Talk:Kamloops Airport/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Arsenikk (talk · contribs) 00:06, 31 January 2013 (UTC)

Comments: Overall an impressive article. Mostly minor issues to resolve, some which I have fixed. Thanks for writing an article about an airport where I was actually interested in. Arsenikk (talk)  00:06, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Don't have more significant digits in the conversion than the original. (fixed)
 * ✔️ Thanks! TBrandley (what's up) 01:05, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Could you be more specific than "a number of destinations".
 * ✅ TBrandley (what's up) 01:05, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * "Serves" in aviation refers specifically to the city which the airport serves, not the region. This may be different than the location. For instance, Vancouver International Airport is located in Richmond but serves Vancouver. In this case the serves and location are the same.
 * Awkward when the information about WWII is split between two paragraphs.
 * One paragraph was getting rather large, so I split it. TBrandley (what's up) 01:05, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Soviet Union area? If it was to the Soviet Union "area" should be dropped. Otherwise it would be better with "and surrounding areas" or similar.
 * ✅ TBrandley (what's up) 01:05, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * What do you mean by "due to low public visibility during the fall and winter seasons of a specific year". The whole sentence was rather odd so I rewrote the rest.
 * ✔️ Thanks! TBrandley (what's up) 01:05, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Don't need to say $CAN when writing about a Canadian topic; $ is sufficient. (fixed)
 * ✔️ I was looking through the Manual of Style over this, and saw that one should note which type of dollar it is, but then I found that you are not suppose to note if it is obviously by the context, so in short: thanks! TBrandley (what's up) 01:05, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Buildings and the like are expanded, while runways are extended. (fixed)
 * ✔️ Thanks! TBrandley (what's up) 01:05, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * What does "its reliability was improved with the addition of more general services" mean?
 * ✅ TBrandley (what's up) 01:05, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Try to avoid the rather unencyclopædic term "welcomed".
 * ✅ TBrandley (what's up) 01:05, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Non-airport building? Probably just a non-terminal building. The source mentions nothing about it being located off the airport boundaries.
 * Avoid coordinates in the prose, but feel free to add them to the title line and the infobox. (fixed)
 * ✔️ Thanks! TBrandley (what's up) 01:05, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I doubt the airport's size should be measured in smoots (which is a measurement of length, not area).
 * It was measured under smoots at the source, so I stuck with that. I am not asthmatics expert, but unless I would be able to find a conversation website, I would not be qualify to do it. TBrandley (what's up) 01:05, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I cannot find any reference to smoot in that source. Arsenikk (talk)  18:06, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ TBrandley (what's up) 19:09, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
 * "with the North Shore Business Improvement Association" doesn't make sense.
 * ✅ TBrandley (what's up) 01:05, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * "Canadian government in Ottawa" should be just "Canadian government". (fixed)
 * ✔️ Thanks! TBrandley (what's up) 01:05, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The 2009 expansion should be covered in the history section.
 * ✅ TBrandley (what's up) 01:05, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Link Eurocopter AS350 to A-Star. (fixed)
 * ✔️ Thanks! TBrandley (what's up) 01:05, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * There is a lot of what I would consider rather trivial information here, such that it has a weather station (yes, all airports have a weather station) and that it is actually certified. The meteorological information might be okay, even that it serves as Kamloops' main weather station, but I would recommend removing the other two statements. From the port of entry comment the information is of interest.
 * I am not sure about this, it seems to be related to facility information and is of importance perhaps, although it is not true that all has their primary weather station at the airport. Most information, in my opinion, is important, such as the flying club or Royal Canadian Mounted Police statements, for example, and especially terminal upgrading information. TBrandley (what's up) 01:05, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Perhaps I formulated myself somewhat vaguely. The sentences I reacted to were "The facility has been recognized as a certified airport by the British Columbia Ministry of Transportation. Transport Canada categorizes a certified airport through a process which ensures that it meets the safety criteria and provides flights to other destinations." This goes beyond saying: all airports in the world (at least in the industrial world and of a size offering public flights) are certified by some authority and no airport is allowed to operate without such permits. The rest of the paragraph is fine. Arsenikk (talk)  18:06, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ TBrandley (what's up) 19:09, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
 * What do you mean by "It has a number of "business opportunities" available,"? If you mean that part of operations is outsources, then say so.
 * ✅ TBrandley (what's up) 01:05, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Ownership transfer of the airport should go in the history section.
 * ❌ Similar information was ultimately added to the Penticton Regional Airport under the history, but it was transferred to the facilities per a request by another user at its featured article candidate, as it is more related to that. This information about the Kamloops Airport is similar. TBrandley (what's up) 01:05, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I still find it an odd way to organize the information. The point of a history section to place events chronologically so they can be seen in context with each other. If there are in reality three history sections (one for "history", one for facilities and one for operators) it becomes difficult to see the connection between the issues (for instance, facilities are often expanded after increased traffic etc.) Either way it is beyond the scope of a GA review. Arsenikk (talk)  18:06, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Is the airport actually owned by the city?
 * It is owned by the Kamloops Airport Authority Society, a department of the Kamloops City Council. Would you like me to note this, if I may find an appropriate source. TBrandley (what's up) 01:05, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I would be nice if this was stated clearly so the reader isn't in doubt that the airport is ultimately owned by the city. Arsenikk (talk)  18:06, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Done. TBrandley (what's up) 19:09, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Never use more than two dashes in a sentence. The first sentence under "airlines and destinations" isn't comprehensible. Also, I cannot see that the reference verifies the information.
 * I have addressed the dashes concern, but I believe there are appropriate references: the 16th and 64th source requires a subscription for access, while the other FlightAware reference state that flights have been provided to those destinations, but you may have to check deeper into the airline destination history of the airport, just below its map. TBrandley (what's up) 01:05, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The first sentences is still too long and complex. Personally I do not see then need to mention both airport and city, one should do. Anyhow the sentence needs to be shorter. Arsenikk (talk)  18:06, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
 * ✅ Actually, I have reorganized the structure of the sentence and placement, but I did misunderstand the source which was actually that it does provide charter flights by those airlines, and has recently, so I addressed that. TBrandley (what's up) 19:09, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Please add a destinations table. Readers are expecting it and a lack of table usually implies that there is no service at the airport. To be honest, the section is so complex, mixing former and current operations that I couldn't keep track of what services are currently offered where.
 * ✅ TBrandley (what's up) 01:05, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Consider adding historical destinations to the history section.
 * ❌ It was suggested to be added to the airlines and destinations section at the featured article candidate of Penticton Regional Airport. TBrandley (what's up) 01:05, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Ref 47 is lacking publisher.
 * ✅ TBrandley (what's up) 01:05, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * As I took all but one of the pictures myself I cannot do else but approve them :)
 * I noticed that, thanks for uploading the attractive images. TBrandley (what's up) 01:05, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the review. TBrandley (what's up) 01:05, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Replied. TBrandley (what's up) 19:09, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
 * Congratulations with a good article :) Arsenikk (talk)  21:38, 3 February 2013 (UTC)