Talk:Karner blue

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Hello! I'm a student from Washington University, participating in the Lepidoptera project and providing commentary about this article. I appreciated the detailed “Distribution and Habitats” and “Management Considerations” sections, although I find "Distribution and Habitats" to be a bit cumbersome, and could be reorganized. Also, the article could benefit from more information about the reproductive behaviors, as there is little information about reproduction. I also wonder whether there's any competition over wild lupine, given that the butterfly would likely compete against each other and other species for wild lupine as a food source. It would be nice if there could also be more pictures, especially of other stages. Ericapryu (talk) 04:15, 15 September 2017 (UTC)


 * Perfect timing for you to improve and update this page! You will be thrilled to read through the 2023 National Park Service report on this butterfly. To find it, and why that report is so significant, go to the wikipedia page I've been editing a lot since November, in prep for the 50th anniversary of this topic: Endangered Species Act of 1973. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Endangered_Species_Act_of_1973  Go there and do an internal Find for Karner. You will see the report is currently reference #66 and I write of its importance in 2 subsections: "Stakeholder initiatives" and "Climate Adaptation". Hmmm, I see that when I added para 2 to the Management section of this Karner page, I forgot to copy in the full reference of the NPS report, so I just fixed that. A lot of authors on that report, so check to see if any are affiliated with your university. You are very fortunate to have chosen a butterfly that has been a poster animal for climate adaptation ever since Jessica Hellmann wrote a lot about it while she was getting her PhD at Notre Dame. Now she is head of U Minn Institute on Environment (or some similar name). Oh, and because that is an NPS report, anything published by U.S. govt, you yourself can copy or drag an image onto your desktop, then go into Wikimedia Commons and input it there, as they give you in the ownership choices U.S. government. Very easy to do! I did it a lot for the "Assisted migration of Forests of North America" page that I co-wrote with a Canadian wikipedian back when we forestry people got frustrated that the "Assisted migration" page was necessarily dominated by animal interests, ignoring plants — and ignoring how far ahead the forestry people were in North America in helping trees move north whilst animal-centric conservation biologists were still debating whether to even start doing it. Karner is really the first for a translocation already beginning for climate adaptation reasons in USA (Australia is ahead of USA re animal assisted migration), rather than other reasons such as the California Condor back in the 90s going to the Grand Canyon. Enjoy your important project!!! Cbarlow (talk) 15:04, 10 February 2024 (UTC)