Talk:KWCH-DT/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Mike Christie (talk · contribs) 17:01, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

I'll review this. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 17:01, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

Images are appropriately licensed. Earwig finds an overlap with this page, but it's a Wikipedia mirror. Sources are reliable. I'll do some spotchecks shortly. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 20:52, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
 * "recognized that much of its viewing audience would be in the air capital": what does "air capital" mean?
 * Not required for GA, but a map showing some of the towns mentioned would help the reader understand the regional expansion -- you mention Ensign, Dodge City, Garden City, Goodland, and Hays, in addition to Wichita and Hutchinson, but I imagine most readers, like me, will have no idea of the relative locations.
 * "In 1963, the station activated a new transmitter": suggest making this "In 1963, KTVH activated a new transmitter" since we've talked about several other stations since the last mention of KVTH.
 * "would give the Gaylord interests too much media power": what does "Gaylord interests" refer to?
 * "Hearings were set for November, but by that time, the sale contract neared its expiration on December 31": suggest "Hearings were set for November, but this was near the expiration date of the sales contract on December 31".
 * "In response, channel 12 purchased the Wichita studio site outright after leasing it for 20 years": suggest "after having leased it for 20 years".
 * Fixed Sammi Brie  (she/her • t • c) 23:09, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Since the parent company was not renamed Cowles until 1982 -- and you introduce the name change at the start of the "The Look of a Leader" section -- shouldn't we refer to the company as the Minneapolis Star and Tribune Company rather than Cowles for events prior to that date?
 * Fixed, sorry for missing a few examples. Sammi Brie  (she/her • t • c) 23:09, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Can we get a link or footnote to define "failing station waiver"?
 * "KWCH operates the high school sports vertical Catch It Kansas": what does "vertical" mean here?

Spotchecks: Normally I'd fail an article with three out of three failed spotchecks, but I know your work is usually very carefully cited, so I think I must have been unlucky in checking some bad apples. I'll check some more; do you want to run through the article and look for other source-text issues to be on the safe side before I go through? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 21:02, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
 * FN 46 cites "In April 2011, KWCH began producing a weeknight Spanish-language newscast at 10:00 p.m. for KDCU-DT, which was produced for the remainder of the JSA with Entravision." I don't think this can cover the second half, as it's only the announcement of the launch.
 * FN 27 cites "Among Smith's first actions were to appoint part-owner Sandy DiPasquale, who later became the CEO of Newport Television, as president and general manager and to change the call letters on the western and central Kansas stations to designations that incorporated "KBS"." This doesn't cite DiPasquale's later career.
 * FN 11 cites "KAYS-TV purchased the financially struggling Goodland station, by then known as KLOE-TV, and combined the two as one operation. Further, KAYS-TV joined CBS on November 1, 1962." This doesn't seem correctly cited either -- the source is dated August 1962 so it can't cover a November event, and I don't see mention of KLOE or Goodland.
 * Looks like you must have moved the old source rather than added to it? There's just one citation for the first sentence, and now it covers KLOE and Goodland, but not the other information in the first half of the sentence.  And "joined CBS on September 1, 1962" is still cited to the August source; I think you have to say "announced" or "reported" or something like that to avoid the problem. And neither source says KAYS-TV purchased KWHT-TV as far as I can see -- the second source does mention KWHT-TV in a way that makes it clear KAYS-TV owns it but that's all.  Mike Christie (talk - contribs -  library) 22:52, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Readded the source there, . It gets weird because we have a lot of events at once. The August purchase, the call sign change, KAYS to CBS... I've tried to reword this in a way that makes more sense! Sammi Brie  (she/her • t • c) 23:09, 29 April 2023 (UTC)


 * @Mike Christie You managed to find a different error: I wrote November when it was September 1. A lot happened at once, and there was also a call sign change in there amidst all of this (you missed the KWHT-TV reference).
 * The Entravision JSA ended without fanfare. (Entravision brought KDCU's operation in house and runs it mostly from Denver.) There is absolutely no media coverage of the newscast being discontinued, so it's a bit awkward to handle.
 * I've struck the point since you removed it but I think if you made it "In April 2011, KWCH began producing a weeknight Spanish-language newscast at 10:00 p.m. for KDCU-DT" that would work; you're not obligated to mention when it ended. But it's also fine as is. Mike Christie (talk - contribs -  library) 22:52, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Fixed the Sandy DiPasquale issue by adding a second reference. Also fixed or modified all of the copy items. A map of Kansas would actually be useful, and I will look at possibly including a map of the KBS transmitters (I've learned how to make such maps only recently). Sammi Brie  (she/her • t • c) 21:53, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I just added a map. This is only the third one I've made, and working with these JSONs takes a bit of trial and error when there is more than one polygon. Sammi Brie  (she/her • t • c) 22:49, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Can we get labels, and some of the town names in there too? Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 22:52, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't have a lot of experience with the map side. The nice thing is you can click on the GeoJSON and get a full view overlaid on an OSM layer. But I'm not sure how some of the obvious features can be added; things like labels and zooming seem to be controlled by the size of the frame and zoom level. I'd have loved to add color (and tried to do so on attempt #2 in another page), but Wikipedia seems to force simplestyle on maps. Sammi Brie  (she/her • t • c) 22:59, 29 April 2023 (UTC)

Replies and strikes above. I'll hold off on the second set of spotchecks till everything else is resolved. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 22:52, 29 April 2023 (UTC)
 * Everything above now looks good. I'll do another round of spotchecks shortly. Mike Christie (talk - contribs -  library) 01:26, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

Second spotchecks
A couple of questions above. Mike Christie (talk - contribs - library) 01:54, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
 * FN 53 cites "David Bloom, reporter (1988–1990)": verified.
 * FN 4 cites "The first test pattern went out on June 24, 1953": verified.
 * FN 8 cites "KTVH was the first television station to open that covered Wichita, the state's largest city, and recognized that much of its viewing audience would be there. In August 1954, channel 12 opened a satellite studio in Wichita's Lassen Hotel." Almost all verified, but there's nothing I can see about their expectations for their viewing audience.
 * FN 41 cites "The partnership expanded in 2011 with the addition of a local newscast." Verified.
 * FN 51 cites "For the rest of 2011, KSAS and KSCW carried simultaneous and separate newscasts before KSNW assumed the KSAS news production contract at the start of 2012." The source verifies part of this, but it's dated July 2011 so it couldn't cover the change at the start of 2012 anyway.
 * FN 34 cites "Over the decade that followed, KWCH rose to the top of the local news ratings, first in the Wichita metro and then in the full market beginning in 1991." All verified except for saying that they got to first in the Wichita metro area before they got there in the full market -- did I miss the relevant bit of the source?
 * FN 25 cites "The rumors became reality at the end of July when Cowles agreed to sell KTVH for $12 million to Ross Beach and Robert E. Schmidt of Hays, owners of KAYS and KLOE." Verified.


 * @Mike Christie Removed the item in fn 8. Added some refs around fn 51 to bolster; added a cite to the October source and a new one from late December.
 * Item in fn 34 is in the last paragraph on page 6A. When he arrived in 1989, the station's newscast was ranked No. 1 at 6 p.m. and 10 p.m. in Wichita, but it didn't lead statewide. About three years ago, KWCH began leading both in the metropolitan area and the state in all newscasts. Sammi Brie  (she/her • t • c) 04:25, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
 * OK on FN 34. The other fixes look good; I checked a couple more just to be on the safe side.  Passing. Mike Christie (talk - contribs -  library) 10:10, 30 April 2023 (UTC)