Talk:Karl Ritter von Ghega

Carl Ritter von Ghega was an ethnic Italian
The name von Ghega may sound pretty with the Albanian designation Ghegs; but according to the authors of Encyclopedia of North American Railroads – page 493, Carl Ritter von Ghega was "An ethnic Italian". --Vannucci (talk) 15:33, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Hey,, hope you're well. It's somewhat more complex than that. In general, we should rely more on secondary bibliography that deals with the given subject extensively because WP:TERTIARY sources like Encyclopedia of North American Railroads, tend to gloss over relatively minor subjects like Carl Ghega's family tree within its 1225 pages in terms of equating place of origin with ethnicity without further discussion. A very recent paper about him with many details about his family tree is which about his family tree writes  Beyond that aspect of his identity though, the article should focus on him as an engineer - the reason why he's notable even today. --Maleschreiber (talk) 20:37, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Not a good idea to include an Albanian source in this matter, since Albanian media make a big noise about the origin of famous people, which have during these years got out of hand. The source you mention is not convincing and doesn't add up and can very well consist of false evidence, which can be done with ease. In the meantime the source Encyclopedia of North American Railroads is the way to go. If there are better sources which can confirm without a doubt that von Ghega was of Albanian origin then I would allow it. --Vannucci (talk) 11:50, 18 August 2020 (UTC)


 * According to the source Dictionary of American Family Names - page 31, Ghegan is an Italian surname. Other sources do not mention Albanian language knowledge. According to the source Export: Austrian Architecture in Europe - page 14, Despite his family's Italian descent he was raised as an Austrian and grew up speaking three languages (German, Italian, Slovenian). --Vannucci (talk) 09:09, 7 May 2021 (UTC)

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