Talk:Karnöffel

Caldwell citation
The first inline citation references "Notes about Karnöffel - Caldwell, Ross Gregory. Trionfi.com" (with no link). I've searched the site, but I cannot find this anywhere. I'm not doubting the assertion -- it appears correct to me. However, if anyone can find this article or note, please add a link to the citation. Otherwise, we should probably replace it with a source that certainly exists. Phil wink (talk) 17:30, 14 April 2020 (UTC)


 * The trionfi.com site mentions it in a couple of places including here but like a number of other websites they are simply quoting Dummett (1980), so I've replaced it with the original source. I've also corrected the next sentence. There is an older reference to another card game, but it's extinct whereas descendants of Karnöffel are still played today. In fact, I played two of them, Knüffeln and Bruus, in Schleswig last month. The former is mentally quite demanding; the latter is just good fun! Hope that helps. Bermicourt (talk) 20:22, 14 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Well, I was hoping that within maybe 3 years or so someone might pass by and address this issue, so you've surpassed my expectations by a factor of around 9,000. Phil wink (talk) 22:42, 14 April 2020 (UTC)