got this idea from Bulbapedia, which is not supposed to be more accurate and cognitive of the facts than the original wikipedia. Why do you have to find this alternative and seemingly more likely theory elsewhere? I don't know how to go about adding this, but I feel it needs to be done. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.108.28.141 (talk • contribs)
 * If you can find a reliable source that verifies this, please add it to the article. Melicans (talk, contributions) 14:44, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
 * Ms Carole Boston Weatherford did not provide any reliable source to back up her speculations either, yet her OPINION is reflected in the article - only because she got her point of view published. Other perceptions of this pokemon (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Jynx_%28Pok%C3%A9mon%29#Controversy) aren't mentioned at all! How is that a neutral position? To be clear here: bulbapedia is world-renown knowledge center regarding all facts about pokemon and Carole Boston Weatherford is a children book writer with no education in Japan culture. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.88.5.60 (talk) 07:01, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Bulbapedia has different rules then Wikipedia. On Wikipedia facts need to be verified by reliable sources. If no reliable sources say Jynx is based off Ganguro, then it doesn't belong in the article. There is no way to get around it. Blake (Talk·Edits) 19:04, 30 October 2010 (UTC)

What about Yama-uba
I heard recently that Jynx might be related to the mythological beast Yama-uba, the mountain Crone. It's not just bulbapedia. A youtube video by Matthew Patrick, titled "Game Theory: Pokemon Racism, Jynx Justified" also confirms this.


 * More over Hild and her daughter Urd in Oh My Goddess! are both dark skinned and being from 1988 predate Jynx by several years so the old defense that Jynx was based on Hild of Norse mythology may also be valid.--67.42.65.212 (talk) 11:28, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Possible new Evolution
Just saw on Tumblr somebody took a picture from a Japanese magazine that shows Jynx, Smoochum, and arrows pointing from them in their evolutionary line, and then it points to a new evolution, a more female-humanoid looking Pokemon. I can't confirm if it's legit but I just saw that. --Matt723star (talk) 16:19, 26 March 2013 (UTC) Edit: here's the URL to the picture I found it on: --Matt723star (talk) 16:22, 26 March 2013 (UTC)

Doesn't look like an official source, which would surely make the Pokemon look more prominent in the 3D images. Admittedly, it's nowhere near as bad a hoax as the supposed starter designs from Gen V. Such horrible Japanese!128.195.166.25 (talk) 20:35, 23 May 2013 (UTC)

Because the Japanese would of course know an obscure symbol of white-on-black racism from a century back on the other end of the planet?
...NOT. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.231.213.30 (talk) 05:28, 14 June 2015 (UTC)

News headline: undereducated white man attempts to casually dismiss racism, but accidentally implies that Japanese people are stupid and uneducated about historical stereotypes like he is. 68.33.78.75 (talk) 15:26, 1 January 2020 (UTC)