Talk:Karl Freiherr von Vogelsang

also referred to in several Philip K. Dick novels Dave Kielpinski 14:40, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

Whoever got the idea Eugen Kogon had had "fascist leanings" before WWII? In fact he had been so outspoken against Nazism in Austria that he was among the first people imprisoned only hours after Hitler's Anschluß, remaining in Buchenwald from then on and up to 1945. He's even mentioned among famous inmates in the entry on Buchenwald as a famous anti-Nazi activist. --Tlatosmd 02:45, 23 February 2007 (CEST)

he was not a nazist, but a supporter of the austrian fascist regime and certainly no democrat before the nazis purged him from his leanings to the extreme right. actually, as a european federalist, he almost ruined the german section of the union of european federalists by over-spending. as a former inmate of buchenwald, he stronbgly urged the public to distinguish between "good" and "bad" concentration camp prisoners, in one of his first post-war articles, fostering the wide-spread belief in the german population that some people might have been imprisoned for the wrong reasons, but most had just got what they deserved. it is certainly difficult to fathom this attitude which was, however, shared by communist ex-prisoners who certainly would not have considered kogon a person to consort with. sorry, but history is complicated and little points to a deep change about his antisemitic pre-war stance in kogon's later development into a champion of western democracy. Klaus rabe 21:44, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

FURTHER REMOVAL OF REFERENCES TO VOGELSANG'S ANTISEMITIC LEANINGS, QUITE POPULAR AT THE TIME, ONE MUST SADLY ADMIT, WILL BE REPORTED AS VANDALISM. ANYONE IN DOUBT SHOULD READ UP THE REFERENCE QUOTED IN TODAY'S EDITION OF THE PAGE. (Klaus rabe 22:37, 31 March 2007 (UTC))