Talk:Kapudan Pasha

Requested move

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The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 02:07, 27 July 2011 (UTC)

Kaptan Pasha → Kapudan Pasha – per WP:COMMONNAME


 * "Kapudan Pasha" -Llc 1,580 results
 * "Kapudan Pasa" -Llc 257 results
 * "Captain Pasha" -Llc 1,030 results
 * "Kaptan Pasha" -Llc 176 results
 * "Kaptan-i Derya" -Llc 81 results
 * "Kapudan-i Derya" -Llc 145 results
 * "Kaptan Pasa" -Llc 151 results

+ Ottoman: Takabeg (talk) 02:48, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
 * Ottoman "Kapudan Pasha" -Llc 995 results
 * Ottoman "Captain Pasha" -Llc 214 results
 * Ottoman "Kaptan Pasha" -Llc 111 results
 * Ottoman "Kaptan-i Derya" -Llc 47 results
 * Ottoman "Kapudan-i Derya" -Llc 117 results
 * Ottoman "Kaptan Pasa" -Llc 78 results
 * Ottoman "Grand Admiral" -Llc 1,350 results
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Name
Including some variants untried above:
 * Kapudan Pasha 8490/2330/187
 * Captain Pasha 3150/2930/121 (but most book sources older volumes)
 * Kaptan Pasha 3530/128/20
 * Derya Bey 5520/10/1 (but one source the Cambridge History of the Ottoman Empire)
 * Kaptan-i Derya 46400/226/21
 * Kaptan Derya 21600/24/6
 * Kapudan-i Derya 3060/279/30
 * Kapudan Derya 20/9/1
 * Captain Derya 51/0/0

Numbers are results from web, book, & scholar google searches -wikipedia. Translations include "Grand Admiral," "Supreme Admiral," "Admiral." — LlywelynII  18:25, 11 September 2011 (UTC)

Commander-in-Chief
I have read the biographies of various Admirals of the Ottoman Empire and the title that I recommend is Grand Admiral, the Grand Admiral still might come in under the Commander-in-chief which is the Grand Vizier as the Serdar, but I can't think of any example as of now. The Commander-in-chief for me is the Serdar. Mr.Helping Hand (talk) 19:09, 8 June 2017 (UTC)