Talk:Königrufen

Untitled
This game is well suited for those who like to tinker with rules. This characteristic makes it a great match for Wikipedia.LOL I've started the stub right now. For now I'm using the German wiki article as an outline. There is much work to be done here.Smiloid 03:51, 30 August 2006 (UTC)

Tarot Family of card games
I support an introductory page with all of the tarot family of card games listed. Ideally this should be under tarot, but there you run into the conflict with the occultists. The name in the English language for the family of card games is Tarot, and since this is the English version of Wikipedia, the term in English should be the prefered one. In other languages it is Tarock, Taraut, Tarocco (Tarocchi), etc. They are all related trick-taking card games with a common origin. That is why they are all included in Michael Dummett's book The Game of Tarot. They do not use identical cards of course. That is because of divergences in playing card fashions and suit signs in each region. In german speaking areas of Switzerland, they use the 1JJ Tarot pack with Italian suit signs. In Sicily, they use the unique Tarocco Siciliano pack. There are also Tarocco Piedmontese, Tarocco Bolognese, and other packs from Milan, etc. There are at least three distinct versions of the Austrian-style Tarock pack. Then there are the French tarot versions with the arabic numerals on the top. These are all tarot playing cards, and are used to play related games. The question is, why are Tarock and Tarocchi on the same page, while French Tarot is on another? Tarock and French Tarot have french suit symbols, while Tarocco uses Italian suit signs. There should be one introductory article for the family of tarot games (similar to the presentation in the Tarocchi article), then individual main articles on each regional variation (with cards used, style of play, regional variations, etc.). This is what is done with other cards games such as Rummy, where there are many variations and regional games. Most of the Rummy family of games are listed in a special section of the article. I think that Tarot (game) should be the general page, and perhaps a special page created for "French Tarot", Tarocco (Tarrochi), Troccas (Swiss), Austrian-style Tarock, and Minchiate. The problem with all this evidently arises due to the unique situation of one family of card games having varying playing card standards in various regions. -- Parsa 22:03, 17 December 2006 (UTC)


 * If you want to classify Tarock/Tarot games into two groups, I think the best way to split them is not by whether the cards use French or Italian suit symbols, but by the way the fool/excuse/skíz is played. In the French and Danish games, it is used as an "excuse" for not following suit - a player plays it instead of playing a card of the suit led (or a tarock, if void in the suit led). In the German and Italian games, and the games from what were once Habsburg territories, it is simply the highest tarock, as if it had XXII written on it. Maproom (talk) 20:35, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

Name
Who calls this game Königrufen? I know it by the name of Königsrufen (with an s). If the former (no s) is more common, I might just add a comment. Anyone Austrian here care to give a definitive answer? Adam1729 08:46, 19 May 2007 (UTC)


 * "Königsrufen" yields 90 entries on Google, while "Königrufen" yields over 9,000. Both are correct names. Königrufen (no s) is also the title of the German Wikipedia article which I've partly used as a sourceSmiloid 07:05, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion
The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion: Participate in the deletion discussion at the. —Community Tech bot (talk) 08:16, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Galiz20.gif