Talk:Karen Human Rights Group

Introduction
Hey guys, I am a member of the Wikipedia Public Policy Initiative. If you have any questions please come talk to me. I'm starting a sandbox User:Jysg23/KHRG, please comment on it if you have any questions. Thanks. —Preceding undated comment added 19:59, 23 September 2010 (UTC).

DYK
This article should be eligible for appearing on the main page as a "Did you know" entry, if it is nominated it soon; it is supposed to be nominated within 5 days of being created or significantly (5x) expanded.

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--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 01:52, 3 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Before it hits the main page, you might also take a shot at making the improvements suggested at the workbench. Nice work so far! The original picture is a great addition.--Sage Ross - Online Facilitator, Wikimedia Foundation (talk) 01:55, 3 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your feedback. I nominated my entry for DYK! I'm so excited. Please let me know if you see any changes or additions need for my entry. Thanks! 141.161.72.114 (talk) 03:26, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
 * I think you are doing a fine job with this article. Unfortunately because of DYK rules, I am afraid this suggestion might fail its nomination. Primarily because it has been created longer than 5 days ago. This precludes it as a new article, and the only other possibility is a five fold expansion. I will try on your behalf to have the five day rule waived but advise against over optimism. And don't be discouraged if it is declined for these technical reasons. As I stated, you are doing well with this article and there are other ways we can get the visibility you deserve. Kind regards. My 76 Strat  04:33, 12 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. I will keep that in mind! Please let me know how I can improve my entry. Thanks again! 141.161.133.79 (talk) 16:56, 16 November 2010 (UTC)


 * It turns out the nomination for this article at WP:DYK was not successful. This mostly because the nomination was tardy and there was a full field of submissions which were submitted according to their rules. Thanks for your contributions nonetheless.  My 76 Strat  02:54, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Stephan suggestions
Very interesting article that really conveys the life and struggle of the Burmese refugees Some suggestions: Map of location of the campm in Burma How the refugee camp distinguishes itself from other camps in the region compare and contrast Finish references 6 and 7 —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smj39 (talk • contribs) 20:17, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

Professor's comments
Good job gathering so much information together and organizing it into a clear and concise article. The sections that you have chosen for this article, are, in my opinion, relevant to the article as a whole. That's great. A few things to work on: 1) It would be good to try and work on the grammar and the flow of the writing a bit more. 2) This section [pasted below] needs additional information and a clearer sense of when these things are happening in history, etc. From my perspective, it assumes that the reader knows a great deal of information which is not here. For example, you mention earlier how they are shepherds but here they grow food. Just make sure you give the background material beforehand and that it connects here to what is happening on the ground in terms of human rights. I know there is a huge entry on the Karen people in general, so maybe just summarizing that in a sentence or two. Or something to give us some idea of how they lived and thus what the government is doing to them and how that is impacting their life. In addition, as Stephan says, it would be good to know where the camps are located and numbers, etc. If you don't want to repeat that information, at least note that it briefly with links to it elsewhere.

Karen’s issues with the Burmese government
Under the rule of the SPDC, farming villages have to deal with several Army battalions moving into the area, restricting the movements of villagers and demanding food, labor, and building materials. Karen families operate on a subsistence level, growing enough rice and vegetables for their own use. Their system has no safety net in hard times, therefore there is no built-in capacity to deal with this situation. Their forced relocation under the SPDC military is for the purpose of using them as a convenient source of unpaid labor at local Army camps and along the roads. After a few months, many people find they have little option but to starve or flee. These days most people know what is happening at the relocation sites, so when they are ordered to move they simply flee into hiding in the forests surrounding their farmlands. Tens of thousands of people are presently living in this way “under the constant risk of being captured or shot by passing SPDC patrols who also seek out and destroy their food supplies and crops in the fields. Eventually, they can no longer survive this way and try to make their way to the border with Thailand to become refugees". Radavis147 (talk) 19:19, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Thank you for your comment Professor. I have added a section on "Camp and Locations" where I have included a link to a map of the Karen state. I've also added more information to a few sections in this entry. I've also included additional information in the section "Karen's issues with the Burmese government". I will continue to work on my entry. Thanks! 141.161.72.68 (talk) 16:31, 25 November 2010 (UTC)

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