Talk:Kasautii Zindagii Kay (2001 TV series)

Hello
I'm the editor of this page (Lil&#39;Khan). If you have any questions or concerns post them on my discussion page. Thank you. —Preceding comment was added at 02:10, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
 * dont you have any better work to do? you must be having a pathetic life. i pity you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.97.74.204 (talk) 04:48, 19 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Please see WP:OWN  florrie  04:31, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

KZK Content
Thankfully all the rubbish once written by you on this article is now removed. Now this confirms to Wikipedia standards. Please be constructive in any other articles that you have ownership of.

>>>> A rubbish article for a rubbish programme is good. why are you all all hell-bent on changing this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gbhtrfv (talk • contribs) 10:49, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

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 * Thank You to all,

I User:Lil'GKhan would like to thank and tell all the Users that have put up their edits and I later re made them, that I highly Appreciate their efforts and constructive edits. But sadly this Soap Opera has ended so the page therefore might not be edting alot. But rest assure that all Users/I.P are getting a Special Award.

THANK YOU!!!

--~*~Lil&#39;GKhanster~*~Take Care &amp; Live Life (talk) 16:40, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
 * May be something like this...

Making an Edit on this page
You can go ahead ( Any User is more than Welcome!:) ) or post your edit here and i will edit it and put it up.Lil&#39;Khan

I made the cast section a chart and moved it up to the top i'll cleanup the character the section later if it's okay. Glamgirljaspreet101 (talk) 21:16, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Umm...We'll Do it in March! We can share the work! And thanz for the last contribution:) Lil&#39;Khan (talk) 00:28, 25 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Rather than tell another editor their contribution is "not okay", it would be constructive to explain your viewpoint and engage in discussion so a consensus may be reached if you or others feel the edit is not in the best interests of the article. It may also encourage active editing to rename and reword the "Making an edit on this page" section header/instructions you have above. Some editors, particularly newer editors, may find it discouraging. See Editing policy and related articles for guidance. &bull; Florrie &bull; leave a note &bull; 02:01, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

You need to cleanup the character section!!! because it is to messy ASAP. Glamgirljaspreet101 (talk) 20:53, 26 January 2008 (UTC)


 * March! LOL! Take Care! Sorry sources say that this show might end:( Lil&#39;Khan (talk) 02:12, 29 January 2008 (UTC)

Don't be a stupid. Just who the hell are you to claim that all the edits have to be approved by you? Read this you moron http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:OWN  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.97.85.80 (talk) 05:53, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

Vandalism
This page is checked every day by me. I'll rv on this page. >>Who ever you are stop blanking the page by deleting it's plot. Hope you understand.Thank you Lil&#39;Khan
 * Somebody vandalised it and the story flew away Lil&#39;Khan 15:11, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

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References and sources
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The plot length has not been addressed. See Manual of Style (writing about fiction) and also see other articles such as Arrested Development (TV series) (which was a featured article) to see how an article can be presented in a balanced and grounded manner. There's more to a tv show than plot.

I have never seen this programme, but if you would like any assistance, please ask. • Florrie • leave a note • 03:43, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

Media Link
Does anybody have it?99.234.129.56 (talk) 23:17, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Writing about fiction
An attempt has been made to improve the presentation of the article, but the plot length remains and it remains the main content of the article. The following is from WP:Writing about fiction.
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For an absolute example of the subjects to cover, see Doctor Who and, although far from perfect, another example of breadth of cover given is seen in the Neighbours article. Maybe a sandbox would be a good start, experiment with options and placement of material. • Florrie • leave a note • 00:58, 2 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Very good points. Thank you. --Triwbe (talk) 05:52, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

Who deleted all the text
That was too harsh!!! Who deleted all the text on Kzk??? Shahzeb02 (talk) 15:52, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
 * See above, "Writing about fiction". The text which has been removed was in one huge, totally unformatted lump, it was totally unsourced and it was original research.  florrie  15:26, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

WTF is this "Kay"?
Why the fuck is it spelt as "kay" when it should be "kii"?

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Proposed merge with Kasautii Zindagii Kay (soundtrack)
No evidence of standalone notability to warrant this content fork, which is almost entirely just a table of awards. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 20:05, 14 July 2018 (UTC) Merge – is necessary for fans point of view The king VIC (talk) 05:14, 29 July 2018 (UTC)

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Comment by Suchitra Sen 16
Admin Notice - The user 'Annabais' has been editing this page with incorrect and false informations with respect to Story, Chapter and Cast. The edits are not facts that was shown in the show and is coming from a Fan viewpoint. Request you to take a notice and Ban the member as this member is only giving complete false info on Wiki page. Suchitra Sen 16 (talk) 18:21, 17 October 2020 (UTC)

Also, this user has already been warned at least once in last 1 week by 1 admin for this page itself - admin name - Ravensfire. (You can find that in History). Suchitra Sen 16 (talk) 18:28, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
 * Can you please provide examples of information that is not correct that the user added? Also Do you care to address this complaint? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:16, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb I just joined before 5 days ago. I never used to edit false information but some users start to edit information which make supporting character as lead and lead character became zero. I also edited in chapter section which info was hide and didn't mentioned which were actually shown in serial. If you don't know than you can cross check with hotstar. I feel that some users try to manipulate information and constantly try to avoid some users from editing by providing this type of false blocking warning. Annabais (talk) 01:56, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb it is so surprisingly that the user Suchitra Sen 16 who falsely alleged me herself joined at the moment when she put this stuff on this page. It clearly shows that who act as fan info like. I request you to ignore this kind of immature thing. Annabais (talk) 02:00, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

@ Cyphoidbomb - Yes sure, please find the references below -

1. Main Cast - The editor, while on a rampant editing spree in last few days, mentioned that Ronit Roy was not a main lead, and that he joined 3 yrs after the show started. Thankfully another admin already warned him/her, but the fact is, Ronit Roy joined the show as Rishabh Bajaj 8 months after the show started (26th June, 2002, yoo can refer to Hotstar), and within 2 months he was made a parallel lead. He was a main character on the show till the last scene of the show. There were Lead episode where both Anurag Basu and Rishabh Bajaj were shown to share the story from their perspective as Leads of the show. Anurag Basu was not just Komolika's former husband, he was also the former husband of Komolika, Prerna and Aporna, and lastly he married Sampada.

Secondly, Anurag Basu was NOT Prerna Basu's husband, and Prerna was NOT Anurag Basu's wife. Anurag Basu died as a widower of Sampada Basu, Prerna was Prerna Rishabh Bajaj till the last episode of the show. The character informations/names and descriptions are not what was shown in the show. You can refer to even the LAST episode of KZK Hotstar if you want.

Thirdly, Ronit Roy was NOT Menka's husband as given in the description. Rishabh Bajaj was married to Prerna from 2002-2003 and 2005-2008 till the last episode of the show and remained a widower of Prerna. So, all 3 Main character info is wrong and baseless, and is not coming from a neutral or factual standpoint.

Sneha - The character Sneha was Rishabh Bajaj's daughter and remained Bajaj's daughter from her day 2 till the show ended (as her character did not die). She was NEVER even for 1 episode was considered as Anurag Basu's daughter. You can again check the list of 3rd Generation character names which will prove that Prerna and Rishabh Bajaj were parents of all 2nd gen kids, which is why the third gen gets the names of Bajaj for all.

2. Story Description - Not sure where to begin with. The entire story is a fanfiction and not what was shown in the episode. Multiple incorrect descriptions, including Bajaj forcing Prerna to marry him, to Prerna's marrying Bajaj second time, Bajaj's affair (which is a COMPLETE fiction) and extra marital affair etc. etc. None of these were what was shown in the episodes.

This is a wiki page, and it's only fair to project a story from neutral pov which states facts, and not what a FAN wants it to be. I was editing back to back with correct info, until the page became semi-protected (and rightfully so), now I had to create a wiki user to bring this to Admin attention. Let me know if you need any further episode info/show info etc. Suchitra Sen 16 (talk) 03:02, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb it is completely wrong that 'Ravensfire' gave warning to me... We just had a normal talk neither he warned me or I did. You can check it in my profile. There is available list. Annabais (talk) 04:09, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

@Cyphoidbomb - Episode links below for reference :

1. Character descriptions - Proof of Prerna not being a Basu (as claimed in Prerna's description) and Anurag not being Prerna's husband (mentioned in Anurag's description) Divorce episode link (2003) : http://ca.hotstar.com/1000018575

Marriage with Aporna after divorce with Prerna (2003) - http://ca.hotstar.com/1000018577

Marriage with Sampada (2006) - http://ca.hotstar.com/1000019167

Third and second Last episode where Prerna is still Prerna Bajaj (as Prerna remarries Bajaj to celebrate their 50th Marriage Anniversary, it's mentioned even in the official descriptions) and in last episode she dies (and of course doesnt marry in last epi LOL) -

http://ca.hotstar.com/1000039993 http://ca.hotstar.com/1000039994

Also, here the description in Official Hotstar says - Prem writes a book on the lives of Anurag, Prerna AND RISHABH BAJAJ, unlike the false claims on last episode in this page by Annabais.

Now talking about Rishabh Bajaj being Menka's husband, the character Menka dies back in 2003. Below episode reference. Rishabh Bajaj has married Prerna in 2002-2003 and has again married her in 2005-2008 (till last episode, until Prerna was alive).

http://ca.hotstar.com/1000018559

2. Related to many of the story descriptions falsely planted, I can start with couple of them -

One where it claims that Bajaj shows the photos to Anurag to create problems, below is the description from Official Hotstar, where it clearly states KOMOLIKA brings/shows the photos to Anurag to create problems (although Bajaj did plan this, he drops the plan post Prem1's death, as he has always been a GREY character) http://ca.hotstar.com/1000018542

Another one would be the last para where it states Prem writes book on Anurag and Prerna, whereas the Official Hotstar Descriptions states that Prem writes the story on Anurag, Prerna AND RISHABH BAJAJ (parallel lead since 2002). I can show evidences of ALL other claims one by one, but let's start with this.

Please take a look and let me know if any other links are needed here. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Suchitra Sen 16 (talk • contribs) 05:03, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

@cyphoidbomb I request to avoid above reference links. Because every episode had each story line internally, we can't change info according one episode... I also wants to give reference links which proves my contribution correct. Give me sometime as I am quite busy. Annabais (talk) 05:08, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

I also can saw each claim wrong which claimed by Suchitra Sen. But give me time I also had a proof. Annabais (talk) 05:09, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

@cyphoidbomb Mr. Bajaj was introduced as NEGATIVE role and he played as negative role with about 2 to 3 years, later he changed to support role but never became lead. And for this reference you can't consider one particular episode, but you have to consider multiple episode. Annabais (talk) 05:13, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Bajaj cliked photos and blackmail Prerna via Mr. Patel in His daughter Vishakha and Vineet's engagement party... I will list a number of episode once I get time. None my claim was wrong I had proof and I will gave. Annabais (talk) 05:15, 18 October 2020 (UTC)

Admin's involvement is needed for below mentioned problem
Hello admin ,

Here before few days ago one person try to create one more section name " Episode" and in that he/she add description of every single episode, here serial contain 1423 episodes, as per Wiki norms it is not allowed to add this kind of long information. First two times I removed that section with note that this isn't allowed, but he simultaneously continue to undo edits and before few days ago he created another page where he add description of every single episode. I request a admin to have a look for both pages, a page which created for episode description you will find from recent history details.

I also request admin to make a page as semi protected to avoid this kind of intervention.

Thank you. Annabais (talk) 13:33, 30 May 2021 (UTC)

"Kzk" listed at Redirects for discussion
An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect Kzk and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 8 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion. Q28 (talk) 06:04, 8 January 2022 (UTC)

Admin Involvement needed to stop disruptive editing
Hello, admin from last couple of days few were tried to change in disruptive manner as well with wrong information. Once I tried to stop but they continued with different ways. Please check past few days edit. Request you to please make this page as protected, for further disruption. Annabais (talk) 11:02, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

Disambiguate edit
hello, I would like to inform that your recent edit on Kasautii Zindagii Kay 2001 page is removed because of vague information. Thank you Hectoedias (talk) 11:50, 2 September 2023 (UTC)