Talk:Karlheinz Deschner

a shame
Isn't it a real shame that Deschner's Kriminalgeschichte des Christentums (Christianity's Criminal History) hasn't been translated to English? I've already read some volumes... in Spanish! —Cesar Tort 19:04, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

No reliable sources for Prizes
I can find no reliable sources for the Prizes ("Karlheinz Deschner was awarded the Arno Schmidt Prize in 1988, succeeding Wolfgang Koeppen, Hans Wollschläger and Peter Rühmkorf. In June of 1993 he followed Walter Jens, Dieter Hildebrandt, Gerhard Zwerenz and Robert Jungk in winning the Alternative Büchner Prize and in July of 1993, following Andrei Sacharow and Alexander Dubcek, he was the first German to be recognized with the International Humanist Award. In the fall of 2001 he received the Erwin Fischer Prize, and in November of that year the Ludwig Feuerbach Prize as well.") the GHits seem to come from this article. I've taken them out - they should be re-added only when sourced. A claim on the author's website will not do! NBeale (talk) 06:51, 28 January 2008 (UTC)


 * I have added a little section with the prizes overview. It is translated from the referenced author's book, in which it can be found in an introductory section "Über den Autor". The book is available in the "Digitale Bibliothek Deutscher Klassiker" (CD 132), and can retrieved from the Regenburg University - see ref in the article. Various parts of the text can be Gsearched with many hits, independent of the author's website. I guess all this can be taken as a WP:RS. I couldn't find a non-wiki-copy reference for the Serbian Academy. Cheers, DVdm (talk) 20:33, 14 April 2010 (UTC)

Two
Deschner seems to have been in two places at once much of the time. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.139.117.175 (talk) 13:15, 28 February 2008 (UTC) He seems to have been in the German Army from 1942 to 1945. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.139.117.175 (talk) 13:55, 28 February 2008 (UTC)

Greater detail
This article needs more detail about Deschner's service in the German Army. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.183.233.153 (talk) 11:56, 15 April 2010 (UTC) The units he served in, the Allied units he fought against, the geographical situation of his units, all are needed by students of Deschner. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.183.233.153 (talk) 11:58, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Feel free to add this information to the article, if you think it's useful and have good sources for it. SNALWIBMA ( talk - contribs ) 12:10, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Perhaps the German wiki has more information on this. Let me know if you find something useful and I'll use what I recall from high school to translate it. DVdm (talk) 12:36, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I tried sending a message to Deschner's own web-site, but only got an Error message.
 * The German article is even vaguer than the English, about Deschner's 1942 to 1945 activities. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.166.10.172 (talk) 08:26, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Last month there was a similar question on the talk page of the German version. Someone replied: "Er hat ja nicht als "Kriegsfreiwilliger" Dienst getan, sondern als Soldat. Deschner meldete sich, wie der Rest seiner Klasse, freiwillig als Kriegsfreiwilliger und war "bis zur Kapitulation Soldat, zuletzt Fallschirmjäger."" In other words, he was not a "Krieg-volunteer", just a common soldier. They point to the website (http://www.deschner.info/) for more details.
 * Anyway, I notice that you just inquired with your regular fixed IP (217.41.51.240 -- the one of which the vandalism block expired yesterday). I guess you will have to wait for a reply over there, or do some research of your own on Deschner's site.
 * Also, thanks for having corrected my typos in my messages above. You don't have to do that, and I even think it is considered as bad form in some of the policies here, but thanks anyway.  :-)
 * By the way, could you please sign your talk page messages with four tildes? Cheers - DVdm (talk) 09:07, 16 April 2010 (UTC)


 * I believe this `ad hominem´ or `what did he do in the war?´ is exactly that kind of fallacy one ought get, if it goes for Deschners adversaries. His work speaks for itself, those who once called him a `mere compilator´ are now on the nazi-search, as if his deeds could not conflict with his intellectual achievements... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.226.87.86 (talk) 17:56, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

Critics of the Catholic Church
There is no reason to omit this category just because "Critics of Christianity" has been added. Categories are not mutually exclusive and both of these describe different things. Elizium23 (talk) 14:08, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
 * not wrong, however he critizised any denomination, hence the master category is more appropriate. Are there any cats like "critisism of the protestant church", "..of the orthodox church" etc.? If yes, they had to be added also, to keep the info balanced and complete. Nillurcheier (talk) 14:30, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
 * It is not a "master category" there are two separate non-diffusing categories. I would not object to additional specific categories as long as they comply with WP:CATV, i.e. can be sourced and written in the article. Right now the only specific church mentioned is the Catholic Church. Elizium23 (talk) 14:41, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
 * "Critics of the CC" is clearly a subcategory of "Critics of Ch". But anyhow, we can leave it as is. Nillurcheier (talk) 15:49, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

Church membership
There is no mention of him ever being a member of the Catholic Church, much less when or how he left it. It seems that this sort of information could be gleaned from his own writings. Elizium23 (talk) 01:57, 23 December 2022 (UTC)