Talk:KSI/Archive 2

Semi-protected edit request on 10 March 2021
can i add his alliasis on other social media sites ike lord ksi on twiiter and his fan nickname him fatneek SmartboiUK (talk) 17:44, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: No, especially not for the final part. Also, please be clearer with what changes you want to make. —Belwine (talk) 20:15, 10 March 2021 (UTC)

Requested move 19 March 2021

 * The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 

The result of the move request was: Pages moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Jerm (talk) 23:20, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

– Think it's safe to say this KSI article is the primary topic for the acronym, as evidenced by pageviews and Google search results. SK2242 (talk) 19:03, 19 March 2021 (UTC) The discussion above is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
 * KSI (entertainer) → KSI
 * KSI → KSI (disambiguation)
 * Support as per nom. 162.208.168.92 (talk) 20:29, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Support ditto. Wretchskull (talk) 12:10, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Support as per nom. Edl-irishboy (talk) 22:46, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Support as per nom. Ajshul ( 🗣 &#124; 😃 ) 14:58, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Support as per nom. Sahaib3005 (talk) 10:45, 26 March 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 March 2021
KSI is 5’11” not 6’0” simple mistake that could be fixed 2603:8000:2C01:6513:4C5D:C729:C399:9441 (talk) 00:43, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Source is required. See the note at the top of this page.  RudolfRed (talk) 01:05, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 21 April 2021
Nickname(s) The Nightmare Should also be fatneek Mural oesaphohus (talk) 14:27, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

If you watch his videos form 2019 he was called a fatneek Mural oesaphohus (talk) 14:28, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:36, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Infobox name
Why is his name given as "Olajide Jide Junior Olayinka William Olatunji" in the infobox when neither of the sources support it, and when the legal documentation related to his business activities clearly indicates, rather than the often-given "Olajide William Olatunji", the correct "Olajide Olayinka WilliamS Olatunji" as stated at the head of the article? Is it some kind of joke (presumably, based on the "Junior" part)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.145.160.58 (talk) 03:12, 21 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Appears to be a joke edit that went unnoticed. Reverted. SK2242 (talk) 23:12, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 23 April 2021
Recently became a Lord so should be titled as a Lord Olajide Olayinka Williams "JJ" Olatunji or Lord KSI 2A00:23C7:641A:F501:80E7:B3EF:55AC:4CE2 (talk) 11:10, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:17, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
 * A piece of paper that was bought through the internet does not make somebody a lord. – 2 . O . Boxing  14:24, 23 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 30 April 2021
SocialMediaGuy01 (talk) 16:30, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Olajide Olayinka Williams Olatunji, commonly known as KSI or JJ, is an English YouTuber, musician, actor, and professional boxer. He's well-known from his social media group "the Sidemen." In 2019, he fought against Logan Paul (who's also a YouTuber) and won due to split decision.
 * ❌ Not important to be in the lead. – DarkGlow • 16:43, 30 April 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 7 June 2021
KSI's actual hieght was disclosed in one of his videos, he was shown and said to be 5 ' 9, not 6 ' 0 like in the document Shiamanlii (talk) 19:30, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: Please provide a reliable source for the change, and note that a youtube video is likely not considered reliable. A S U K I T E  22:39, 7 June 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 8 June 2021
KSI is actually 5,11 not 6,0 ft 85.237.234.35 (talk) 08:38, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:24, 8 June 2021 (UTC)

KSI should not have "professional boxer" in lead, it's just congestion
Stated many times before, "boxer" is not defining of KSI's career fame, and it is not a reasonable article leading occupation. Like other short term fighters, he has a dedicated sub-section for his "professional record", it does not serve to be a proper lead. He is not comparable to Jake and Logan Paul in boxing because they are active boxers. Prior press coverage for his fight with Logan Paul is irrelevant to the fact as even Ben Askren and Nate Robinson have both had far more press as opponents of Jake Paul, yet their article leads remain unchanged. Moreover YouTube videos where KSI allegedly mentions that he trains and at one point has talked about desires of "wanting to fight Jake Paul" are not sources. He has not officially announced another fight nor a potential opponent. He has had one opponent that stemmed from a YouTube beef, not a desire to pursue boxing. Jake Paul on the other hand actually has an upcoming fight. ChicagoWikiEditor (talk) 20:03, 16 June 2021 (UTC)

I agree that boxer should not be mentioned in the opening paragraph. Per MOS:ROLEBIO:

The lead sentence should describe the person as they are commonly described in reliable sources.

The noteworthy position(s) or role(s) the person held should usually be stated in the opening paragraph. However, avoid overloading the lead paragraph with various and sundry roles; instead, emphasize what made the person notable. Incidental and non-noteworthy roles (i.e. activities that are not integral to the person's notability) should usually not be mentioned in the lead paragraph.

The overwhelming majority of references used in the article describe him as a YouTuber; boxing is not what he is notable for, nor is it integral to his notability; he's had two amateur bouts and one professional, with no official titles or awards, so it's not exactly a note-worthy role; and his foray into boxing is incidental to his YouTube career (we can safely presume that KSI would never have stepped into a boxing ring had it not been for his YouTube career). I think the brief mention of his fights at the end of the third paragraph is sufficient. – 2 . O . Boxing  10:31, 17 June 2021 (UTC)

Boxing Record
Boxing Record for KSI is wrong, he had fought Joe Weller before Logan Paul ContentRegistered (talk) 21:33, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
 * the infobox displays his professional record, Joe Weller was an amateur bout. – 2 . O . Boxing  21:40, 21 June 2021 (UTC)

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 * KSI on Independent News.jpg

Semi-protected edit request on 24 July 2021
KSI is a boxer. 1.186.229.191 (talk) 16:55, 24 July 2021 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. The infobox says that his occupation is boxer. What change are you suggesting?  RudolfRed (talk) 19:01, 24 July 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 9 August 2021
Please add the mention of his newest track with Lil Wayne “Lose” Released August 6th 2021 JamesWikiq (talk) 13:01, 9 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:22, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 12 August 2021
Change his height from 5'11 to 6'. The source provided for his height claims he's 6', not 5'11. JDHurford (talk) 02:44, 12 August 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ Matches source: https://archive.ph/5Rrqi –– 𝗙𝗼𝗿𝗺𝗮𝗹𝗗𝘂𝗱𝗲  talk  05:31, 12 August 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 August 2021
KSI is publicly stated he is an agnostic. On his views on God and religion, he said: "I believe in the thing, but I don't know what the thing is", which is linked with agnostic theism. 106.212.112.87 (talk) 11:38, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:43, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 August 2021
Change the height from 6ft to 5'11 ft because its his official height and he said it 88.101.253.33 (talk) 12:44, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:10, 28 August 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 16 October 2021
Add singer in the first line of the article and occupation because he has released many songs recently where he's singing (Holiday, You, Patience etc). Holiday and Patience both charted in top 3 of Official Singles Chart (Holiday being his highest charting song so far which is him singing from start to finish) so he is now notable for singing just as much as rapping, as evident by this BBC article, where they state "The Watford YouTuber, turned boxer, turned rapper/singer....".

And change the third line of the article from "He is also part of the British YouTube group known as the Sidemen" to "He is also also a co-founder and member of the British YouTube group known as the Sidemen, which have a combined total of 106 million subscribers across all their channels" because he is a co-founder of the group (along with Zerkaa, TBJZL and Vikkstar123, all three of which have the word co-founder in the lead) and the group has 106 million combined subscribers across all their channels. (sourced by this BBC article)

2402:E280:2316:74:6584:3BE7:5AA8:BD0A (talk) 18:32, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ –– FormalDude  talk  19:21, 17 October 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 24 September 2021
his height isn't 6 it is actually 5 11 give me the permission to edit it Digbickk69 (talk) 05:19, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. SK2242 (talk) 05:22, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

https://www.quora.com/How-tall-is-KSI-s-dad, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Im3GyfWilB4, https://www.celebheights.com/s/-KSI-50289.html, https://www.brie.me/2020/09/ksi-height.html,

Hope this helps FaZe MajdaŠvagan (talk) 19:47, 28 October 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 29 October 2021
Height is 5’11 (180cm/1.8m) not 6ft (183cm/1.83m) 80.1.223.240 (talk) 01:37, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: Requires a reliable third-party source. SK2242 (talk) 14:54, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 17 October 2021
Under labels please add (The Online Takeover ), its JJ’s label that he made and there are many references to prove it and I even remember JJ talking about it in a video on his second channel. 73.243.247.201 (talk) 23:14, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made.	Heartmusic678 (talk) 10:56, 2 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 10 October 2021
change the offical name of ksi to Lord Olajide Olayinka Williams Olatunji or something of the sort as he gained lordship in early 2021. Hhitchiner (talk) 14:01, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:16, 10 October 2021 (UTC)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhQEtp-BWlU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZsSJF93hlU https://twitter.com/KSI?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

Hope this solves the problem. FaZe MajdaŠvagan (talk) 19:56, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Fake news. He's not a Lord. – 2 . O . Boxing  18:32, 28 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Bro how much proof do you want he said he is the lord and he is been made a lord legally and for real. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FaZe MajdaŠvagan (talk • contribs) 13:53, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Peerages can't be bought and given away as a gift. He's not a Lord. – 2 . O . Boxing  17:43, 5 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 3 November 2021
Addition of this line in the first paragraph of article - "He is also a co-founder and member of the British YouTube group known as the Sidemen, which have a combined 123 million subscribers". (sourced by this The Times article)

And addition of singer in the first line and occupation (infobox) because he has released many songs where he's singing (Holiday, You, Patience etc). Holiday and Patience both charted in top 3 of Official Singles Chart (Holiday being his highest charting song) so he is now notable for singing just as much as rapping, as evident by this BBC article, where they state "The Watford YouTuber, turned boxer, turned rapper/singer....".

I raised both these edit requests on 16th October with sources attached, both of which were accepted by User:FormalDude, however they have since been removed without any reason. So I'm raising the requests again. I've added an updated source for the Sidemen line since they were covered in The Times magazine very recently.—103.59.75.157 (talk) 18:29, 2 November 2021 (UTC)


 * ✅ ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 18:43, 2 November 2021 (UTC)


 * I'll have to update the subs with the source later, as it's a bit of a pain on mobile, but I reintroduced singer. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:03, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * User:ScottishFinnishRadish Thank you. When you do so, change the "He is best known for co-founding the British YouTube group known as....." to "He is also a co-founder and member of the British YouTube group known as...." since that was what my original edit request was which was accepted a few weeks ago. I think someone later added the "best known for..." part, it actually doesn't say that anywhere in the source that he is best known for it. It should just be "He is also a co-founder and member of the British YouTube group known as the Sidemen, which have a combined 123 million subscribers" (with the The Times article linked above). —2402:E280:2316:74:EDC7:7371:9A4C:1053 (talk) 19:52, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * There's a whole thing going on about the best known for. I think dropping that phrasing entirely is likely the best idea. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:56, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
 * I removed best known for, and I just dropped the total number of subs for the sidemen, as anyone interested can just click through to that article. Now we don't have to bother trying to keep the lead of this article updated with the total subscriber count for a group of people that aren't him. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 12:12, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
 * User:ScottishFinnishRadish I agree with removing best known for, however I do think that total subs for the Sidemen should be in the lead because that's a pretty big milestone that's been covered in The Times, BBC News etc and KSI is the co-founder of it so it would make sense to mention it in brief in this article. That's what I said in my original edit request which User:FormalDude accepted, the only change being that BBC News source should be updated with The Times source since that's a lot more recent. Also, singer has once again been removed from the lead without any edit summary. —2402:E280:2316:74:3D84:8B9E:B05E:D1F6 (talk) 18:08, 10 November 2021 (UTC)

relationship and height
As of now KSI is single. He posted that on his insta story.

and he is 5'11. he has said that so many times through out his videos — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.89.103.146 (talk) 14:10, 16 November 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 22 January 2022
The picture is outdated. MrA290698 (talk) 20:50, 22 January 2022 (UTC)

A more recent photo is needed. MrA290698 (talk) 20:52, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: If you have one in mind that meets WP:Image Use Policy, feel free to link to it. Cannolis (talk) 21:35, 22 January 2022 (UTC)