Talk:KTVU/Archive 1

Departure of Leslie Griffith
I removed this section. It is not fact it's just a personal opinion of why someone may have left. It is basically a blog entry 4.142.96.249 23:01, 2 September 2007 (UTC)eric

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Departure of Sara Sidner
Sigh. Thank you, Anastrophe. for reverting my edit. I watched, with my own eyes, Sara Sidner's departure from KTVU at the very end of the 10:00 News on 12/31/07. Hard to cite, but still true. I trust you will un-revert your needless reversion when sufficient proof is available. Rlw (Talk) 21:26, 2 January 2008 (UTC)


 * um, i detect some snarkiness there. whatever. WP:VERIFIABILITY vs WP:OR. i wish i'd had an opportunity to see her last broadcast, i liked her very much. but content on WP must be verifiable via reliable sources. 'i saw it' isn't. had i seen her last broadcast, i wouldn't have added the info to the article, because i'm not a WP:RS. sorry if you disagree with the reversion, but policy trumps that. Anastrophe (talk) 21:31, 2 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Fair enough. Is it better now? Rlw (Talk) 22:01, 2 January 2008 (UTC)


 * yes, excellent citations, thank you. Anastrophe (talk) 22:29, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Where is Leslie?
Leslie Griffith has been missing in action for about two months. Is she all right? Rlw (Talk) 01:08, 5 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Griffith's resignation was announced - but not explained - on air on 17 November 2006. Rlw (Talk) 16:05, 18 November 2006 (UTC)


 * speculation was harrassment by dennis richmond and an out-of-court settlement.  Yabbadabbawho (talk) 16:41, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Pam Cook links to bio of completely different person
here is the bio from the KTVU website: http://www.ktvu.com/station/1849383/detail.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by BastardEnumeration (talk • contribs) 15:52, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

How KTVU competed for local ad dollars.
Having worked there, KTVU was known in the industry as "The House That M.A.S.H. Built" since they had their greatest success running M.A.S.H. in syndication.

But on national ad buys, the typical pattern was for media buyers to buy the 3 networks and ignore the independents. How could KTVU get more ad revenue and prosper? Sure, Giants Baseball and M.A.S.H. helped, but that wasn't enough.

The trick was to create a "mini" ad agency inside the station called "The Retail Services Department", staffed by writer/producers and equipped with a motor home converted to a mobile dressing room/office. The #2 Jack London Square facility was practically built for Retail Services, with a "hard wall" cyclorama to do car commercials and a full CMX equipped edit suite outfitted for client comfort.

The KTVU sales staff could call in a consultant from Retail Services to assist them in getting local business on TV by removing the impediment of the production of the ad. This was something new; none of the other TV stations did commercial production for their advertisers. (KRON did do some Macy's spots but that business moved to KTVU eventually)

KTVU charged much less than market prices for their technical services like location shooting on film or tape, editing, casting and copy writing, studio rental, etc. all in an effort to get more ads on the air or to get a bigger share of the buy. In some cases, KTVU sales reps actually did the media plan for the client, keeping the majority of the buy on KTVU, but also putting together proposals that included spots on the other stations.

KTVU also approached long time print advertisers like Safeway, Macy's, Pacific Stereo, Emporium, etc. with a new concept of Vendor Supported TV Advertising around special events like Mother's Day or Back To School. The principle innovation was to seek "over and above" standard vendor 2% co-op to fund the effort. In effect, KTVU Retail Services showed the advertiser how to get their vendors to pay 100% of the cost of the TV advertising. The retailers didn't believe it was possible until they took KTVU's recommendation, created an event or program and sought funding for it. The retailers typically created their own in house agency so they could bill the vendor gross and then use the 15% commission to pay for the costs of production.

That concept of vendor support beyond co-op spread widely; almost every insert one sees in the Sunday paper for companies such as Best Buy, Walgreens, Rire-Aid, Office Max, etc. are actually paid for by the retailer selling participations to their vendors.76.14.65.187 (talk) 17:11, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

San Jose
If you log on to KTVU.com it says San Francisco, Oakland and San Jose. Over here on Wikipedia it says San Francisco and Oakland only. Don't forget about San Jose people. San Jose should be in the list, San Jose is a major city in the Bay Area. I'm going to add San Jose on to the list, please do not change it back to only San Francisco and Oakland. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.125.48.86 (talk) 02:38, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

Adding unreferenced entries of former employees to lists containing BLP material
Hello, Please do not add unreferenced or improperly referenced names as entries to the list of former employees in the article. Not including this type of material in articles abides by current consensus and is strongly discouraged in our policies and guidelines. The rationales are as follows:


 * 1) WP:NOT tells us, Wikipedia is "not an indiscriminate collection of information." As that section describes, just because something is true, doesn't necessarily mean the info belongs in Wikipedia.
 * 2) As per WP:V, we cannot include information in Wikipedia that is not verifiable and sourced.
 * 3) WP:NLIST tells us that lists included within articles (including people's names) are subject to the same need for references as any other information in the article.
 * 4) Per WP:BLP, we have to be especially careful about including un-sourced info about living persons.

If you look at articles about companies in general, you will not find mention of previous employees, except in those cases where the employee was particularly notable. Even then, the information is not presented just as a list of names, but is incorporated into the text itself (for example, when a company's article talks about the policies a previous CEO had, or when they mention the discovery/invention of a former engineer/researcher). thanks Deconstructhis (talk) 04:50, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

CNN Partnership
Under the KTVU website "News" section (http://www.ktvu.com/news/index.html), there is a section clearly marked "CNN News". Is there an explanation as to why KTVU has partnered with CNN for news content when it is an affiliate of Fox News as the article claims?

The "FOX" logo also no longer appears within the KTVU logo on the webpage and on the air. In fact, FOX is not mentioned at KTVU.com at all, although KTVU-TV/FOX 2 does still appear on FOX's official list of affiliates (http://www.fox.com/affiliates.php).

- Amanisdude (talk) 22:15, 3 June 2011 (UTC)


 * In looking into it further, it appears the article never mentions that KTVU/FOX 2 is affiliated with "Fox News", although it does mention it is affiliated with "Fox". Perhaps it should be noted that they do not rely on Fox for news-related content.


 * - Amanisdude (talk) 22:30, 3 June 2011 (UTC)

KTVU-DT
From 1999 until 2009, promos and newscasts openings from 2005 used the KTVU-DT callsign; this was dropped in 2009 after the switch to digital signal, it became again as simply "KTVU". RVal02 (talk) 04:16, 12 July 2020 (UTC)