Talk:Karnak

needs more
Karnak is one of the greatest wonders of the world there should be more information than this on it. I added a little about the columns, architraves and obelisk but I'm sure there is much more to it including at least one other obelisk. I think it has a smaller one still standing and perhaps the twin to the larger one fallen down. I cited 2 sources which covers most if not all of what I added but the part about statues in the temple of mut came from notes it may have been from the seventy wonders of the world or a TV show from the history channel. I'll check back but if anyone else has anything to add please do so.

Zacherystaylor (talk) 05:53, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

Couldn't agree with you more... I live here in Luxor and feel that there is insufficient information but my biggest problem is that the entries in other languages bear no resemblance to the English version, can we not standardise? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Merlin-UK (talk • contribs) 14:21, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Art & Architecture of Egypt - Seidel, Mathias; Schulz, Regine; 2005 Tandem Verlag GmbH - ISBN 3-8331-1424-X: Refers to this as the Temple "City" of Karnak and states that the first Pharaoh to build here was Senusret I [1971 BC to 1926 BC] the temple dedicated to "Month", now known as Montu, who was the original local deity.

See Senusret I, where it states - A shrine (known as the White Chapel) with fine, high quality reliefs of Senusret I, was built at Karnak to commemorate his Year 30 jubilee. It has subsequently been successfully reconstructed from various stone blocks discovered by Henri Chevrier in 1926. Finally, Senusret remodelled the Temple of Khenti-Amentiu Osiris at Abydos, among his other major building projects.

Some of the key members of the court of Senusret I are known. The vizier at the beginning of his reign was Intefiqer, who is known from many inscriptions and from his tomb next to the pyramid of Amenemhat I. He seems to have held this office for a long period of time and was followed by a vizier named Senusret. Two treasurers are known from the reign of the king: Sobekhotep (year 22) and Mentuhotep. The latter had a huge tomb next to the pyramid of the king and he seems to have been the main architect of the Amun temple at Karnak. Merlin-UK (talk) 20:22, 25 September 2010 (UTC)

"It is believed to be the third most visited historical site in Egypt, second only to the Giza Pyramids near Cairo" - Obvious contradiction there. Is it 2nd or 3rd? Fig (talk) 18:16, 18 November 2011 (UTC)

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Origin of name
According to the introduction, "The Karnak complex gives its name to the nearby, and partly surrounded, modern village of El-Karnak, 2.5 kilometres (1.6 miles) north of Luxor." But the section "Name" says the reverse, "The complex's modern name "Karnak" comes from the nearby village of el-Karnak, which means "fortified village" ". Which is correct? Is the temple complex named for the village, or did the complex give its name to the village? SRamzy (talk) 11:44, 12 April 2024 (UTC)


 * The "Name" section is correct - the modern name for the temple comes from the village. Thanks, I will fix the intro. Merytat3n (talk) 21:30, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

Ancient Egyptian names
Hi so far, I'm struggling to verify that Karnak was anciently referred to by names other than Ipet-isut (or similar transliteration) meaning "most select of places". Britannica only mentions Ipet-Isut. The Oxford Encylcopedia of Ancient Egypt's entry on Karnak calls it Ipet-swt "most select of sites" (pp. 222-224). The only source I can find that calls Karnak other names is The Encylopedia of Ancient Egypt (1991) by Margaret Bunson. The entry on Karnak (pp.133-34) says: "Karnak: the modern name for ancient Nesut-Toui, the "Throne of the Two Lands," or Ipet-Iset, "The Finest Seats"."

In trying to do some digging into the Nesut-tawy title I found the Jebel Barkal entry in The Oxford Encyclopedia of Ancient Nubia (2021) reveals that this is another name for Jebel Barkal in Nubia, where Amun was worshipped, which was called Neset/Nesut-Tawy meaning "Throne/s of the Two Lands", which was based on Amun of Karnak's common epithet "Lord of the Throne[s] of the Two Lands" (p.449). The stele erected by Thutmose I calls Amun "Lord of the Throne of the Two Lands" and states that the "Throne of the Two Lands" part of the title refers (and has always referred to) specifically Jebel Barkal (p.452). Hence, I think we can discount Nesut-Tawy as a name for Karnak. Merytat3n (talk) 07:49, 10 June 2024 (UTC)