Talk:KT Tunstall/Archive 1

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My Scottish geography is very bad, but is it actually possible for Tunstall to come from Edinburgh, Fife and St. Andrews simultaenously, as the article mentions these various places...


 * Well, Fife is an island, and St Andrews is a town on that island. She was born in Edinburgh, but adopted by Fife parents. smurray  inch   e  ster  ( User ), ( Talk ) 22:09, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Fife is a peninsula, not an island! --Liam Mason 16:54, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Isn't it a Kingdom? Though calling it that would completely confuse the Americans... and the English. 85.210.1.71 18:48, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
 * It's called the Kingdom of Fife, but it's just a romantic title. Fife was the last Kingdom of the Picts and home to many Scottish Royals over the centuries. --195.92.40.49 17:23, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

What's wrong with "British"? She is after all a British singer song writer, got something against the Brits? It's no more redundant than mentioning she is Scottish.
 * The redundancy is in the fact that "British" and "Scottish" were used in the same sentence. Once we know she's Scottish, it's automatically known that she's British, so it's poor writing to restate the fact. RMoloney 09:54, 19 October 2005 (UTC)

Well, no. No one has anything against the 'Brits'. With the exception that only the English and the North Ireland Pro-English Faction actually call themselves British. The term 'British' is a hang-over from imperial days. Most if not all of the other citizens of the 'United Kingdom' don't consider themselves 'british' so much as welsh, irish, scots....even the english will proudly state that they are english. It's also a way of the English (who still like the idea of taking advantage of the other countries in the U.K.), deflecting political pressure off of themselves and onto the rest of the isles. As another in this article suggested, when it's a positive thing it's English,...when it's not it's British or more pointedly Scots, Irish or Welsh. Plus, "Scottish" is more specific than "British". It's a bit like calling a Scotsman "English", it's very annoying. As soon as a Scotsman or woman does something positive [like the Curling team winning a gold medal], they're British, as soon as they fail a drugs test, they're Scottish, according to the London-based media of the UK. Best to call her Scottish all the time, and make everyone happy. Anon.


 * Well it isn't like calling a Scotsman "English"! That's just simple inaccuracy and ignorance.


 * Given that this is meant to be read by the English-speaking world, rather than just the UK, this squabble sounds ridiculous. How does "KT Tunstall is a British singer/songwriter from Fife, Scotland" sound?.


 * It would be fine to put that in. But only if YOU go through every single "English" musician and change it to "British from England". For example, David Gray or Dido or James Blunt or even Eric Clapton. In fact there is a whole category of "English" musicians, see Category:English_musicians. So think it would be fair to call her Scottish.

Is this still a Stub? JP Godfrey 19:42, 17 December 2005 (UTC)

Also, I would just like to say that I was blown away by "Black Horse & The Cherry Tree" the first and second times I saw it live, on "Later" and The Hootenanny on New Year's Eve. It was great how she could play three guitar parts and at least two vocal at once. Also JP Godfrey 22:09, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

The Scots *think* the Welsh are as petty as they are - but no. British is a normal term for anyone who comes from Great BRITAIN. Northern Irish people on the other hand...DON'T come from Great Britain, so I doubt they use that term. It's perfectly reasonable to say She's a British musician from Fife, Scotland just as it would be perfectly reasonable to say The Arctic Monkeys are a British band from Sheffield, England. I wish all the countries in The UNITED kingdom could just frakking UNITE instead of thinking that "independance" is more important than cooperation and peace and being an united country. Yeah, Scotland has wonderful history, incredible culture and absolutely stunning scenery. So do England, Wales and Northern Ireland. So does New York but you don't see them trying to become an independant country from the US do you? The states in America are fine with the idea of being different from one another but still one country. Why can't we be? It's pathetic. - Elin
 * This discussion is growing increasingly offtopic. You're also glossing over about a thousand years of Scottish history.  If you'll also remember, there have been states that have tried to leave.  There was that whole Civil War thing; Texas was on the fence for quite a while, and more recently, despite not having a terribly large following, independence movements in Hawaii and Alaska have gained traction.  Four states do not technically consider themselves as such, and refer to themselves as commonwealths (MA, PA, KY, and VA), which essentially declares that they're only part of the union due to popular demand.  But I digress.....   If nothing else, you might as well state that she's Scottish, as it provides a more specific geographic and cultural origin than simply saying she's British.  Virtually all English-speaking wikipedians should be at least vaguely aware of the fact  that Scotland is part of Great Britain and the UK.  This is a pointless argument.  --Orang55 (talk) 22:02, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Actually, the commonwealth title is similar to the Kingdom of Fife. Romantic titles, layovers from earlier days.

-24.149.196.112 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 05:29, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

Katharine McPhee cover
It's best to just simply state that McPhee covered the song. Opinions on that performance without substantial documentation aren't acceptable. Can the claim that the McPhee performance improved sales for Tunstall be verified? Somebody insists on repeatedly inserting the POV that the McPhee performance was "poor." Again, highly subjective and contrary to what the American Idol judges said about it. MahlerFan 14:52, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

Can some admin or other put the brakes on user 70.110.40.216? It's getting ridiculous. I'm not here to pimp Katharine McPhee or anything. It needs to be just a statement of fact--she covered it, not she "covered it wonderfully" or something. The AI judges' comments aren't even appropriate in the context of this article--you can find it at the Katharine McPhee article. It's interesting how immature people keep putting the same POV things on articles over and over again, and then accuse the reverters of being obsessive fanboys or something. The spelling of the name is now correct, in response to the vandal's baiting.

MahlerFan 00:24, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

KT stands for.....?
At present, the article isn't consistant, with the 2nd sentence in "Personal life" saying that it stands for nothing, but the first sentence opf the "Name" section saying that it's her initials. Anyone got the real scoop? --Badger151 05:20, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

Yes. Say Katie.Now say KT. Its an abrvation I gess.Hope that helps.§  Cara.D.M. 03:35, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

"kill trees" ?!? WTF?


 * It stands for Kate Tunstall, at least according to the radio show I was listening to... 72.80.182.254 21:34, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
 * She also says KT to stop her comparison to katie melua172.207.137.120 21:26, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

New Single?
Why is Miniature Disasters listed as a single?

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Live Earth
It's probably not worth noting in the article but there was a discussion at the top of this page relating to this. KT was introduced as an 'English' singer by the actor on before her (can't recall his name). Despite coming from St Andrews, Fife and Edinburgh and having a Scottish accent she comes from England now. Andrewjd 22:47, 7 July 2007 (UTC)

"Hold On" UK Chart position hmm, who put "15" there? it peaked at #21.. sad, but it's correct

SNL?
Was KT Tunstall on SNL tonight? I tuned into it during the middle of it, and I thought it may have been her, but I wasn't 100% sure. Rktur 06:26, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

live performances
What is going on in the section that starts with "On January 13, 2008..."? It rambles quite a bit (for example- "as with folks from across the pond often poking fun at herself,"- huh?) and, as an outsider who knows nothing about KT Tunstall, I have no clue what that bit is trying to say at all. I would fix it myself, but like I said, I don't know what it's about. --02:13, 15 January 2008 (UTC)Lizzysama (talk)

Has whoever wrote "She got such a long standing ovation at the end that she came back out and played three more songs" ever been to a concert before? Do they know what an encore is? --TomFriend08 (talk) 19:50, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

I cleaned it up a ton yesterday. --Snaxe/fow (talk) 04:52, 21 July 2008 (UTC)

Vegetarianism and pictures
First of all, shouldn't her vegetarianism be mentioned there somewhere? And secondly, why has the picture of her in the infobox been reused below. And why have the second Glastonbury picture that's from the first one? :\

Scottish or another language
Does she still talk scottish? Or was she just born in scotland and went to another country and leard there language. --78.148.78.86 (talk) 12:54, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Scottish is not a language! In Scotland they speak English. Pullshapes (talk) 01:03, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

nope scots is a language. so is gaelic (of which you will find more native speakers in scotland). so she could speak scots or gaelic besides english.

--24.210.221.242 (talk) 01:25, 30 December 2008 (UTC)

Scottish is a dialect, not a language. Gaelic however is a language, but few people speak it on a regular basis nowadays - which is sad. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 143.234.44.225 (talk) 09:35, 24 November 2009 (UTC)