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Yak-130 look-alike
The T-50 looks suspiciously like the Yak-130/Aermacchi M-346, down to the tiniest details Santamoly (talk) 06:24, 16 September 2016 (UTC)


 * Except for the very tiny detail of the T-50 being powered by one more powerful engine, and having the tailpipe in the rear, with afterburner, instead of twin exhausts behind the wings. Honestly, no. It doesn't really look like an F-20 either. - BilCat (talk) 08:12, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Totally different aerodynamics; therefore, T-50 is supersonic capable. It also has a digital FBW system based on Korean developed RTOS( by an established RTOS company in Korea).This is the largest difference from the Yak-130 which does not have such systems. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noob2013 (talk • contribs) 03:33, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
 * no I think you are wrong, that is another type of aircraft.--Bolzanobozen (talk) 14:22, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

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T-5 Brave Eagle vs XAT-5 Blue Magpie
The T-5 Brave Eagle page makes no mention of a rename to Blue Magpie, so I reverted the dubious edit by the IPv6 address. When reverted that, he claimed the aircraft had been renamed and the article had a new name, the latter statement is definitely false, and the article itself makes no mention of a rename to Magpie. When I added Dubious and Citation Needed it was reverted along with a personal attack by. How could there possibly not be a citation needed for this claim? Shouldn’t someone fix, with citations, the T-5 Brave Eagle page before messing with uncited claims about it in this one? Dogshu (talk) 15:56, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Buddy you are either seriously confused or being willfully obtuse... See AIDC T-5 Brave Eagle. Your claim of personal attack is also facetious, no such attack was made. Horse Eye Jack (talk) 16:04, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
 * More personal attacks, so any argument about the edit history is irrelevant. Your link says “On 24 September 2019, Tsai Ing-wen officially named the new aircraft as "Brave Eagle" during first prototype aircraft roll-out ceremony.[6]”.  Sounds pretty recent right?  Where’s your citation for the rename back to Blue Magpie in the last 6 days?  The rename was TO Brave Eagle, not FROM Brave Eagle. Dogshu (talk) 16:26, 30 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Yes, the rename was TO Brave Eagle, not FROM Brave Eagle. Which is exactly what the IP changed in the diff here. I think you owe the IP a big apology. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 23:15, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

It is not really that important to list the name for the XAT-5/T-5 in this T-50 article anyway. -Fnlayson (talk) 17:42, 30 September 2019 (UTC)


 * Yep. But you two kept renaming it Blue Magpie (which is wrong), started raving about policies (which I am aware of), nevermind the personal attacks (which probably violate policy), and the fact that you’re just trying to save face at this point.  Thanks for the intervention .  If you want to argue about what the AIDC T-5 Brave Eagle is named, take it over to that page. Dogshu (talk) 00:57, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Both Bilcat and I have told you exactly how you are mistaken, Bilcat is right too... You do owe the IP an apology. I genuinely don’t think you understand what a personal attack is. I note that you have yet to address your misleading edit summaries, I reproduce it here for your ease of viewing: "um, no there’s not a new article title. It links to Brave Eagle, which makes no reference to Magpie at all. Why are you claiming the inverse? Bring it to the talk page, or write an article about the Blue Magpie yourself.” At the very least you are completely incorrect that the page AIDC T-5 Brave Eagle "makes no reference to Magpie at all” which you just blew by in your rush to make a nonsensical point about a rename back to Blue Magpie? Can you maybe explain yourself? Horse Eye Jack (talk) 08:25, 1 October 2019 (UTC)

FA-50 vs. F/A-50
FA-50 appears to be a widely repeated typo for F/A-50. Is there a type certificate or some other official document that can confirm the designation of this variant? - ZLEA T\C 20:09, 22 June 2020 (UTC)


 * The manufacturer, Korea Aerospace Industries lists it as FA-50 (light attack aircraft) on its web site here currently. -Fnlayson (talk) 20:37, 22 June 2020 (UTC)

Possible sales: Ireland
This section is pure speculation and the reference is to a speculative posting on a discussion board about a presumed need. Removed. 78.17.198.80 (talk) 17:50, 30 April 2022 (UTC)

Odd assertion in 2nd sentence of 2nd para...
What does "The F-50 single-seat multirole fighter variant was considered." mean, please? Thanks CharlesSpencer (talk) 09:15, 19 May 2022 (UTC)


 * It is supposed to mean that KAI had studied a single-seat variant in the past. -Fnlayson (talk) 15:15, 19 May 2022 (UTC)

Transition to FA-50
Perhaps this article should transition to being primarily about the FA-50 with the T-50 mentioned rather than the opposite, inasmuch as Poland is now purchasing FA-50's to replace Mig-29's (in part, along with F-35's) it is donating to Ukraine? https://wapo.st/3lkWeFa People are going to start searching for FA-50 more frequently than T-50, I expect. Ealtram (talk) 18:29, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
 * The FA-50 is a variant of the T-50, not the other way around. The type was originally designed to be a trainer, only later being considered for a combat role.  Besides, a temporary surge in interest in a specific variant is not a good reason to change the scope of the article to said variant. -  ZLEA  T \ C 00:09, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
 * In any case the article should be updated with the f50 sales to Poland. Aitorbk (talk) 11:30, 8 November 2023 (UTC)

Fighting Eagle
This name is mentioned in one caption and one source, but not in the body. It seems associated with FA-50 variant? How official is it? Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 03:19, 19 April 2023 (UTC)