Talk:KGF: Chapter 2/Archive 1

Semi-protected edit request on 20 May 2020
Movieflickz.com 00:31, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 21 July 2021
117.207.41.14 (talk) 10:27, 21 July 2021 (UTC) Deepoka padukon actress remove
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Semi-protected edit request on 19 November 2021
Add Music Composer names Coolblack4 (talk) 07:56, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
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Production Session Edit
Hi, I want to remove in production selection one of the producer name called Karthik Gowda. can you please grant permission to edit that session. Poojasrireddy (talk) 10:13, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
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Indiscriminate info in track listing
@MNWiki845 You've added a bunch of information in track listing: adding [almost] all the singers of a song. While I appreciate your efforts, please read thru WP:INDISCRIMINATE. Wikipedia is not a collection of database. Please remove the listing and make the it compact. — DaxServer (t · m · c) 10:06, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Add Cast : Ebadat Akram Dunia
Ebadat Akram Dunia as Villain Thebranddunia (talk) 16:02, 12 April 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 April 2022 (2)
Change "mixed reviews" to "positive reviews". The reviews are positive majorly. Change "KGF: Chapter 2 received mixed reviews from critics" to "KGF: Chapter 2 received positive reviews from critics. The movie exceeded the pre-release hype."

KGF 2 Review: 'K.G.F: Chapter 2' is brutal tale of raw machismo and there is a hint at a third chapter | KGF 2 Movie Review (indiatimes.com) Yash's KGF Chapter 2 Gets Higher Rating Than RRR, Pushpa on IMDB (sakshi.com) - "he film has gathered positive reviews from critics, fans and public alike. "- "https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/kannada/movie-reviews/k-g-f-chapter-2/movie-review/90832069.cms" Even the citation given for the mixed reviews in the reception section says that the movie is good. The citation is itself wrong. Kindly change Kalbhag (talk) 05:07, 15 April 2022 (UTC) - https://menglish.sakshi.com/amp/news/tollywood/yashs-kgf-2-imdb-rating-153527" Kalbhag (talk) 13:24, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 14 April 2022 (3)
Update info after release Correction of addition of KGF Chapter 3 contrary to earlier claims. KGF2Tommorow (talk) 16:39, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
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 * Change "KGF: Chapter 2 received mixed reviews from critics" to "KGF: Chapter 2 received positive reviews from critics. The movie exceeded the pre-release hype."
 * KGF 2 Review: 'K.G.F: Chapter 2' is brutal tale of raw machismo and there is a hint at a third chapter | KGF 2 Movie Review (indiatimes.com)
 * Yash's KGF Chapter 2 Gets Higher Rating Than RRR, Pushpa on IMDB (sakshi.com) - "he film has gathered positive reviews from critics, fans and public alike. "- "https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/kannada/movie-reviews/k-g-f-chapter-2/movie-review/90832069.cms"
 * Even the citation given for the mixed reviews in the reception section says that the movie is good. The citation is itself wrong. Kindly change Kalbhag (talk) 05:07, 15 April 2022 (UTC) - https://menglish.sakshi.com/amp/news/tollywood/yashs-kgf-2-imdb-rating-153527" Kalbhag (talk) 09:04, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 15 April 2022
Please do write that this film received highly positive reviews from audience as is in the previous chapter the review of audience was given in the Wikipedia page. 2001:8F8:1471:A9FE:D141:13B1:69DE:6F30 (talk) 10:39, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
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Semi-protected edit request on 15 April 2022 (2)
"1978

fter killing Garuda, Rocky takes charge as the kingpin of the Kolar Gold Fields (KGF), much to the chagrin of Guru Pandian." Please add 'A' to it. After is the word. Debashish206 (talk) 11:04, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
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The "Critical Acclaim" claim in introduction
The critical acclaim in 'Introduction' section contradicts the mixed reviews from critics in 'Reception' section. It would also be helpful if there is a citation for the audience claim in 'Introduction' section since no other film page has something like that. Ddehhiorrty (talk) 03:42, 15 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Kindly check these source
 * KGF 2 Review: 'K.G.F: Chapter 2' is brutal tale of raw machismo and there is a hint at a third chapter | KGF 2 Movie Review (indiatimes.com)
 * Yash's KGF Chapter 2 Gets Higher Rating Than RRR, Pushpa on IMDB (sakshi.com) - "he film has gathered positive reviews from critics, fans and public alike. "
 * Even the citation given for the mixed reviews in the reception section says that the movie is good. The citation is itself wrong. Kindly change Kalbhag (talk) 05:07, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

The film met with positive reviews from both audience and critics Thailandbilla (talk) 06:20, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

The film met with highly positive reviews Thailandbilla (talk) 08:00, 15 April 2022 (UTC)


 * @Ddehhiorrty most of the critic reviews were positive. almost 90% of them and yet it's mentioned mixed reviews in the reception section. Srihariths (talk) 15:55, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
 * @Srihariths Wikipedia mostly uses the critic consensus found on rotten tomatoes to state how the movie is received critically. As of this reply, the critics score at rotten tomatoes stands at 44% indicating mixed reviews. Ddehhiorrty (talk) 08:57, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 April 2022
Kishan Yadav Azamgarh (talk) 08:13, 17 April 2022 (UTC) Please edit box office collection with Rs 332 Crore Source:Pinkvilla
 * Resolved below. (CC) Tb hotch ™ 17:41, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Source of box office collection
Please details report of box office collection for day 3 which tells 413 crores

Pink villa website source https://www.pinkvilla.com/entertainment/box-office/box-office-yash-starrer-kgf-chapter-2-storm-past-10-million-overseas-tops-500-crore-ww-sunday-1070039

Correct the data accordingly 49.205.147.173 (talk) 15:47, 17 April 2022 (UTC)


 * ✅ (CC) Tb hotch ™ 17:48, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

How it could be 390 cr
You said the two-day collection was Rs 286 crore and then how could the three-day collection be Rs 390 crore and get more collection on the third day, Bollywood hungama Are you trying to fool others with fake news? 2402:8100:2466:F022:495D:D80:AA63:31B7 (talk) 22:58, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 18 April 2022
1. KGF Chapter 2 collection has surpassed ₹550Crore as of day 4 therefore there should be an update

2. Box office est. ₹ 390 crore[9]

3. https://www.hindustantimes.com/entertainment/others/kgf-chapter-2-box-office-day-4-yash-s-film-crosses-550-crore-was-second-highest-grossing-film-globally-this-weekend-101650257476908-amp.html 2406:B400:A9:7FEB:38B5:282A:1791:4B64 (talk) 08:22, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done Its up-to-date using a different source Ab207 (talk) 08:31, 18 April 2022 (UTC)

Reception
The film met with positive response from both critics & audience Thailandbilla (talk) 13:21, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

The film received positive response Thailandbilla (talk) 13:22, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 19 April 2022
"Please change mixed reviews to positive reviews" Thailandbilla (talk) 14:07, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Positive reviews from mixed reviews Thailandbilla (talk) 14:08, 19 April 2022 (UTC)


 * ❌ 44% is not positive. (CC) Tb hotch ™ 19:52, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Box office collection
3 days collection of world wide is 410 crores in t2blive but you have kept it as 390 crores what is the source for 390 crores 49.205.147.173 (talk) 14:02, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

The source is already cited in that,do check that source. TuluveRai123 (talk) 14:43, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Please check the source of pink villa for 413 crores https://www.pinkvilla.com/entertainment/box-office/box-office-yash-starrer-kgf-chapter-2-storm-past-10-million-overseas-tops-500-crore-ww-sunday-1070039 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.205.147.173 (talk) 15:21, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Now the box office collection for 6 days worldwide is 675 crores

Source:

https://www.koimoi.com/box-office/kgf-chapter-2-box-office-worldwide-surpasses-baahubali-the-beginnings-650-crores-is-now-8th-highest-grossing-indian-movie-of-all-time/amp/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.205.150.100 (talk) 11:38, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Box office collection update 675 crores in 6 days
Change the box office numbers 1.186.32.226 (talk) 19:26, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Got a Source? MadGuy7023 (talk) 22:40, 20 April 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 April 2022 (5)
Change "KGF: Chapter 2 received mixed reviews from critics" to "KGF: Chapter 2 received positive reviews from critics. The movie exceeded the pre-release hype."

KGF 2 Review: 'K.G.F: Chapter 2' is brutal tale of raw machismo and there is a hint at a third chapter | KGF 2 Movie Review (indiatimes.com) Yash's KGF Chapter 2 Gets Higher Rating Than RRR, Pushpa on IMDB (sakshi.com) - "he film has gathered positive reviews from critics, fans and public alike. "- "https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/kannada/movie-reviews/k-g-f-chapter-2/movie-review/90832069.cms" Even the citation given for the mixed reviews in the reception section says that the movie is good. The citation is itself wrong. Kindly change Kalbhag (talk) 05:07, 15 April 2022 (UTC) - https://menglish.sakshi.com/amp/news/tollywood/yashs-kgf-2-imdb-rating-153527"
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Semi-protected edit request on 14 April 2022
It received mixed reviews from critics to It received positive reviews from critics Change "KGF: Chapter 2 received mixed reviews from critics" to "KGF: Chapter 2 received positive reviews from critics. The movie exceeded the pre-release hype."

KGF 2 Review: 'K.G.F: Chapter 2' is brutal tale of raw machismo and there is a hint at a third chapter | KGF 2 Movie Review (indiatimes.com) Yash's KGF Chapter 2 Gets Higher Rating Than RRR, Pushpa on IMDB (sakshi.com) - "he film has gathered positive reviews from critics, fans and public alike. "- "https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/kannada/movie-reviews/k-g-f-chapter-2/movie-review/90832069.cms" Even the citation given for the mixed reviews in the reception section says that the movie is good. The citation is itself wrong. Kindly change Kalbhag (talk) 05:07, 15 April 2022 (UTC) - https://menglish.sakshi.com/amp/news/tollywood/yashs-kgf-2-imdb-rating-153527"
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Procedural close after two weeks. Does not appear there is consensus for this, or it's already been done. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:53, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 14 April 2022 (4)
"The movie received mixed reviews from critics" to "The movie received positive reviews from critics" Citation - and "The film has gathered positive reviews from critics, fans and public alike" - The given citation is also from the same website with says the movie got positive reviews, and the cited text is misleading... Kindly check all reviews before posting.. kindly make the changes as requested Kalbhag (talk) 16:58, 14 April 2022 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Procedural close after two weeks. Does not appear there is consensus for this, or it's already been done. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:54, 29 April 2022 (UTC)

Pinkvilla is the only reliable site in the entire nation?
Despite having multiple discussions and providing multiple proofs in ICTF and other talk pages about non reliability of new comer Jatinder Singh who writes number as per his wish in a portal which is not specialised for box office. The website neither provide BO frame work or nor easy way to cross check their previously published. They keep changing numbers inside the articles too after publishing. Such sites should never be preferred. If there is a BO frame work one can check territory wise, country wise data any time, but no such things are present. How can we trust this site? A portal like bolly hungama, BOI provide clear data breakup and analysis. Anyone can write an article with numbers in today's world. Each and every site is turning out to give BO numbers but reliability is the main question which should come in place. Reliability will arise for a website only when data is present all the time with BO frame work for future reference and cross check.

When such functionalities are never present how come audience can trust Jatinder Singh who has been writing numbers just for 5 months in a site which a non RS before few months?

It should be BO portal to believe their BO figures like BH & BOI.

Then what difference does he make with trade analysts like Taran Adarsh, Manobala Vijayabalan, Ramesh Bala etc? At least these trade analyst figures are vouched by more than 4-5 reliable top media outlets of the nation both printing and online presence.

Whereas pinkvilla was majorly a gossip site, what reliability can it hold? If they want to really venture into BO field, why there is no BO frame work till date? Hence Jatinder Singh will also fall in the same category like self published sources.

There is no clear information of where he is getting data, no tracking mechanism, no real analytics, just mouth numbers. And articles were also not published on daily basis with day wise numbers. In a random day article gets published with random numbers. No day wise breakup for an user to create trust.

Another main thing which rises curiosity is, he hails from North India and knows only Hindi language, but he or his numbers are never being cited for any of the bollywood movie wiki articles. But why only for Tamil and Kannada? I guess wiki believes there are better sources than him for Bollywood movies, same way there are enough trade analysts in respective industries.

Now coming to KGF chapter 2 wiki article, there were usage of Bolly Hungama and Manobala Vijayabalan quoted by portals like Hindustan times, India Today, dna and even Times of India quoted. Jatinder Singh figure never came into picture for first 3 weeks of BO run, suddenly now he is being said as only reliable source in the nation.

As per trade, KGF2 has broken RRR record to become the highest grossing film of the year. But with 3 days old ₹1107 crore figure said by Jatinder Singh, it creates conflict even with wiki pages like list of grossers articles etc.

Bringing to the kind attention of        MovieBuffIndia (talk) 18:47, 9 May 2022 (UTC)

Archiving this page
Can we Archive this Talk Page as there are so many discussions and the page has gone above 20000 bytes. This is just my suggestion! TuluveRai123 (talk) 16:41, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
 * set a bot to archive older than 60 days should update with next 24 hours. WikiVirusC (talk) 00:17, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

Update box office collection to 1,180 crore
Kgf 2 1.186.32.226 (talk) 15:35, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 May 2022
1. KGF Chapter 2 has surpassed ₹1150 Crores and therefore shall be updated

2. Box office est. ₹1,107 crore[9]

3. https://www.indiatoday.in/amp/movies/regional-cinema/story/kgf-chapter-2-box-office-collection-day-26-yash-s-film-rakes-in-rs-1154-crore-worldwide-1947461-2022-05-10 2406:B400:A9:7FEB:E9D1:5D99:DFB6:E410 (talk) 06:00, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done article now states 1250 crore. ;;  Maddy ♥︎(they/she)♥︎ ::  talk   08:45, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

Changes
Please change the box office numbers everywhere 2405:204:50A0:CFD2:CCF1:4916:4EEE:4717 (talk) 06:57, 15 May 2022 (UTC)

K.G.F- Chapter 2 box office is 1232 crores worldwide. Ronit6969 (talk) 15:26, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 31 May 2022
We want to update the movie kgf chapter 2 on 3rd June 2022 release of digital premiere on Amazon prime 122.161.64.116 (talk) 05:35, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
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Home media
KGF was sold for record price to Amazon Prime Video https://news.abplive.com/entertainment/kgf-2-to-laxmmi-bomb-10-indian-films-that-were-sold-to-ott-at-record-price-1530337 Animancr7 (talk) 10:25, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
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Box Office
Asianet News, Mentioned KGF: Chapter 2 earned INR 1250 crore within 41 days and India Today which I consider more reliable mentioned INR 1232 crore in 45 day. Which one should be considered as more reliable? Grabup (talk) 13:12, 29 May 2022 (UTC)


 * 1250 106.201.37.150 (talk) 13:26, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ravensfire @Ab207 @C.Fred Need your opinion. Grabup (talk) 13:42, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

Both are reliable sources Tigerikkada (talk) 13:37, 29 May 2022 (UTC)


 * @Tigerikkada, You are saying both are reliable?. How even this possible? One source mentioned 1250 crore in 41 days and another 1232 in 45 days. Grabup (talk) 13:44, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

@Grabup, I dont think every one understand he box office statics of India, in India we have state wise box office tracker, some trackers gives collection without gst, n some others gives with gst. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tigerikkada (talk • contribs) 13:53, 29 May 2022 (UTC)


 * @Tigerikkada, Can you provide any other reliable source other then Asiannetnews, which mentioned 1250 crores? Grabup (talk) 13:58, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello, . I wouldn't call India Today source more reliable because it simply regurgitates the figures published by a Manobala Vijayabalan on twitter without their own fact checking.
 * Since everything in Indian box office is an estimate, some deviation among the sources is expected to arise. Unless we know for sure that some of these sources are dubious, we should simply display range by including both the figures, imv -- Ab207 (talk) 14:01, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ab207@Tigerikkada, As Ab207 suggested I added Both gross with the respective sources. Grabup (talk) 16:02, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
 * @Ab207,@Tigerikkada, Asianet News published another article where they are mentioned that the film grossed ₹1230 crore in 43 days. And then in the previous article they mentioned ₹1250 crore in 41 days. The new article cited the Tweet which India Today cited. Grabup (talk) 04:32, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
 * Better to maintain the current range. When most sources agree that the film crossed ₹1250 cr, then the lower estimate can be removed -- Ab207 (talk) 12:59, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

The box office for the film K.G.F-Chapter 2 is 1232 Crores Ronit6969 (talk) 15:23, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

K.G.F-Chapter 2 box office is 1232 Crores worldwide. Ronit6969 (talk) 15:25, 29 May 2022 (UTC)

I think we should use MBV's numbers only when other sources aren't available. Since Asianet numbers are reliable, we should stay clear of MBV's numbers Bodi123 (talk) 04:04, 30 May 2022 (UTC)


 * @Bodi123, What about the reliability of this article published by Asiannetnews but the numbers are deferent.🙃 Grabup (talk) 04:50, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

@Grabup I mean I understand your point of view, but previous discussions on the Wikipedia Reliable Source lists Asiannet as a reliable source, and MBV's as not reliable. I believe that since for over two weeks noone other than MBV reported figures for KGF, and hence his figures were used. Besides MBV's figures have historically had discrepancy with other reported sources, including for films like Beast, RRR and Sarkari Vaari Pata as well. The Telugu and Tamil industries almost never use his figures anymore. Bodi123 (talk) 07:48, 30 May 2022 (UTC)

Not to insult anyone and with respect, this is a totally unnecessary discussion. Because we're here arguing for nothing. Both India Today and Asianet News are same as reliable. But Asianet has an advantage over the India Today because India Today publishes the numbers from a 3rd party platform. Which is from Twitter (a social media). While Asianet published their numbers from their own work. That's why I'd say it's the better one to be in the article. Thank you. XT RedZone (talk) 19:06, 30 May 2022 (UTC)


 * @XT RedZone, The same source AsianetNews reported in 27th May that the film earned INR 1230 crore within 43 days and they did not referred to any tweet in that article. On the other hand in previous report they mentioned 1250 crore in 41 days. Now can you tell me which article we should follow? Grabup (talk) 09:51, 31 May 2022 (UTC)
 * This may be a scenario where the infobox and lead has a range and the box office section attributes the various numbers to the sources. I would also caution to remember that Wikipedia is WP:NOTNEWS, so worrying about day-to-day changes when after a few months there is more likely to be consensus among sources can be counter-productive.  There is no deadline.  Ravensfire  (talk) 14:12, 1 June 2022 (UTC)

Hi.. It's been 2 months snd multiple sources have quoted 1250 crores. Can we now remove the lower limit now? 1) English:

https://m.timesofindia.com/entertainment/telugu/movies/news/kgf2-to-vikrant-rona-5-pan-india-kannada-films-that-shocked-the-indian-box-office/amp_etphotostory/93181142.cms

2) Kannada:

a) https://vijaykarnataka.com/entertainment/news/james-kgf-chapter-2-777-charlie-after-vikrant-rona-enters-rs-100-cr-club/amp_articleshow/93292664.cms?utm_source=hyperlink_amp&utm_medium=news-articleshow&utm_campaign=article-2

b) https://tv9kannada.com/entertainment/sandalwood/kgf-chapter-2-movie-still-performing-in-mumbai-yash-movie-collects-1250-crore-in-world-box-office-rmd-au34-404559.html/amp

c) https://tv9kannada.com/entertainment/sandalwood/yash-kgf-2-puneeth-rajkumar-james-rakshit-shetty-777-charlie-and-sudeep-vikrant-rona-joins-100-crore-club-rmd-au34-422410.html/amp

3) Telugu :

https://tv9telugu.com/entertainment/tollywood/kgf-chapter-2-box-office-collection-day-50-yash-film-inches-closer-to-rs-1250-crore-globally-hombale-films-tweet-au55-721195.html/amp Kataariveera (talk) 16:38, 3 August 2022 (UTC)


 * No objection from me. When there are numerous estimates like in this case, better to present the most reported figures(s). -- Ab207 (talk) 19:31, 3 August 2022 (UTC)