Talk:Kaitlyn (wrestler)

Photo
I think there should be a photo in the "In Wrestling" section of Kaitlyn performing the Lotus Lock on Maxine — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hemmeband17 (talk • contribs) 12:26, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Requested move

 * The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 

The result of the proposal was no consensus. --BDD (talk) 18:31, 30 August 2013 (UTC)

Kaitlyn (wrestler) → Kaitlyn – Currently, Kaitlyn redirects to the Caitlin name. However, I believe the wrestler is the most popular subject such that it can over-ride the re-direct. In the last month Kaitlyn (wrestler) (the wrestler with ring name Kaitlyn, no last name) has been viewed nearly 100,000 times, but Caitlin less than 7000 times. From Caitlin, the only other Kaitlyn on Wikipedia with an article, Kaitlyn Maher, also has been viewed less than 7000 times in the past month. Therefore as by far the most popular topic, Kaitlyn (wrestler) does not need the disambiguation. This will also help lead to far more direct linking. Starship.paint (talk) 10:21, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Support as nominator. Starship.paint (talk) 10:24, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Oppose - Caitlyn indicates K instead of C is fairly common. In ictu oculi (talk) 11:07, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Oppose per IIO, it's a common name -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 12:18, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * For a supposedly "common" name, the article Caitlin links to over 60 versions of the name, and the "Kaitlyn" version occurs only 3 times. Two have been mentioned above... and the last one has no article to her name: "Kaitlyn Fairchild, fictional character in the trilogy Dark Visions Trilogy by L. J. Smith" Starship.paint (talk) 12:44, 23 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Support --1966batfan (talk) 12:21, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Oppose. "Caitlyn" and "Kaitlyn" are easily confused, especially in speech. Insofar as the dabpage is at Caitlyn, the variant Kaitlyn ought to point to the same place. 168.12.253.66 (talk) 13:38, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Just pointing out that the dab page is at "Caitlin" and not "Caitlyn" as IIO and 168 has mentioned. Starship.paint (talk) 09:28, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Sorry, you're right. I even knew this, and still just copied the spelling from above. The point remains the same, however. 168.12.253.66 (talk) 16:51, 24 August 2013 (UTC)


 * Support. Look at the numbers. 99304 hits in the last 30 days for "Kaitlyn (wrestler)", compared to 3544 for "Kaitlyn", and 6537 for "Caitlin". There's no comparison. Readers are best served with this article being at "Kaitlyn".--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 01:06, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Support - per nom and Brianann MacAmhlaidh.LM2000 (talk) 01:49, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Support. This is an unusual spelling variation that is not widely used. People who are familiar enough with Kaitlyn Maher to search for her using this unusual spelling will most likely also know her surname, so the usefulness of the page for disambiguation is limited. I'd support moving the page and adding DAB links to Caitlin and Kaitlyn Maher]. McPhail (talk) 20:07, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Oppose - She is not the overwhelmingly most significant person named "Kaitlyn", it is better to just leave it with dab (wrestler). Using one months page views is not a good sample of overall popularity or significance.  STATic  message me!  20:28, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * OpposeThe first name and all its variations are far more generally popular, and should remain the primary topic (both for its listing of people with the name, and the history of it). Might be a bit CRYSTALBALLish, but I don't see this Kaitlyn lasting much longer in WWE. When she's gone, she probably won't be able to use the name. Meanwhile, all the Kaitlyn/Caitlin/Katelynns will still keep theirs. Like said above, many times the spelling is unclear, and readers should be able to find anyone they only remember as sounding like Kaitlyn (including this one). InedibleHulk (talk) 22:42, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Oppose moderately common variant spelling of a common given name. Undisambiguated name should just point to the article on the given name, as it currently does. To do otherwise is WP:RECENTISM, as the wrestler's notability is only a recent happening. oknazevad (talk) 05:24, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Kaitlyn Maher is not the only Kaitlyn with an article as the nom says - there's Kaitlyn Dever and Kaitlyn Weaver, to name a few. These people appear to also have quite a bit of notability. So, I oppose moving.  Taylor Trescott  - my talk + my edits 17:56, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
 * Oppose --The article title is right (fame and traffic numbers can-- and will-- change) what needs tinkering is the redirect. It should go to a DAB for people named Kaitlyn, not to the Caitlyn (name) article.-- — Keithbob •  Talk  • 19:23, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
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Protection
Can this page be protected so only certain people can edit it? There's been so much false info & vandalism on this page it's ridiculous. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DJ8946 (talk • contribs) 18:54, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
 * I just requested page protection a few weeks ago but it expired. Feel free to write in your own request here.LM2000 (talk) 02:48, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

Signature moves
I note that there are currently 22 listed "signature moves." Signature moves are those that are either created by the individual, or that are virtually analogous to the subject. It is not possible to have 22 signature moves, could someone who knows this wrestler trim this back to, say, 10 or less with a note not to add without discussion?''' Flat Out   let's discuss it   02:24, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
 * I disagree with your definition. In terms of professional wrestling, I believe that a "staple of the user's repertoire" is more suitable. It is certainly possible to have 22 signature moves if the wrestler uses all 22 moves often enough. But, I agree with your post in spirit, trimming is definitely needed here. In terms of what is a signature move, if a source explicitly says the move is a signature, that's good enough. But sources don't always mention that. So, that's why WP:PW has a general guideline that given the easy availability of sourcing for WWE wrestlers in terms of TV/PPV reports, that if a wrestler on four occasions uses a move, it can be considered as a signature. I'll be applying this rule while combing through the list. Starship.paint (talk) 07:32, 9 January 2014 (UTC)


 * Couldn't agree more, Flat Out. The signature move bullshit is out of hand across Wikipedia. I'm still not personally OK with the idea that four sources not calling a move a signature move makes it one (it's basically the opposite of WP:V), but I did agree to that compromise and have to stick by it, no matter how insanely long the types of titles on sources Starship may find will be.


 * As far as explicit sources, Kaitlyn has a dropkick and crossbody block from WrestlingData, nothing at all from OWW and a spear from Cagematch. InedibleHulk (talk) 07:51, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
 * Alright I'm done with the moves. Starship.paint (talk) 11:18, 10 January 2014 (UTC)

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