Talk:Kaede Fuyou

Changed some data in the last part for Kaede which stated that Kaede refused to help Rin moved in when it was shown that she was busy cleaning up his room back at her house. People need to stop fabricating false information and instead follow what the show gives.

-Jackson

I pretty much rewrote this article because half the content didn't even have anything to do with Kaede's story. Separated the article by section of Kaede's character development. --Cless Alvein 06:27, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

Fictional Psychopath
Maybe some would say I did wrong, but I deleted the "Fictional Psychopaths" category from the article. The reason is that Kaede is NOT a Psychopath in the clinical sense of the word, neither in the judicial sense. Psychopaths have no regard for feelings of others, neither their own feelings or guilt for what they have done wrong. This is clearly NOT the case for Kaede, as she clearly has feelings, as she IS guilty for what she has done to Rin and is worried for what he can feel towards other girls and herself (as when she feels sad because she thinks that Rin hasn't forgiven her for all the bad things she did him in the past.) Also, she loves Rin, a thing said that psychopaths are unable to do. Maybe she DID act very disturbed in some scenes, but she just had a mental breakdown while realizing how she was loosing Rin. If this is not convincing, check the Psychopathy article.

Link storage
http://www.getchu.com/pc/rank.phtml?rank_flag=7 Maybe use that poll sometime. --SeizureDog 11:13, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

Original Research
There is currently a long passage in the article marked "An Analysis of Kaede's Psyche Through The Series". I am completely, absolutely sure that it is original research, but have yet to delete it for reasons detailed later. You see, this is not the first time something of this nature has cropped up for Kaede...it used a different title ("The Different Aspects of Kaede"), and the content itself was slightly different, but it was Original Research just as much as this one. The thing is, just deleting it isn't any good, since it does summarise things (to a degree). In fact, my recommendation would be: divide it up by episode number or plot arc rather than the current (unsourced) "stages", clean it up a bit (maybe do some citing, eh?), and put it under the same heading as "In the anime"...basically, making it into a proper explanation of her role in the anime, rather than deleting it all. I have yet to see the anime, so I can't help much in terms of retitling, but I'm at least willing to assist with grammar, spelling, and formatting, if need be. Does this sound like a good plan, or should we just remove the OR after all?--Tally Solleni 02:02, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I've always wanted to kill it, but didn't want to deal with the hassle of reverters complaining that I'm just removing content. So go ahead.--SeizureDog 04:03, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm trying to clean it up. I added a "game" section, messed with some grammar, and am planning to condense the irrelevant parts.  But maybe it would be best to just merge the whole thing into a "List of Shuffle! characters" or something?  Looking over it, it seems like the article has absolutely no out-of-universe information at present.  And if the characters of Kanon- a popular visual novel which has received two anime adaptations- are not notable enough for separate articles, I fail to see why the characters of Shuffle!- also a popular visual novel with two anime adaptations- are any more notable.  Both anime have been licensed, and none of the games have been translated, so they're roughly on equal ground.  I'll be taking this to the main talk page for Shuffle! soon, but I thought mentioning it here would prevent unnecessary effort for other users.--Tally Solleni (talk) 21:40, 18 December 2007 (UTC)