Talk:Kalākaua's 1874–75 state visit to the United States

Charles Wolcott Brooks (1832-1885) ties to Hawaii
Just making note of some references on this man, who accompanied Kalakaua and Yoshida Kiyonari to the San Francisco Board of Brokers.


 * His father was Rev. Charles Brooks in Medford, Massachusetts. See Charles Brooks House


 * He had a trading tie-in to Hawaii and sugar planters.




 * He was also an author
 * HathiTrust


 * World Cat

— Maile (talk) 00:39, 13 September 2018 (UTC)

Orthography, spelling and formatting - MOS Hawaii-related articles
MOS Hawaii-related articles is used in this article. — Maile (talk) 01:26, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

When the Navy was Host to Hawaii's King


''Captain W. E. Hopkins of the Benicia received the party with honors and showed them to their quarters and about the vessel. The ship had one drawback at the time— she was badly in need of drydocking and repairs. However, the King's rooms were all he could desire, and being among men he liked, His Majesty settled down to a journey of perfect contentment. “Such means at the command of the Department were not spared,” wrote the Secretary of the Navy later, “in providing for the comfort of His Majesty and suite, both on shipboard and during their stay in our country.” The royal party was small, consisting only of H. M. Pierce, our resident minister at Honolulu, J. O. Domimis, Governor of Oahu, J. M. Kapena, Governor of Maui, a Mr. E. A. Mayor and two servants. The King's genial nature and personal interest in almost everything aboard made him liked by all. A special fare for a Thanksgiving Day feast had been taken aboard, and although this was an American tradition he heartily joined in. Upon leaving the vessel at San Francisco he wrote Captain Hopkins that the voyage “will be remembered by me with the greatest pleasure during my whole life.” He also paid a compliment by having the Navy notify his Queen back in Honolulu of his safe arrival. The Captain's reply stated that his command wished the King to know that they too had enjoyed being together with him. In addition to being “a prince of a fellow,” King Kalakaua was well educated, considerate, a student of foreign affairs, a fair ...''

KAVEBEAR (talk) 05:38, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
 * https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/1948-01/when-navy-was-host-hawaiis-king

Removal of OCLC numbers
I have reverted several stylistic edits from that removed OCLC numbers from the sourcing and otherwise made stylistic changes to the sourcing. OCLC is a standard addition to sourcing on Wikipedia. Please do not alter sourcing. Also the edit summary for changes as "no need for url as page cannot be accessed online" was COMPLETELY erroneous. Those Google books URLs were there, because the sources were accessed through those URLs. They don't need to access the entire book, just access of the given page cited. Also, please do not change sourcing to Hathi Trust trust into your style of a sourcing URL. Not necessary, and it worked as it was. It is standard sourcing to Hathi Trust. The "subscription required" that you added back in, is now being removed by a bot straight across Wikipedia - on ALL sourcing - as consensus that it is no longer needed. — Maile (talk) 14:31, 21 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Not helpful ANI where I attempted to get an answer to the "Subscription required" issue. 1 — Maile (talk) 17:05, 21 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks for trying with the subscription issue - I do find it really useful as a template, as you can waste time trying to access a source otherwise. Also, happy to follow what you say about OCLC, will include them myself in the future. Amitchell125 (talk) 20:15, 21 August 2019 (UTC)

Accessing sources
The Kanahele link in the Bibliography section doesn't take me to p. 271 - surely if another way of accessing the page can't be found, the link should go? The same with Osorio pp. 159-73 - I cannot access these pages, so there shouldn't be any link to Google Books. Amitchell125 (talk) 20:36, 21 August 2019 (UTC)


 * I'd rather work with you, than revert you, given that your ultimate goal is GA. I apologize for the quick revert above and probably should have done the talk page first. Osirio and Kanahele were sourcing added by . 1 2. Do you think it's possible to wait for him to reply, because I don't have an answer for those sourcing.  KAVEBEAR was instrumental in helping to create the article, and I know he's who has listed it at GAC. I don't know how active he is these days, but hope he can reply to this.  Do you have time to wait for his reply? — Maile  (talk) 00:57, 22 August 2019 (UTC)


 * No worries, I can wait. Many thanks. Amitchell125 (talk) 05:38, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
 * I just link all Google Books no matter their viewability. If it is an issue, then they can be removed. But I was concern with some edits where page numbers were removed from journal articles in larger publications, please retain those. The ISSBN and OCLC inclusion goes back to finicky reviewers from my first FA review so just trying to make sure all sources are formatted to highest quality in all articles I’ve edited. KAVEBEAR (talk) 04:45, 23 August 2019 (UTC)


 * Thanks KAVEBEAR, this sounds sorted. ISSBN/OCLC numbers both included, Google Books urls only included when the information can be found there, page numbers in journals included where appropriate. I'm quite happy with that, if you are too. Relevant access icons ( /  / ) are now to be found alongside many sources in other articles and I would wish them to be included too, so if that's all right I'll put them back in where they were. Amitchell125 (talk) 05:31, 23 August 2019 (UTC)


 * I will go along with whatever KAVEBEAR wants on these issues, as he is the original contributor on many of these sources. — Maile (talk) 10:24, 23 August 2019 (UTC)

Links
Is it just me or is this article barely linked anywhere else on Wikipedia? KAVEBEAR (talk) 03:42, 11 September 2019 (UTC)


 * "What links here" shows the article linked to 5 other articles. How many do you think it should be linked to? — Maile  (talk) 11:35, 11 September 2019 (UTC)

Obscure travel companions
Do you remember the list of obscure travel companions you listed awhile back ago either for this article or for Kalākaua's 1881 world tour? I am trying to see if Charles Kaiaiki (or similar spelling) was one of them? KAVEBEAR (talk) 02:07, 13 April 2020 (UTC)


 * If I did list such individuals, it was most likely this article. The world tour, as I recall, were mostly a small group of Hawaii friends - Armstrong, etc. The reciprocity trip had a lot of people, including an embedded journalist.  The sourcing involved would have been whoever sailed with him out of Honolulu, who boarded the train with him in San Francisco, and whoever was hanging around when they were in D. C. — Maile  (talk) 02:21, 13 April 2020 (UTC)

Do not move page without consensus
This page was moved without any discussion here, certainly no consensus. It has now been restored to its original title. — Maile (talk) 19:20, 13 June 2022 (UTC)