Talk:KSDK

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This how article is 50% an ad for KDSK. Clearly someone at that station is writing it. This is an encyclopeida not an ad. Someone needs to take out all this hype and giberish. It appears no other St Louis stations have all this slanted information "celebrating" how great the station is and it is written like a commerical. For example "Not surprising since KDSK is a leader..."

Logo gallery
Apparently, Wikipedia user A Man In Black is removing the logo galleries from the station websites, presumably because he believes they are cruft. I disagree. The KSDK entry has extraneous info, but I think that logo galleries are an interesting view of a station's history. Anybody agree/disagree? Crooow 17:44, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

I agree about the logo galleries, I think that every effort should be made to include them on station pages. However, I'm not sure about the copyright info on any of the logos, so I don't know about the legality of including them.

As far as extraneous info, the KSDK page is definitely too long (33 kilobytes). Maybe the awards section should be completely removed. It isn't up-to-date, and it takes up a lot of space (I would imagine). I also highly doubt that many people care, or would even take the time to read it. However, while some of the other info may be superfluous, much of it is relevant. Hazel2410 22:00, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
 * About the awards section, would it hurt splitting it into its own article (Awards given to KSDK-V or something like that)? I'll put a notice in the article. J Klein talk tome!!!! 22:34, 11 February 2007 (UTC)

Since I've heard no opposition to splitting the awards section into a separate article, I'm going to create a new article. I've also added an out-of-date tag on it, but I'm going to also add the 2006 awards (sure the 2007 awards haven't been announced). When I get around to it I might add the other St. Louis station awards to the articles (or new articles, depending on the length of the articles. talk to J Klein 23:09, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Removal of Links
Recently, KSDK’s page has undergone some major changes, mostly having to do with the page’s organization and appearance. These are my own personal thoughts on these changes:

1.) The removal of all the links in the “personalities” section (and the use of boldface to highlight the names) seems like a step backward because many of the personalities (especially the past personalities) have their own page, to which their name is no longer linked (what is the point of the personal pages if their name can’t be linked to it?). Though it does create some uniformity with the other St. Louis TV station pages, in my opinion, this change does not improve the page overall.  I think the links to both the personal pages, and pages of the stations where the people are currently working, should be re-added to this page (and probably the same to done to the other pages, as well).

2.) The reorganization of the page and the creation of the “Awards” page are, in my opinion, well done (although, I did make a few minor changes).

Does anyone else have any thoughts/opinions? Hazel2410 23:13, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

Fair use rationale for Image:Ksdk.gif
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Question about the station's history
The article states that KSD-TV became KSDK in 1983. The station's website says this as well. However, two YouTube videos of KSDK clips from 1982 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVx6uMHtg7Y) and (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7isgm4DmzLA) show graphics that read "Copyright 1982 KSDK, Inc."). Does anybody familiar with St. Louis media history know when KSD started using KSDK as their call letters? Crooow (talk) 04:17, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

From FCC web site linked in the article: Call Sign Begin Date KSDK 09/24/1998 KSDK-TV 03/25/1983 KSD-TV 09/10/1979 KSDK 07/10/1979 That doesn't seem right. Were they called KSDK for 2 months in 1979, or is the FCC web site in error? It does confirm the 1983 date, though. Madlobster (talk) 01:05, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

Significant trimming of Former Staff section
I just cut everyone out of the alumni section that does not have their own Wikipedia page or have a reference to establish their notability and verify that they worked at they station. This is the current consensus procedure, based on discussions at WP:WikiProject Television Stations and at the Village Pump. The rationales are as follows:
 * 1) Most importantly, per WP:NOT, Wikipedia is "not an indiscriminate collection of information." As that section describes, just because something is true, doesn't necessarily mean the info belongs in Wikipedia.
 * 2) Secondarily, per WP:V, we cannot include information that is not verifiable and sourced. I'm not certain how it would even be possible to source this information.
 * 3) Per WP:BLP, we have to be especially careful about including un-sourced info about living persons.

All of the people with their own pages are notable enough to appear on this list. However, if you look at pages about companies in general, you will not find mention of previous employees, except in those cases where the employee was particularly notable. Even then, the information is not presented just as a list of info, but is incorporated into the text itself (for example, when a company's article talks about the policies a previous CEO had, or when they mention the discovery/invention of a former engineer/researcher). Qwyrxian (talk) 08:25, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
 * Hello. I am fixing disambiguation links, some of which are in this section, and was wondering if someone could check my edit, especially Brian Edwards. Thanks. -PC-XT+ 07:12, 21 June 2013 (UTC)

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