Talk:KTM/Archive 1

January 2007
This article must have been vandalized at some point because the statement "The company was founded in 1934 by engineer Mathew Burke in Mattighofen" is clearly wrong, according to the official history page at ktm.com the founder of the repair shop later to become KTM was named Hans Trunkenpolz and nothing else (which was what the article said a while ago), I'm changing it back. There might be more factual errors that needs to be corrected. Psvanstrom 23:47, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

motorization of the motorcycles
if i recall correctly, in the 1970s, the enduro KTMs, then very popular in Europe, were motorized by a Bombardier two-stoke, two cylinder engine, with the distinct characteristic of the air-cooling fins of the cylinder head laid out in the pattern of a fan (in French, the term to describe it was "culasse hérisson" (hedgehog head).

--Jerome Potts 04:21, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Aha, maybe it was the Rotax engine (Austrian company then already owned by KTM). --Jerome Potts 04:27, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

re:motorization
To my knowledge KTMs never used Bombardier 2-stroke engines. KTMs had aways used German Sachs or DKW engines. They did use the Rotax engine (made by Bombardier who made Can-Am 2-stroke bikes) in their early 4-stoke motorcycles, the LC4 was a Rotax motor, LC meaning liquid cooled.

Michael James KTM882 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.86.179.84 (talk) 23:04, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

KTM Model History
I have started putting together the model history for KTM; see the Model History section.

The Wikipolice won't let me make a template for each model so if you want to make a page for a model use the below template and replace "(no information)" with the model information. See the 50 SX Mini  page for how it looks completed.--BenjaminPQ (talk) 03:01, 21 June 2009 (UTC)

The KTM (no information) is a Motorcycle made by KTM from (no information) to (no information).

2000
(no information)

1900
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Page move reverted
I just reverted the move of this page. KTM is the common name for this company. KTM is the most used version of this acronym and naming the article KTM fits with WP:COMMONNAME. If you do feel it should be moved then request a move and let's see if consensus can be reached. I for one will oppose the move. --Biker Biker (talk) 13:50, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

March 2010
Alot of this article sounds like it was written by someone from within the company. A few phrases that stood out to me were "To create a strong brand identity..." and "their focus will soon shift...". Kloud (talk) 11:34, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Agreed - I just hatted this with as this is one of the worse articles I've run across in a long time. --Marc Kupper&#124;talk 20:49, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

"Trunkenpolz died unexpectedly in 1989"
Regarding the sentence "Trunkenpolz died unexpectedly in 1989" - considering that Trunkenpolz founded the company in 1934, was he really at an age where a death is unexpected in 1989? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.59.121.175 (talk • contribs) 19:19, 27 June 2007


 * What it probably means (although I have no idea of the actual facts) is that he wasn't suffering from any obvious illnesses at the time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.9.32.203 (talk • contribs) 05:45, 2 July 2007


 * I dug into this as that sentence caught my eye too. I found a July 2002 Dirt Rider article that says that says Hans Trunkenpolz died in 1962 of a heart attack with his son Erich taking his place in company. Erich Trunkenpolz died in 1989.


 * BTW, that July 2002 issue of Dirt Rider is a really good one for data about KTM. There are three articles:
 * Page 89: From rags to riches: How KTM emerged from near-death to become a powerhouse in the sport by Mark Kariya.
 * Page 92: KTM USA: The American success story. This article is mainly about John Penton and his role in KTM USA. It mentions that Erich Trunkenpolz was the owner in 1967.
 * Page 102: Scot Harden: Reveals how KTM made its comeback and its plans for the future. It mentions that KTM was owned by the Trunkenpolz family up to 1989. In 1989 Erich Trunkenpolz sold shares in the company and as a result was taken over by the investment company GIT Trust Holding. Apparently Erich's title changed from "owner" to "manager" at this point as the From rags to riches article says he was the manager at his death in 1989.
 * I don't have the time to fully mine these articles for data to add to this Wikipedia article but hopefully someone with an interest in KTM can get a copy of the magazine. --Marc Kupper&#124;talk 21:02, 8 January 2011 (UTC)

Ktm Duke
At the rigth site of this page you can see a KTM Duke with the caption: supermoto bike I mean the KTM Duke is a naked bike and the Supermoto-series of KTM are 'Supermoto's' —Preceding unsigned comment added by RepsolH (talk • contribs) 13:53, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Sources called the Duke 620 a Supermoto or Supermotard. Refs added. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 14:18, 4 May 2011 (UTC)

overhaul
This article needs a complete overhaul. It is written way to much like an advertisement and just has information you don't need. We just need to start from the top and work our way down honestly. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ktm306 (talk • contribs) 08:56, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
 * WP:BOLD --Biker Biker (talk) 09:12, 4 September 2011 (UTC)

Undiscussed move
I've requested an admin to move KTM-Sportmotorcycle AG back to KTM. This needs disucssion. The reason, "Malaysian railway is much known" is news to me and I can't find any evidence suggesting the Austrian company is not the primary topic. There should be consensus before a move of this kind. If we do move the page, it should comply with Naming conventions (companies), and remove the AG. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 16:07, 2 August 2015 (UTC)

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Gas gas ownership
"GASGAS Motorcycles GmbH (Spain, 60%)" They bought the last 40% in 2020, GasGas is now owned by KTM Esteban Outeiral Dias (talk) 19:01, 11 May 2022 (UTC)