Talk:Karaim

Karaim both Jews and Turks?
Let's see if i understand this correctly: Karaim are both Jews and Turks?

Gringo300 12:53, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)


 * Not exactly. Jews most certainly.  Jews who speak a Turkic language, most certainly.  But Turks, i.e., Turk(ic?) converts to Judaism?  Not necessarily.  The history of the group who speak the "Karaim" language is far too shrouded by history, or ahistory, to make any reliable assertions about their origins.  :-p  -t Tomer TALK  09:50, Jun 16, 2005 (UTC)

I work with Karaims in Lithuania. They definitely do not identify themselves as Jews. Nonstopbrakes 02:05, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Absolutely correct Nonstopebrakes, there is a difference between the ancient pre-caliphate Karaism of a simple Karaite (uncircumcised laity, eating Kibinai which mix butter with meat, belief in the Quran, the prophet-hood of Christ, and reverence for Muhammad S.A.W. etc.) which was known to Abu Hanifa, and the post-caliphate Karaite Jews whose Karaite Judaism was only inspired by the simplicity of the Karaites although it has not much in common with original Karaism. Unfortunately these facts are suppressed by wikipedians in favour of the mainstream Jewish opinion on what Karaites actually believe.Kaz 08:24, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

Not a disambig page
I have removed the disambig template from the article because it is not formatted as a disambiguation page, and I don't see any advantage in trying to force it to fit that format. If this were a disambiguation page, it would not belong in other categories and would not have any informational links in the introduction. --R'n'B (call me Russ) 10:26, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Agreed.Kaz 08:25, 11 August 2012 (UTC)

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