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Updates and such
unclikabled the pointless red titles... when they are black people can tell there is no article it does not need to be red... looks tacky. Updated some stuff like the new kckcc techanical center... looks alot better!

Killa City?
I have lived in WYCO my whole life and never heard it called "Killa City". I think "Killa City" should be removed. I have however heard called "Crime dotte".

Metro
Only the anchor city should have the "metro population" statistic in their infobox. Kansas City, Kansas is NOT the anchor city of the Kansas City MSA. The anchor city is Kansas City, Missouri. They have the urban corridor, their political decisions have the major impact on the city, they have the tall buildings and big city downtown, they have the aiport, ect. Even the census defines them as the anchor city. Putting this statistic implies that KCK is the anchor city, and it most certinatly is not. Please leave this statistic out. Most people think Kansas City is anchored in Kansas, when it is really not. Removing this will help the confusion.

Spam on this page
continues to add his link to a KC restaurant-promotion site which is clearly (to me at least) a commercial link which does not fit in an encyclopedia. I'm looking to avoid an endless revert war over this, because that doesn't benefit anyone - does anyone else have any thoughts about this site? (ESkog)(Talk) 00:53, 22 January 2006 (UTC)


 * Speaking as a KCK resident, I don't know if the link is exactly spam (I don't know the rules of Wikipedia regarding links), but it has an extremely limited list of restaurants in the K.C. area, and I suspect they all paid to be on the list. On the other hand, most of the external links are to commercial sites, including the Kansas Speedway, the Kansas City T-Bones, and the KCK Renaissance Festival, while KCTV-5 really does not belong on the list, as its offices are in Fairway, KS, in the next county.


 * If the link belongs anywhere, it would belong on the Kansas City, MISSOURI article, as there is not a single KCK restaurant on the list, though it's not like we have a lot of fine dining in KCK as it is, unless you consider Tex-Mex and fried chicken by the bucket to be "fine". :-)  Couillaud 04:46, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
 * I don't think all commercial links are bad per se if they have a direct research-driven relationship to the article, like the ones you list above. You're right though, this link really has no bearing to any of us on the Kansas side (Olathe/Lawrence/soon to be Olathe again here). (ESkog)(Talk) 05:59, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Since i am not a part of this at all, just reading this conversation, i would like to say that if you have info on restaraunts, they could be used on the KCK Wikitravel page, not on the wikipedia.SpokaneWilly 00:40, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Compromise.
Lets add the link to just the KC Missouri page. I see that some others feel that it isnt spam, and the way i feel is that people can use it for free to find some information on the Culinary aspect of KC. I am going to add the link once more to the KC missouri page and hope we can agree that it should be there.

Let me make one more point. This link is not here in order to have restaurants/restaurant owners find it and then pay money to be on the guide. I doubt any restaurant owners will come through the Wiki and see a restaurant guide link and feel the need to pay to be included. I do see many restaurant patrons coming through and finding the guide quite useful if they are planning a business trip, a vacation, or a permanent move to KC. I do not see anyway that the actual site will make money from this link, and I personally have used this guide on several occasions while traveling to and through KC.

I vote we all leave the link alone and see who else comes along to argue its place.

City Rank
Both Kansas City and Topeka claim to be the 3rd largest city in kansas. SpokaneWilly 00:40, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

Spokane Willy - Re: Kansas City KS
Willy,

Don't know the source of Topeka's claim to be the third largest city in Kansas (as you mentioned in your post to the Kansas City Kansas page) unless it is this:

For a long time, the rankings were as follows: 1. Wichita 2. Kansas City 3. Topeka

After some time, especially as the Kansas City suburb of Overland Park grew at the same time the population in Kansas City Kansas fell, Overland Park overtook Kansas City in population. This likely took place in the 70's/80's/90's.

By now, certainly Overland Park is larger, so the updated rankings would look like this: 1. Wichita 2. Overland Park 3. Kansas City 4. Topeka

Perhaps this is the simple explanation to the claim that Topeka is the 3rd largest city in Kansas.

Best Wishes,

DF 70.246.245.48 15:34, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

Recent edits to Kansas City, Kansas
Recently there has been several edits that removed mention that Kansas City, Kansas is a Satellite city, or suburb, of Kansas City, Missouri. Wikipedia uses census/government information, common consensus, scientific demographic studies to make this designation. Because Kansas City, Kansas shares its name with the anchor city in its metro area there is probably a little confusion. Kansas City, Kansas is the third largest city in the metro area, and is a first ring suburb much like Independence, Missouri or Overland Park, Kansas. Only the anchor city is described as having suburbs. Several recent changes suggest that Overland Park, Kansas is a suburb of KCK, this is incorrect as overland park is actually larger than KCK. I don't know if this is warring between the suburbs or not but it should be taken off-wikipedia.

In a separate but related note, there have been edits that redirect Kansas City to Kansas City Metropolitan Area instead of Kansas City, Missouri,  I think this is a good idea, as wikipedia users can figure out where to go from the Metro page. The last consensus was to redirect to Kansas City, Missouri assuming that most people were looking for that information. Unless anybody has any objections I'm leaving the Kansas City redirect pointing to Kansas City Metropolitan Area. Past discussions and more information can be found at Talk:Kansas City.-Grey Wanderer | Talk 18:50, 23 March 2008 (UTC)


 * By the definition given "Satellite town", I'm not sure the suburban cities of the KC metro really apply, despite the fact that KCK was added to that article about four months ago, without any sort of justification. The concept as I understand it applies mainly to towns planned as adjuncts to a larger metropolis, while most of the cities in the KC area were founded in the 19th century, and simply did not grow as large as Kansas City, MO.  Transportation being what it was then, Overland Park was no more a satellite community of KCMO than is Topeka today.  They're just two towns that grew into each other.  I can believe "suburb", but "satellite city" doesn't really seem to fit.  --  Couillaud (talk) 19:37, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

"Suburb" of KCMO??
What exactly makes KCK a suburb of KCMO? This suggests that KCK is not a separate city, when in fact a state border separates the two. I think this suburban distinction should be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jackhutchens (talk • contribs) 18:22, 4 July 2011 (UTC)


 * A suburb is a municipality that surrounds a central municipality. It demonstrates that they are in fact separate governments but part of the same urban conglomeration. Kansas City, Kansas has the same relationship to Kanas City, Missouri as Independence, Missouri on the east or Raytown, Missouri on the south. Grey Wanderer (talk) 19:48, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

History section - Trivial matters.
Why does the article mention the mayor in 1910? Is it relevant that it was declared a second class city in 1880 with the mayor present? All the historical facts from 1872 to 1910 seem trivial - the type of entries made by a descendent of the person mentioned. Jnmwiki (talk) 19:00, 1 November 2012 (UTC)

Further reading section
I struck out the current further reading section. A further reading section should included work that are entirely or largely about the topic of the article's name. The books referenced were state history books, they would be great on the Kansas page. I think this page could use a further reading section. Does anybody know of books about KCK? See Further reading also. Grey Wanderer (talk) 21:29, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

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