Talk:Karren Brady

Appointment
The article reads as if Birmingham were in the top flight of English football in March 1993 I can assure you this was not a case! Though in 2002 when the club did get promoted it's questionable that Brady was the first women in English top flight football. Therefore I have deleted most which would seem to suggest this.

Nicko Bellic  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.104.51.181 (talk) 22:37, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

Proposed removal of the The Apprentice UK template
I have started a discussion at Template talk:The Apprentice UK proposing the removal of template from this article (and the articles on other celebrities having appeared in the show). Please contribute your opinions to a discussion there. └ UkPaolo/talk┐ 10:07, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

Photo
This blurry picture is a recent likeness, and though it is not very good, it is the best free image we have. Unregistered users, clearly a fan or fans, have started edit warring to remove it. So I thought I would throw open an invitation. If you took, or can take, a photograph of Karren Brady, and are free to contribute it under a free content license that allows it to be modified and used for commercial purposes, then please upload it to Wikimedia Commons, to improve the quality of this and other football articles. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 20:07, 10 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Have any reasons been given for removing the image? Snowman (talk) 21:36, 10 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Not that I heard. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 00:17, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Image was speedily deleted ("image is distorted or doesn't show the correct person. BLP.") See Administrators'_noticeboard/Incidents

My request for a better image remains open.

--Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 11:18, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


 * A thirty-second Flickr search reveals these three images, all of which have been released under the Attribution-Non-Commercial-Share Alike 2.0 licence. A quiet word to the photographer there might result in his releasing one of these under the very similar "commercial use" version of this licence, therefore permitting its use on Wikipedia. Steve  T • C 13:03, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Scratch that; I've asked the photographer. Awaiting a reply. Steve  T • C 13:26, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Done, and done. And all it took was a thirty-second Flickr search and a twenty-second e-mail to the photographer. Let this be a lesson to us. :) All the best, Steve  T • C 22:38, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I have changed it for a cropped version without the expanse of grey on the right of the photograph. Many thanks to the flickr photographer, johnmuk, for changing the photograph copyright license to one that is suitable for the wiki, and the necessary attribution is shown in the image file details. Many thanks also to User:Steve for explaining the wiki copyright to johnmuk. Snowman (talk) 14:35, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Recent changes

 * In addition, a section of the article has been removed. I understand that the section was partly sourced from BBC news pages. Snowman (talk) 21:34, 10 July 2008 (UTC)


 * I think Diaryforward was right about that deletion (even though I wrote some of it.) Not only Brady, but several executives from different clubs, were arrested and released without charge.  Although it is a very good idea to explain deletions of sourced material, new editors don't know that, and in this case it is clear (to me) that the world will not end tomorrow.


 * Some other changes were made yesterday, and I can't check them because the original citations are to a book I don't have. But apart from the two I reverted (photo and footnote - coincidentally citing the BBC arrest article), they seemed mostly harmless.


 * --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 00:17, 11 July 2008 (UTC)

Further media updates appeared later in July, regarding the corruption investigation, so summarised the current situation in the article. Thanks to Struway2 for fixing an error I made regarding David Gold. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 14:24, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Awards
There is assertion that she has recognition from the Queen. This is a confusing expression as it implies She has for instance MBE, OBE and so on. I think at best maybe the Queen attended a function but this is can not be blown up to look like the Queen has chosen Brady for an award. This is incorrect. Bozenapolska (talk) 10:52, 19 January 2010 (UTC)

Edmonton, Middlesex????
Edmonton was a part of London long before 1969, I don't know why it is listed as being in Middlesex? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.10.87.105 (talk) 21:04, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Middlesex remains as part of postal address - in the same way that people in Kingston upon Thames don't recognise that they live in Lonon, not Surrey — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.151.37.208 (talk) 08:23, 5 October 2014 (UTC)

Alleged lying about degree
Transcript starting at 17:31 of cited BBC interview, "Desert Island Discs".

I: So you were in this what essentially was a graduate program at Saatchi and Saatchi. KB: Yes. I: I mean, you were selected by graduates KB: Yep. I: and you were not a graduate. KB: Nope. I: Did that bother you at all? KB: No, but I didn't tell anybody I wasn't.  Um, you know, It was much easier just to keep it between myself and Saatchi's.

JanetteDoe (talk) 17:30, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
 * That doesn't support the material as it was written.--Bbb23 (talk) 17:37, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Thank you for providing the precise time for this information — it's a lot better than simply citing the whole interview. Nyttend (talk) 17:39, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
 * I think she says "surrounded by graduates", not "selected". "Keep it between myself and Saatchi's" means that her employers clearly did know she wasn't a graduate although not all of her colleagues did. January  ( talk ) 17:41, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
 * There's no basis for the claim in the Sunday Times Business Section profile that was mentioned either, that just says "Brady, who was accepted onto the advertising agency Saatchi & Saatchi's graduate training scheme with four A-levels but no degree..." (, subcription only but a copy can be found on her website ). January  ( talk ) 18:19, 2 June 2013 (UTC)


 * Bill Muirhead of Saatchi & Saatchi does mention 'graduate', but he does mention 'trainee'. ((http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2014/apr/05/first-boss-karren-brady-bill-muirhead)) - at best, it looks like the truth is being bent here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.139.75.221 (talk) 00:30, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Graduate training scheme
has disputed the statement "she was accepted onto their graduate training programme without a degree", specifically that it was a graduate training scheme. I removed a citation needed tag as it is cited, however it's possible the source over-simplified this and it could be rewritten to reflect Brady's own description in the Desert Island Discs interview quoted above if there are valid concerns about the accuracy of this statement. January ( talk ) 11:13, 6 April 2014 (UTC)

Bill Muirhead of Saatchi & Saatchi mentions that she was on a trainee scheme - this scheme may have had graduates on it, but it wasn't explicitly a graduate scheme, — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.139.75.221 (talk) 00:26, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

NPOV
This article bears all the hallmarks of having been massaged by PR spinners. The objective is to minimize (not remove) negative material while accentuating the positive. When this is done well (as here) it becomes very difficult to demonstrate clear WP:COI issues. --Ef80 (talk) 11:20, 27 April 2015 (UTC)

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Semi-protected edit request on 8 January 2017
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Semi-protected edit request on 8 January 2017
Please change 'A year later, on joining the London Broadcasting Company [16] (LBC) as an advertising account executive, she was able to secure the advertising business of one of her father's largest clients, David Sullivan.[18] Sullivan spent more than £2,000,000 on advertising in six months, on condition that Brady managed the account.' with 'A year later, on joining the London Broadcasting Company (LBC) as an advertising account executive, she targeted the advertising business of publisher David Sullivan, owner of the Daily Sport. Sullivan spent more than £2,000,000 on advertising in six months and was so impressed with Brady that he gave her a job.'

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Semi-protected edit request on 8 January 2017
Please change 'In September 2010 she joined the board of Arcadia with Sir Philip Green, resigning from a non-executive position with Mothercare where she had been for seven years' with 'In September 2010 she joined the board of Taveta Investments Ltd with Sir Philip Green, resigning from a non-executive position with Mothercare where she had been for seven years'

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First lady of football
An anon IP seems to have a issue with this title. It is well referenced so I have restored it. --Egghead06 (talk) 17:07, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
 * 1. You could talk to me. That you choose to talk to others about me, as if I am not here, shows us straight off that you are acting in bad faith.
 * 2. Verifiable is a necessary but not sufficient reason to include something in an article. Are you aware of that?
 * 3. Apparently, you think it's a title? Either you are the most gullible person there is, or you misunderstood something spectacularly, or you did not write what you meant. If you are able to act in good faith and discuss things with me, then please clarify.95.145.130.116 (talk) 19:54, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
 * IP blocked as an LTA --Neil N  talk to me 20:53, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

Google Search Result
When I Google Karren Brady the first result found is the Wikipedia page. Fine except that it provides as the second line of the entry the following: "Member of Parliament of the United Kingdom". UK usage restricts this description to members of the House of Commons and she is a member of the House of Lords. So I came here to see where the error arose and to correct it. However, there does not seem to be any such entry. Does anyone know where the error has arisen? Jim Whitaker (talk) 08:30, 28 October 2018 (UTC)

Baroness title
Twice now her title has appeared as 'Karren Brady, Baroness Brady of Knightsbridge'. While the 'of Knightsbridge' territorial designation does appear with her title, it is not a part of the actual title. The title is simply Baroness Brady. The longer description of it is Baroness Brady, of Knightsbridge in the City of Westminster. The important thing is the comma: everything after the comma is not a part of the title. There is a whole Wikipedia page about this format.

I also once took the liberty of writing about this on her Wikipedia page, after the section about her receiving the title. I felt it was necessary because she does not appear to know herself how to use her title. On her website and on her Twitter page she uses the erroneous 'Baroness Brady of Knightsbridge'. Furthermore, her name on Twitter is Lady Karren Brady, which is also erroneous because her peerage title should not have 'Karren' in it. She is simply either Baroness Brady or Lady Brady. But never Lady Karren Brady. However, what I wrote was removed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.120.171.153 (talk) 17:39, 21 December 2018 (UTC) I note that Aspen University are claiming her patronage https://arden.ac.uk/our-courses/distance-learning/postgraduate/mba/the-karren-brady-mba I'm not sure enough of the situation to make a full edit - does anyone have a better idea? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:988A:DE00:F829:7081:4B54:648A (talk) 19:52, 18 July 2020 (UTC)