Talk:KEO

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Whoever wrote this page needs some coherency practice.

--68.112.75.210 (talk) 16:25, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Be nice, or at least specific in your criticism. KenFehling (talk) 08:07, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

I've suggested to the organizers of the Keo project that they might use Wikipedia as the "Contemporary library of Alexandria" that will be carried on board of Keo.

(Things still missing -please help:

-add a photo of Keo, available on Keo's page; -look for controversy surrounding this project, in order to get a balanced point of view)

--Jose I. Icaza 06 Jan 2004.

Answer from Keo's organizers: Apparently they didn't know about Wikipedia and showed much interest in it. After exchanging a few emails, they answered that they have a committee selecting what information to include from several sources, in view of the limited space on the satellite, and that "We will propose Wikipedia to be considered. We can either propose it whole, or we can as well give a certain volume of it into the consideration. If you have in mind any particularly important articles to present, don't hesitate to contact us." I didn't answer back this last email dated 21 January 2004

--Jose I. Icaza 15 nov 2004.
 * Thank you for your reply Jose, I'll get in touch with them about their final selections. =) --Andylkl 16:47, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Well, what became of your inquiries? Mr. Billion 22:52, 21 May 2005 (UTC)

Ariane 5
What do you mean by "contingent upon the successful completion of the Ariane 5 rocket." ???Hektor 05:59, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I've removed it. Dantesoft (talk) 08:16, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Other forms of media storage (and why not include a media player in capsule)?
Should they consider harddrives; or blu-ray discs, or even hologram -memory? And did they include a dvd player with the capsule; so other earthlings in the future won't necessarilly have to build one?
 * Blu-ray?!?
 * ...idiot.
 * Yes that is a good idea... That way they could even reverse engeener DVD-player if they wouldn't understand instructions. On top of all some data, etc. could be buried somewhere in the Earht and KEO would carry the map. sverde1 09:24, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes that is a good idea... That way they could even reverse engeener DVD-player if they wouldn't understand instructions. On top of all some data, etc. could be buried somewhere in the Earht and KEO would carry the map. sverde1 09:24, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

Well if 50000 years from now the scientists can't build a simple DVD player, then we should truly be happy to be living in this age. Hard Drives are magnetic and prone to shocks so they are not the best candidates to carry time capsule messages. Besides, they are probably even harder to interface with than a DVD player. Blu-ray, HDDVD and Hologram Memory are all unproven technologies as of yet. I think they wen't with the right choice but maybe including a backup NAND memory device built to resist radiation won't be such a bad idea. Payam81 (talk) 04:16, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
 * It’s 2021, and if you want to buy a brand-new MacBook today directly from Apple, it won’t have a disc drive in it. Why can’t they just use some sort of HD-Rosetta-type device with the text on it in itty-bitty writing, and maybe a small magnifying lens of sorts? This whole idea is stupid, and I pray to God that this satellite will never be launched from orbit. EpixAndroid (talk) 21:34, 16 March 2021 (UTC)

The Wayback Machine + Wikipedia + The Internet Archive
Similar to that one major library (not sure what it's called); the KEO capsule can retain a current copy of all of the above 3 projects; not only is there Wikipedia; but the whole archive of the internet. Can someone suggest this??

Also, maybe they could make it so that they could send constant updates (annual updates) of the newest Internet Archive/Wayback Machine to KEO via satellite; so it's constantly being updated, even 50k years from now. Or at the very least; have some way of transfering information back and forth between KEO and earth. Anyone know how to contact KEO about these ideas?
 * IA is probably too large, even for their ample storage space. And constant updates are impossible, and undesirable really -- if humanity is struck by some devastating computer virus in the future, as we surely will be at some point in time, we won't want to transmit that. --130.85.43.2 (talk) 11:28, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

50,000 years!!
Who will be alive? and will civilization still exist?--Bumba claat 21:01, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
 * I would like to believe so, but frankly I don't think we'll still be around by then. Vitriol 23:04, 8 November 2006 (UTC)

Who's wacky idea was this? This is a horrible use of taxpayer dollars. Gimme a break. Stupid UN.
 * Seems like a much better use of "taxpayer dollars" than spending it on military crap. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 143.252.80.100 (talk) 20:58, 14 March 2007 (UTC).

If it is a passive system with no propulsion or communication, then why does the picture show it with solar cells? Answer: the "wings" are of a symbolic nature.LutherVinci (talk) 16:51, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Actually, the wings are there to reflect light and attract the attention of nearby observers in o9rder to draw them near and open the capsule, if that makes any sense. LutherVinci (talk) 16:51, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Who's blood?
Does anyone know who's drop of blood will be in the diamond? Woo tangent 01:52, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
 * Interestingly, mine. I didn't volunteer or anything -- I was just perambulating the city streets, and a guy jumped out from an alley and jabbed my in the neck with a syringe.  "It's for KEO!" he shouted as he ran off.  I didn't understand at the time, but it makes sense now.  Anyways, guess I'll get to be cloned in 50,000 years, and you fools will all be dead! --130.85.43.2 (talk) 11:24, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
 * I've added the reference from May 2003 that confirms the blood donor will be "chosen at random from among the different human groups, to symbolize our common genetic human signature" Dantesoft (talk) 14:25, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

And how do you get blood _into_ a diamond? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.243.60.12 (talk) 00:08, 4 February 2008 (UTC)

Panspermia?
Does this have ANYTHING to do with this article in the slightest? I vote for this bit to be deleted. 80.192.40.63 (talk) 01:17, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm really confused
As noted on a revision on December 5, 2007 of this article, there said the capsule was going to be launched by 2010. It says that currently on some other Wikipedias and December 31, 2008 being the deadline to write a message. However, the current revision reads it was launched in 2006 and the deadline was December 31, 2006. How is it possible I entered to KEO official website on early 2008 and there it read the deadline did be December 31, 2008. Who's right then? KEO.org or Wikipedia, because the KEO site is now down.--Fluence (talk) 03:01, 7 July 2008 (UTC)


 * The KEO website (the clickable one in this article) says that they will stop collecting messages sometime in 2006. Unfortunately, I didn't read that part and spent two hours writing a 4 page long message because of the statement "will stop collecting on Dec 31/2008" in the article. I'm extremly confused as you are right now. 23:25, 4 September 2008 (UTC)KyungSoon Han


 * I've put a link to the official deadline page (last changed on 7 January 2008, set to 2010/2011). The "description" meta tag for the official page remains set to 2006 Dantesoft (talk) 08:20, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

Paying for launch
Is anyone paying for the launch? Ariane 5s are not free. --Apoc2400 (talk) 12:14, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

name
How in the world did they get "e" and "o" as among the most common sounds? Not only is "a" more frequent or much more frequent in nearly every language which has "e" and "o", but many languages (Arabic, Malay, Quechua, etc.) don't have them at all. At least they got the "k" right. kwami (talk) 20:48, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

Maybe they should include a copy of Duke Nukem Forever, they've both been in development for the same length of time.

216.135.32.188 (talk) 23:14, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

POTTURU UMAPATHI NAIDU P UMAPATHI NAIDU (talk) 11:24, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

sorry
sorry, I accidentally removed part of the article... can this be repared? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.150.172.169 (talk) 17:01, 21 November 2008 (UTC)

http://www.keo.org/
THe website for the keo project doesn't seem to be working anymore, and I can't find one that does. Is this project still active? If not, the wikipedia page should be updated. - AJseagull1 (talk) 21:44, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

Actually, the website is up, running, and awaiting new messages (apparently the deadline has been moved) by this link > KEO website --Nate5713 (talk) 00:08, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

After visiting the website I decided not to bother entering my message. It seems like a total scam. In 2013 for a website to look this terribly designed, this disgraceful is perhaps a clue that it's a scam of sorts. For example, most common sense logic would put the word "English" for a selection of language and not insist on country of UK, etc. The main page is ugly and has 3 unlabeled image links. The form for filling out the message lacks any styling, it all looks like a 90s web page recovered from the Internet archives hosted on a hacked server, rather than a SERIOUS project for humanity... Can anyone comment on why this lack of "professionalism" that can be achieved with 10 minutes of basic and accessible CSS styling? :( 12:05, 26 February 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.117.37.49 (talk)

Totally agree. Webpage's looks kind of confirm the project is dead (I would guess it was alive once).Raymondism (talk) 21:39, 29 December 2014 (UTC)

Of note he has, or had, a personal website - unfortunately it's one of those late-1990s Flash websites, basically just a holding page with a large Flash animation. Its Google-hostile nature might explain why it isn't mentioned in this article or his own personal page. The website has quite a lot of resume padding and doesn't convincingly answer the question of how a man who earned a degree in geophysics in the 1960s, and who then had a hobby as a painter, was going to develop a space capsule. -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 20:15, 20 July 2017 (UTC)

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JMP Merger
Jean-Marc Philippe is not notable enough for his own article. Thus his article being merged into here (all 3 sentences of his page). ElectroChip123 (talk) 01:43, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

Proposing merging a defunct art work / project into the page of its creator; the work itself helps to establish the notability of the artist, but may not be sufficient for a stand-alone article. Klbrain (talk) 10:50, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Support conversely: This information is better used on the KEO page, as KEO is not actually dead yet. ElectroChip123 (talk) 01:53, 6 March 2019 (UTC)

When exactly was the *original* launch date? 2001 or 2010+?
Apparently the artist "died 12 November 2008" and "After his death, messages began to be collected, and an initial launch date was set for 2001" (??), while other parts of the article say it "was to have been launched in 2003", but the "contribution deadline was originally 31 December 2009". An article from May 2003 says that KEO "will be launched at the end of the year 2005", with messages collected until the end of 2003. Patallurgist (talk) 18:55, 29 April 2020 (UTC)