Talk:KFC/Archive 5

Guatemala KFC
Just for anyone who can edit the article, kfc haas been operating in guatemala for years and Guatemala is not in the list of countries i saw in the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.119.179.234 (talk) 21:02, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

German Chillie Cheese Fries
German chillie cheese fries,New link(Number36 doesent work): http://www.kfc.de/beilagen/chili-cheese-pommes-frites —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.200.127.84 (talk) 19:11, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

"Outside North America KFC offers beef products like kebabs"
This sentence from the header is not entirely accurate. In Poland KFC offers only Chicken related product, no beef. Beef products are left to McDonald's & Burger King. KFC does not compete so directly. As far as I'm aware this is the situation in most of Europe. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.254.53.235 (talk) 14:56, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Chinese name
Please correct the Chinese romanization: it's zhá jī, not zhà jī. 82.88.243.147 (talk) 22:16, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Hold on a sec: I asked several well-educated, Standard Mandarin-speaking co-workers here in Taipei how to pronounce the word for "deep fry", and they all agreed unequivocally: "fourth tone" (zhà). 61.217.210.251 (talk) 09:05, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

Who cares about what a bunch of brown people think —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.80.230.52 (talk) 17:20, 10 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Who cares what someone who does not know what Chinese romanization is (that is, putting Chinese alphabet into English in a standard way) when after all it is only done by two anonymous editors who have asked around, may disagree, perhaps it is pronounced differently in different places, I don't know as I am half a world away though I know Chinese is tonal and makes a huge difference to what words mean depending on how one goes up or down on a vowel sound. I care quite a lot that anonymous IPs are not insulted by anyone else here. And they aren't brown, they're yellow! Any fule kno that. Si Trew (talk) 00:35, 2 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Well, I'm going to insult one: 209.80.230.52, I care more what these 'brown people' think than I do you, you racist scum. BTW, nice use of St Custard's vernacular, Si, took me back years.  Pollythewasp (talk) 12:57, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

The Bucket, and more on Microwaves
According to the article the bucket was the idea of Dave Thomas. KFC's first franchisee Leon "Pete" Harman also sold chicken in buckets in the very early days of the chain and in the book Secret Recipe it is claimed that he was the originator of the idea. Any verification either way would be great. (Perhaps both developed the idea indepently?)

KFC does use microwave ovens in its cooking various products in the US, some examples of which are Baked Beans, reheating of dipping sauces for wings, Mac & Cheese, and Corn. It is worth noting that some locations do bake the Mac & Cheese, and many older stores cook corn on the cob in a specific piece of equipment.

Add Mozambique to the List
There are at least 3 KFC outlets in Maputo, Mozambique. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.96.25.114 (talk) 08:33, 8 September 2009 (UTC)

Has anybody
Has anybody gone as far to do based on what it is? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.80.230.52 (talk) 17:18, 10 November 2009 (UTC)

GUATEMALA?!??!?!?!
Wher is Guatemala? KFC recently opened it's first restaurant in 30 years in Guatemala! This article needs to be updated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.148.228.210 (talk) 02:25, 15 November 2009 (UTC)


 * It's here: Guatemala. You can update it. Si Trew (talk) 21:36, 6 December 2009 (UTC)


 * [Deleted text], people. Has this still not been resolved yet?? I’m sure none of the top 10 results found googling `kfc guatemala' are reliable. —Wiki Wikardo 04:37, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

Fried Chicken
Because fried chicken is the specialty of the chain, I think of picture of it sould be added to article. 202.69.189.215 (talk) 13:59, 6 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Add one then.


 * Anyway, I have always suspected the corporation changed its name to KFC specifically to drop the heavy link with fried chicken, especially the "fried" bit. Si Trew (talk) 21:35, 6 December 2009 (UTC)


 * It appears that KFC is focusing its marketing efforts on promoting grilled chicken both in the near future and distant future. So you guys should keep that in mind. Also, related to that, KFC franchises are suing te company over this recent shift. Do you guys think I should add this to the criticism section? Rosestiles (talk) 16:16, 13 January 2010 (UTC)Rosestiles


 * A good idea, if we can find RS on it (newspaper articles for example). Si Trew (talk) 12:39, 14 January 2010 (UTC)

KFC Nigeria?
This forum topic seems to have pictures of a KFC in Lagos (Scroll down). --Kanzler31 (talk) 03:40, 25 December 2009 (UTC)

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Photo gallery
I believe the photo gallery showing KFC outlets in certain parts of the world should be added back to the article. It provides a better illustration on how big KFC is. If you look in other encyclopedias and check in articles about cathedrals or some of the wonders of the world, you would often see sets of images featuring examples on what that particular article is about. 121.58.216.46 (talk) 00:22, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
 * What kind of illustration is that exactly? The fact that fast food chains have different stores all over the world isn't remotely unique to KFC. If you read the policy you'll see specific examples of acceptable galleries that do that. This is simply a list of images that random users have been adding to over time and exactly the kind of thing this policy says can't be in the article. If you want to set up a list of criteria that you think needs to be illustrated to explain the subject better, then propose images and discuss their appropriateness and then craft a proper gallery with captions that explain what is being detailed and how you might be able to make a case for a gallery. But random user images, regardless of how its labeled runs afoul of this policy.--Crossmr (talk) 12:36, 15 January 2010 (UTC)

nepal..
nepal also has outlet of kfc....so please add nepal to the list


 * Please quote sources, locations, etc. Si Trew (talk) 00:28, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Racism?
It boggles the mind that the KFC ad of an Australian cricket fan surrounded by West Indies cricket fans would be seen as racism. It appears that the numerous comments by outraged Australians on the Huffington post would confirm this. Should this be noted? - Tbsdy (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 20:06, 21 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes it should. Currently the section is biased because it only shows the American view and interpretation of the ad. It fails to mention the fact that the intended interpretation, and that understood everywhere outside the USA (including the West Indies) is not that he was giving chicken to black people to shut them up.  It was to make peace with supporters of an opposing team.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.101.143.74 (talk) 10:26, 28 January 2010 (UTC)


 * Hopefully this should now be corrected after I added some material. - Tbsdy (formerly Ta bu shi da yu) talk 14:38, 2 February 2010 (UTC)


 * If the advertisement had been shown during the coming Ashes Test match series between the England Cricket Team and the Australian Cricket Team during the 2010-2011 cricket season, then the cricket fan would have been offering the Kentucky Fried Chicken to English cricket fans (and the ad presumably would not, then, have been deemed racist). Figaro (talk) 17:29, 3 February 2010 (UTC)


 * An Australian offering an American product to me (English) I would regard as offensive. I'll have some decent Oz grub, please. Si Trew (talk) 00:27, 2 April 2010 (UTC)


 * As an Australian, I can say that decent Australian food is even rarer than decent English food. You have your choice between pastry stuffed with gristle-laden gravy or white bread smeared with yeast extract. But anyway, what I really came to say is that the "keep them quiet" line is somewhat misleading. He's smoothing over the awkward situation of being amongst supporters of the opposing team, just like he says, not trying to shut them up. If there is strong resistance to representing his intentions in their proper light, the sentence should at least end with the fact that he gave them chicken without providing any assumptions as to the motive behind this act. Wikipedia does purport to be neutral, after all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.107.81.33 (talk) 10:11, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

I'm not sure why you'd be offended SimonTrew, I know for a fact that KFC is quite prevelant in England. The flavour is slightly different in Australia, probably due to the different diet of the chicken. Don't be put off though. There is good food in Australia - perhaps something like Jesters Pies may suit you. We also have "barbecued" chicken (spit roasted to you) or oven rosted as an alternative to fried chicken for fast food. Apart from that (and meat pies), there is nothing that is specifically "Aussie" more "fusion" cooking, or Australian slants on regular food.

On the subject of the "controversy", I came across that by accident on YouTube, and was struck firstly by the stupidity of the female presenter in referring to an obviously West Indian crowd as "African Americans", and secondly by their assumption that every facet of American stereotyping is known across the world. Odd for a group who claim to be against prejudicial stereotyping and cultural projection! However it was their "response" which made me quite angry. I can get that an American, who knows nothing about West Indian Cricket crowds, Australian-West Indian cricket rivalry, and views the rest of the world as future states of the good'ol US of A, may think that the ad is a "civilised" white man "calming down" a group of "unruly" black people by feeding them chicken. Never having watched a real cricket match, I guess they can't know that West Indian crowds break out the steel drums and have a carnival like atmosphere - passionate but not unruly. They may also not imagine that people outside the USA may not even be aware that “blacks” are supposed to be eaters of fried chicken, any more than anyone else is. Frankly I hadn’t even heard of that stereotype until I saw that YouTube pod, and don't ever remember seeing it referred to in ANY American film or TV show I've seen. But in their response, they didn’t stop and think that, yes, perhaps they were actually pushing their own cultural assumptions onto others – a form of “cultural imperialism” they’re supposedly against, nor did the female own up to the fact the crowd was West Indian not “Afro-American”. Worse still, they only selected part of the quote from KFC Australia to make it seem that they weren’t going to broadcast the ad in the US because they “knew” it would be seen as racist there – the actual quote said because the Americans wouldn’t understand the cricket context (and obviously they don’t). That is downright dishonest, and almost slanderous, whereas the first comment was merely ignorant and patronising. Why would an ad for the Australian operation be aimed at an American audience anyway? Perhaps we should go around screaming “racist, racist, racist” if the Yanks run an ad with a Native American, or someone with a dark complexion, walking for miles with an empty petrol can just to get some special high octane “gasoline” as it reinforces the stereotype of aboriginals as petrol sniffers! I mean, they Yanks MUST know about that, and even if they don’t, they should be more sensitive! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.39.162.130 (talk) 14:00, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

Rosktiks Redirect?
WTF? Why does Rostiks redirect to this KFC page? It has nothing to do with it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.127.100.147 (talk) 19:44, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Wages (esp. New Zealand)
Current minimum new entrant rate of pay (aka youth rates) are $10, but this is only payable to employees under the age of 18 who have been in the work force for less than 200 hours or 3 months. After that, they get bumped to the minimum adult pay rate of NZD12.50. If these employees are only getting 10.60, it is perfectly legal and is only for a short period, perhaps this section needs to be reviewed as it may no longer reflect the current state of affairs. More info http://www.ers.govt.nz/pay/minimum.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.234.116.147 (talk) 19:52, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

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First Krushbar
I would like to correct the statement that the first Krushbar was not opened at Rockingham Shopping Centre in Perth. I work at KFC in Bundoora Victoria and we renovated our entire store from the 4th of October 2008 till the 1st of December 2008 to compliment the new addition of the Krushbar. We were the first store in our area and I'm assuming in the state or even country that opened Krushbar. We are one of very few stores that actually have an entire added area of our store just for the Krushbar whereas most stores have had to make space on existing benches etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.217.149.161 (talk) 10:41, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I would like to see this changed. I don't know when or where the first Krushbar was opened, but I do know that Ballarat had a Krushbar well before September 2009 (at an estimate I'd say it was there In January 2009, but I can't remember exactly when I first saw it).Ahri22 (talk) 09:43, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Also, Krushers are now available in the UK. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.220.62.223 (talk) 19:44, 21 March 2010 (UTC)


 * I've just removed the statement about the first Krushbar being in Perth. I also was going to query this statement, as a local KFC has had a Krushbar since March 2009. Seeing I would have been the third person to query this, I've removed the statement (per WP:VER, which states that if a statement is challanged, it must be sourced, which I will look for) temporarily (at least). -- sk8er5000 yeah? 21:38, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

KFC is already also in Mozambique
KFC is already also in Mozambique
 * Please provide a reliable source for verification. Thanks,  fetch  comms  ☛ 21:57, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Ugh. Things I hate: The tag People too lazy to look anything up themselves  which I found in about 2 seconds by googling `kfc moçambique' and `kfc maputo'… Of course, none of these sources are “reliable”… Nor is this *sigh* —It’s all a big conspiracy to put KFC franchises where they’re not 04:37, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

"Kiwi For Chicken"
It should be noted here that for a time in the early-mid 2000s(?) in New Zealand, KFC's slogan was "Kiwi For Chicken". I'm not sure when, but it has since been changed to just KFC. Edaemus (talk) 01:47, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

KGC, Kentucky Grilled CHicken
Should be added to the article. --Rajah (talk) 02:18, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

Kitchen Fresh Chicken?
Why is there no information on this page about KFC changing it's name from Kentucky Fried Chicken to Kitchen Fresh Chicken? I was looking for information on when the name was changed and when they changed it back, but there's no mention of KFC ever changing the name on the wiki page. However, this KFC commercial is proof that they did change it at some point: http://videosostav.ru/video/edcb310984b13190db914c635821d5b0/ --Wck619 (talk) 02:32, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
 * A commercial does not mean that the company has changed its name. Since that is all you've been able to find, it is more likely that Kitchen Fresh Chicken was a marketing slogan taking advantage of the company's initials. MMetro (talk) 13:15, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * The voiceover in the ad even says "Kentucky Fried Chicken is kitchen-fresh chicken". They wouldn't be repeating the "Kentucky..." name if they were trying to move away from it...it's evidently just a slogan taking advantage of the similar initials. Barnabypage (talk) 14:05, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * KFC has also advertised itself as "Kentucky Grilled Chicken", even going so far as to use the initialism KGC, but it doesn't mean that their official corporate name has changed. The official name is still KFC Corporation (changed from Kentucky Fried Chicken in 1991), and "Kentucky Fried Chicken" is still known as the widely popular interpretation (and origin) of this initialism. Like Mmetro said, it was likely just an advertising campaign taking advantage of the initials. &mdash; CIS (talk | stalk) 14:06, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
 * If you google it, the are also photos of KFC containers that say "Kitchen Fresh Chicken" on them instead of Kentucky Fried Chicken. You can also find articles in which discuss the topic.--Wck619 (talk) 01:49, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * But are there any reliable articles asserting a name change? Pretty much everything I found was dialogue much like the one here. Can you give us some links? Barnabypage (talk) 10:11, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I haven't been able to find a reliable site asserting that the company changed it's name, and I see now that it was probably just a marketing thing. But isn't it relevant enough to include in the article in some way? There is this page that says "KFC - ...Commercials in the early 2000s tried to imply that the abbreviation stands for "Kitchen Fresh Chicken", but in 2007 KFC decided to return to the original "Kentucky Fried Chicken" branding (although the corporate name remained KFC)." Could this information be added to the KFC article too? --Wck619 (talk) 21:07, 16 May 2010 (UTC)


 * As it was an advertising slogan, you could include it in the advertising section. However, the company never changed or insinuated it was changing its name or the meaning of the initials to mean kitchen fresh chicken. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 14:40, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

South Park!
No mention of last night's episode, Medicinal Fried Chicken. Someone get to it! 71.101.172.124 (talk) 20:31, 1 April 2010 (UTC)


 * How about you get to it? My last night was in a different time zone and a different country from yours, and I have different telly. Please be encyclopaedic when you do. I see it is already at Medicinal_Fried_Chicken, anyway, linked from List of South Park episodes by way of List_of_south_park_episodes. It didn't take too long for me to find that out. What were you doing? Si Trew (talk) 00:20, 2 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Please see WP:Trivia before adding this. That type of information perfectly exemplifies trivia. --Jeremy (blah blah • I did it!) 02:28, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

What was in The Family Feast Meal?
Original Recipe Chicken, Chips, Drinks, Potato & Gravy, Peas, Dinner Rolls and Coleslaw —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.76.214.195 (talk) 23:05, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

114.76.214.195 (talk) 01:39, 4 April 2010 (UTC) &mdash; CIS (talk | stalk) 17:39, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

Other racist commercials
There is a section on the 2010 cricket ad implying the stereotype of blacks eating fried chicken. There is no mention of the previous, more obvious and inflammatory advert, of the Asians dressed in "traditional" attire speaking broken English... the traditional mocking stereotype of Asians by America and "white" countries.

The advert in question: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpqTqtDT6t8

I am quite surprised there was such furore over the black stereotyping, but nothing over this... and considering KFCs and their parent company are opening more and more branches in China and the Far East (that region has the largest growth for their company), maybe it would not be wise for the locals there to watch such an advert??? Don't want to ruin their market share after all. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.111.120.73 (talk) 17:55, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

Edit request from RichardC91, 3 July 2010
I was reading the main article about KFC and there is something that should be corrected. The following is what is originally there and should be changed.

"Wages and working conditions Balmoral KFC workers and allies picketing the store

Like many fast food outlets, KFC employs a high proportion of young, unskilled workers, at or just above minimum wage, and its workers are not unionized."

I work for KFC in Australia and when we attend our team member orientation night at KFC headquaters in our state, we are spoken to by representatives from a union called SDA about the benefits of joining a union and the KFC represenatives there encouraged us to join the union to protect ourselves.

Just thought I should point that out because the article said its workers are not unionized. We are given the choice to join a union. It is solely up to the employee and is encouraged by KFC management.

Thank you.

RichardC91 (talk) 03:41, 3 July 2010 (UTC)


 * The following statement appeared in the article, in the section '';


 * Like many fast food outlets, KFC employs a high proportion of young, unskilled workers, at or just above minimum wage, and its workers are not unionized.


 * Because this statement was unreferenced, not neutral and I could not verify it, I have removed it.


 * RichardX91, thanks for highlighting that. The information you mention is interesting, but note that for a Wikipedia article, we can only add facts that have been published in some 'reliable source' such as a newspaper article - so if you want to add some facts to the article, you'll have to provide references. Thanks again,  Chzz  ► 07:10, 3 July 2010 (UTC)

St. Vincent and the Grenadines
Unless it has closed since I was last there, there is an outlet in Kingstown, St. Vincent and the Grenadines. fishhead64 (talk) 06:38, 21 July 2010 (UTC)