Talk:Kaṇāda

Merge notice
I'd wait for comments till the 4th of November before carrying the merger. --Gurubrahma 07:51, 27 October 2005 (UTC)

Kanada
Kanada was not just a sage or phylosopher but was a scientist too. A lot can be added to the article.

Precise Dates for Kanada's Life?
Does anyone have any more precise dates for the life of this philosopher?

It would seem to be very important to know more exactly when he lived (and, ideally, when precisely he developed his theories), especially if the article is going to claim that Kanada's atomism predated that of Leucippus and Democritus? It is a bit "unfair" to argue for who discovered something first, when one of the "contestants" (as it were) might have lived at any time during a span of 400 years.

Also, the article seems to suggest (or maybe I am just reading too much between the lines) that Kanada's atomism may have travelled from India all the way to Greece. If this is so, then it raises the very strong possibility that Leucippus and Democritus actually borrowed their atomist theory from Kanada. However, if Kanada lived in the 2nd century BCE (rather in the 6th century BCE), the situation is potentially reversed completely - the atomst theory o.                 f Leucippus and Democritus may have travelled from Greece into India along with the the armies of Alexander the Great; therefore, it is rather Kanada who would have borrowed his atomism from the Greeks.

This is why I say that getting more precise dates for his life is very important. If precise dates are simply unavailable in the existing historical evidence, then it would be best not to *speculate* as to who discovered atomism first or who borrowed from whose theory.IonNerd (talk) 03:17, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

I am agree, and the fact that he is born in western India..... perhaps in Mauryan empire or in an Indo-greek kingdom. Even so, he would be an important exponent of the common ancient atomic philosophy he would be not the founder but an important exponent as the latin Lucrezio Caro in the western side and others. If it is true the VI century BCE (but why only a century before the Greeks ?) he becomes a founder of a national (cultural) indian school that could influence the greeks (excluding that concept of Atom derived from Arché or from Phoenician world as some greeks claimed to see Mochus of Sidon).

But are only the greeks who travel ? ;-)

Howewer there are some differences with Greek atomism. I have other questions that may be useful to understand

In what language are composed the sutras of Kanada? In what language are written the sutras of Kanada? In which writing system ? When the texts are probably composed ? When the texts became written ?

Andriolo --84.222.74.121 (talk) 14:33, 12 January 2011 (UTC)


 * It is impossible to date these teaching because starting with Max Muller the whole attempt of the Christian Orientalists is to make everything as late as possible and dependent on Greek or even Christian origin. For example they tried to prove that Krsna was derived from Christ because of similar early pastimes. Kanada is from much much eralier time torards the end of the 4th millenia BC but there is no way of dating him. Even Muller after dating the Vedas to 1200 BC was forced to admit on being challenged that he had no idea when the Vedas were composed.


 * BTW if memory serves me well Democritus was in Alexander's army and picked up many ideas from the locals. By Euro-centrics will say that he spread his philosophy to the locals.106.51.19.129 (talk) 08:52, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
 * actually atomism was initially proposed by charvaka school of atomism and that school easily predates the greek school by several hundred years, that school predates buddhism, jains also proposed theory on atomism, this is admitted in the article Atomism, so rest assured, this philosophy did move from india to greece 115.135.118.112 (talk) 05:12, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
 * its wrong since charavaka school of atomism didn't predates Greek school as there is no evidence of explaining the theory of atomism before Leucippus and the transmission theory is simply bogus Cuando de hyiopi (talk) 09:05, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
 * dear anonymous user, people like you only spread indocentric views on maharishi kanada as there is no proof that he influenced atomism in ancient Greece.Atomism as a concept was first developed in ancient Greece by Leucippus and in many journals like Stanford encyclopedia and brittanica encyclopedia it is given that kanada was born between 3rd to 4th century or 2nd century BCE.So please keep your indocentric views in your mind since this is Wikipedia an, encyclopedia source. Cuando de hyiopi (talk) 09:22, 7 April 2023 (UTC)

Link Broken
Reference 7 is broken —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iyer.arvind.sundaram (talk • contribs) 13:18, 1 June 2010 (UTC)

Odd
The first line looks very odd. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.65.5.186 (talk) 16:00, 8 February 2013 (UTC)

There is one song in Bhojpuri jhulani ka rang sanch hamar piya...... which talk about our body is made up of five bhootas....I think all sages in old indian systems used to write in poetic form llike shlokas... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.79.164.193 (talk) 17:31, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

O "Kanada"?

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The result of the move request was: moved to Kanada (philosopher) and the dab page move to Kanada. There'll be some links to sort out! Favonian (talk) 20:31, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

Kanada → ? – (undecided page title) As the hatnote on the article page says, "Kanada" can refer to "Canada" in multiple languages. Besides, the sage is relatively obscure nowadays; to this end this page should be moved and, if possible, "Kanada" be made a redirect to "Canada". &#60;&#60;&#60; SOME GADGET GEEK &#62;&#62;&#62; (talk) 19:48, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Oppose – The hatnote suffices in this case. The only language we care about is English, and in the English "Kanada" for "Canada" is a typo. A person actually named "Kanada" takes priority over a typo for "Canada". RGloucester  — ☎ 20:28, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
 * You're being charitable to call it a typo as the c is nowhere near the k on major keyboard layouts. I'd call it an illiteracy. —  AjaxSmack   01:58, 4 April 2015 (UTC)

Support move to Kanada (Hindu sage) Kanada (philosopher), Weak support redirect to Canada on condition that hatnote be added to Canada giving notification of ~Kanada (navigation page) or of Kanada (Hindu sage) and Kannada Indian language. Kannada is first language to 38 million Indians as estimated in 2007.
 * The current form of the hatnote on the article seems to me to be intrusive to content. I think that the navigation option is as respectful to Kanada as any other option.
 * I've edited back from a suggestion to directly rewrite Kanada as a navigation page. My reason for my moderate change of heart is related to the large number of other language versions of en Canada presented as ~"Kanada": ab Канада ace Kanada af Kanada als Kanada am ካናዳ ang Canada an Canadá arc ܩܢܕܐ ar كندا arz كندا ast Canadá as কানাডা av Канада ay Kanada az Kanada bar Kanada bat_smg Kanada ba Канада bcl Kanada be_x_old Канада be Канада bg Канада bi Kanada bm Kanada bn কানাডা bo ཁ་ན་ཌ། bpy কানাডা br Kanada bs Kanada bxr Канада ca Canadà cdo Gă-nā-dâi ceb Canada ce Канада chr ᎨᎾᏓ chy Canada ckb کەنەدا co Canadà crh Kanada cr ᑳᓇᑖ csb Kanada cs Kanada cu Канада cv Канада cy Canada da Canada de Kanada diq Kanada dsb Kanada dv ކެނެޑާ dz ཀེ་ན་ཌ་ ee Canada el Καναδάς en Canada eo Kanado es Canadá et Kanada eu Kanada ext Canadá fa کانادا fiu_vro Kanada fi Kanada fo Kanada frp Canada frr Kanada fr Canada fur Canadà fy Kanada gag Kanada gan 加拿大 ga Ceanada gd Canada gl Canadá gn Kanatã gu કેનેડા gv Yn Chanadey hak Kâ-nâ-thai ha Kanada haw Kanakā he קנדה hif Canada hi कनाडा hr Kanada hsb Kanada ht Kanada hu Kanada hy Կանադա ia Canada id Kanada ie Canada ig Kánada ik Kanada ilo Kanada io Kanada is Kanada it Canada iu ᑲᓇᑕ ja カナダ jbo kadnygu'e jv Kanada kaa Kanada kab Kanada ka კანადა kbd Канадэ ki Canada kk Канада kl Canada km កាណាដា kn ಕೆನಡಾ ko 캐나다 krc Канада ku Kanada kv Канада kw Kanada ky Канада lad Kanada la Canada lb Kanada lez Канада lij Canada li Canada lmo Canada ln Kanadá lo ປະເທດການາດາ ltg Kanada lt Kanada lv Kanāda mdf Канада mg Kanada mhr Канаде mi Kānata mk Канада ml കാനഡ mn Канад mrj Канада mr कॅनडा ms Kanada mt Kanada my ကနေဒါနိုင်ငံ mzn کانادا nah Canada nap Canadà na Kanada nds_nl Kannede nds Kanada ne क्यानाडा new क्यानाडा nl Canada nn Canada nov Kanada no Canada nrm Cannada nv Deeteel Bikéyah oc Canadà om Kanaadaa or କାନାଡ଼ା os Канадæ pag Canada pam Canada pap Canada pa ਕੈਨੇਡਾ pcd Canada pdc Kanadaa pih Kaneda pl Kanada pms Canadà pnb کینیڈا ps کاناډا pt Canadá qu Kanatá rm Canada rmy Kanada rn Kanada roa_rup Canada roa_tara Canada ro Canada rue Канада ru Канада rw Kanada sah Канаада sa केनडा scn Canadà sco Canadae sc Canada se Kanáda sg Kanadäa sh Kanada simple Canada sk Kanada sl Kanada sn Canada so Kanada sq Kanadaja srn Kanadakondre sr Канада ss IKhanada stq Kanada su Kanada sv Kanada sw Kanada szl Kanada ta கனடா tet Kanadá te కెనడా tg Канада th ประเทศแคนาดา tk Kanada tl Canada tpi Kanada tr Kanada ts Canada tt Канада tw Kanada ty Tanata ug كانادا uk Канада ur کینیڈا uz Kanada vec Canada vep Kanad vi Canada vls Canada vo Kanadän war Kanada wa Canada (payis) wo Kanadaa wuu 加拿大 xal Канадин Орн xmf კანადა yi קאנאדע yo Kánádà zea Canada zh_classical 加拿大 zh_min_nan Canada zh_yue 加拿大 zh 加拿大 zu IKhanada
 * I did an videos search on Kanada, didn't see any results about a Hindu sage but found lots of foreign language contents on in/of Canada topics and Indian culture stuff.
 * O (jolly good) Kanada. GregKaye 23:38, 3 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Oppose per WP:UE. The hatnote is right in the face of readers for those who might be confused.  —  AjaxSmack   01:58, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Yes User talk:AjaxSmack on that rationale, agree, but is this Kanada 66+% of all book hits? In ictu oculi (talk) 06:24, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Alright, I'm not opposed to a move to Kanada (philosopher) only if it is replaced with the disambiguation page (Kanada (disambiguation), i.e. Kanada should not redirect to Canada. —  AjaxSmack  14:35, 4 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Move to Kanada (philosopher) and replace with the disambiguation page Kanada (disambiguation) at the base name -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 04:23, 4 April 2015 (UTC)


 * Move to Kanada (philosopher) and replace with the disambiguation page Kanada (disambiguation) at the base name as 65. says, and add the Nazi barracks to the dab page. see books "Kanada was" In ictu oculi (talk) 06:23, 4 April 2015 (UTC)


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Atom
The atoms of Kanada is the size of small visible particles. Calling it atomism is a stretch. ChandlerMinh (talk) 16:35, 11 July 2023 (UTC)

Newton's laws
I have removed the section on Newton's laws because they were unsubstantiated by the references. Raziman T V (talk) 09:45, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
 * The last two references you gave say nothing about force and motion the way you claim. And I could not find the verse translations in the other two sources. So please provide chapter and verse number -- Raziman T V (talk) 13:47, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * Read chapter 10, and revert it . I hope you're comfortable in Devnagari Lipi like me.
 * https://archive.org/details/MSDP_vaisheshika-siddhantanam-ganitiya-paddhatya-vimarsha-by-narayan-gopal-dongre-pub/page/n94/mode/1up Magadhahistorian (talk) 14:09, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
 * But that is just a commentary. The text does not attribute it to Kanada. Where is it in any of original translations? -- Raziman T V (talk) 14:34, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

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