Talk:Kaká/Archive 1

A Fellow Native's insight
As a Brazilian I am aware of some of Kaká's characteristics which people in England and the USA are not exposed to. For instance, Kaká has quite a rep with the ladies in Brazil for his looks.

I was wondering if there is any place in the article for additions that pertain to obscure snippets like that; that pertain to his success and person but not necessarily to his carreer. Gukarma 00:06, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Well, as long as it's a neutral point of view then I don't see why it can't be. Kingjeff 00:12, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Accident
Is it just me, or is there way too much commentary on his accident? Why should his article have a discussion on whether faith in God can cure injuries?? Aabha (talk) 11:20, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

Vandalism
Why has the vandalism on this page been so overlooked? Kaka's name had been replaced with variations on the word "anus" several times... Astrochris 201.37.66.155 01:39, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

Marriage?
This was posted on the page as a title, "KAKA IS MARRIED TO NANCY MEDINA A MEXICAN GIRL WHOS 17TH YEARS OLD HE DIVORCED HIS LAST MARRIAGED". I don't know if this is true or not, and even if it is, it should not be in all caps listed as a section title. If this information can be verified, someone should write it back into the article. Emmyceru 20:37, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
 * I've been looking in Google at both English and Portuguese websites, and can find nothing related to Kaka and anyone named Nancy Medina. Searching for Kaka and "casamento" (wedding) yields plenty of articles about a wedding to the woman  listed in the wikipedia article (http://ofuxico.uol.com.br/Materias/Noticias/noticia_7565.htm)... So yeah, I would just guess this is pointless vandalism, which I've removed. Emmyceru 20:46, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

Why 'Rodrigo Izecson Santos Leite' redirects to Kaká
Why 'Rodrigo Izecson Santos Leite' redirects to Kaká? It's his brother, Digao's name. It should be redirect to Digao.


 * Ok, redirect it. Kingjeff 15:56, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I have made a mistake. Digao's name is Rodrigo Ifrano dos Santos Leite, while kaka's name is Ricardo Izecson dos Santos Leite. I have redirected it to Leite. KMB-ATE1 22:20, 3 September, 2006 (GMT +8)

Kaká's Christianity
Despite being part of the Born-again Christians group, this article is strangely mum about Kaká's Christianity. The most it does is allude to it in the part about his injury and the fact that he stayed a virgin until he was married. (The part about his virginity isn't an obvious allusion, though, and may very well confuse some people....) I don't see how the article can be complete without it -- it's obvious that it's a big part of his life. Wasn't he known for wearing shirts that said stuff like "I belong to Jesus" that he would show off when he scored goals (before FIFA passed that no-shirtless celebrations rule)?

I'm going to add something about his Christianity. ~ Hairouna 01:28, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
 * Is it just me, or is Kaka's trivia somewhat sarcastic, he seems to do everything but eat the bible and its all he does, surely one or two triva is enough, its so repedative that it feels sarcastic, does anyone else agree? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.168.160.96 (talk • contribs) 10:31, February 21, 2007
 * I agree completely. I thought it was strange that they mentioned it so much. Doesn't he do anything that doesn't pertain to the bible? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.11.31.67 (talk • contribs) 17:41, May 12, 2007

Kaká Converted to Islam?
So we've recently been flooded with changes in the article saying that Kaká converted to Islam. They were so numerous that I wondered if they were the persistent effort of a few people in the same place to make that change, but ip lookups suggested against this. I checked kakafans.net to see if they had anything on it, and the webmistress there reported that she received a lot of emails asking if it's true. From the comments section of the post where she said that, it came out that it has been reported in the Arabic world Kaká converted.

But that left the question: if this is true, why haven't the Italian and Brazilian media pick it up (if not the English)? I did Google news searches to see if they did but we just missed it. Searches in Brazilian Portuguese revealed nothing, but I found two articles for Italian, only one of which I could access. That one is from goal.com's Italian section. After some "reading" and rereading, applying the bit of Spanish I know (they say the languages are close), and consulting altavista.com and freetranslation.com (the latter seems better at Italian to English translations), I think I have a good idea of what the article is saying.

The title reads something like


 * "Kaka is Muslim." The Brazilian: "It isn't true."

The article says that Milan released an interview (or report?) in which Kaká denied conversion to Islam, saying that Jesus is the greatest champion he knows. It then apparently goes on to say that a conversion would've been "sensational" and the rumour was already being welcomed in the Arabic Muslim world.

Perhaps if the changes persist we can put something in the main article, at least for a while, saying that it was only a rumour that has been denied by Kaká himself. ~ Hairouna 03:05, 16 October 2006 (UTC)


 * We should just delete those info if they can't give a proper reference. Anyway who would bother about a footballer's religion. ~ Martin tamb 16 October 2006
 * Lotsa people, quite evidently, and possibly with very good reason. And I suppose we can see if the changes letup.... ~ Hairouna 21:21, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
 * Well you can see, that all the user that add those information are not a regular wiki editor, nor they have username, most of them are just random ip adress. Therefore, i think those edit can't be considered true enough as a rumour. Martin tamb 17 October 2006
 * You don't think it's a real rumour? The Italian article I linked to says it is a real rumour (but not a true one). ~ Hairouna 23:25, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
 * the conversion is a rumour on thursday 26 october kaka was online on acmilan.com and he was chatting with fans they asked him about his favourite music he answered that it was gospel and they asked him about his motto in life he answered that he has two "god is faithful"and "i belong to jesus" he was even asked about his rituals before matches he answered that he prays and reads the bible http://www.rickykaka.com/en/index.php?function=show_all&no=120 so the conversion was just a rumour i even heard that he denied it and said that he will always be an evangelist christian as jesus is the one who carries the message of peace he said this reply in la gazzetta italian sports newspaper —Preceding unsigned comment added by Whoiswho88 (talk • contribs) 16:51, October 27, 2006

Semi protection
Maybe this should become a semi protected page since this muslim thing won't go away. Kingjeff 15:52, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

Aye. How do we do that though? ~ Hairouna 22:11, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

There is probably some page where this type of stuff is brought up at. Kingjeff 02:43, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Semi Protection is granted by an administrator. So lets hope this goes away soon. Kingjeff 20:28, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Ah, it's protected now. Did you request it? ~ Hairouna 22:58, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

yup. Kingjeff 23:14, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Where? ~ Hairouna 00:48, 22 October 2006 (UTC)