Talk:Kasur

kasur dot org
Hello. I thought that I should outline the reasons for my constant removal of this link and see if anybody else has thoughts on it.

Reasons it's spam:
 * It was first added when there was no content, just a name and a phone number. It was still being added even when there was a main page with no subpages.
 * This diff.
 * There is a clear WP:COI here, which I'll leave it at that unless I am asked to explain further.
 * Link has been added to inappropriate articles and is always placed on top of the External links section and often replacing official link in infobox.
 * I tried to compromise here and leave the link only in EL section and not on top, which was promptly changed back to top of section and inserted into infobox.
 * The spammer has claimed the site to be the official site, even though it is not. Although sometimes calling it "Kasur City Website, never has put "official" in there.

Other reasons it's inappropriate:
 * The site that it is copied from has the "This site may harm your computer" Google result (Google link)
 * This site also previously did. It has been changed, but could always change back.
 * Just a few minutes ago, I discovered that this is quite possibly a WP:LINKVIO. A random page I looked at was a copy and paste (copyright violation) of http://www.khushab.gop.pk/Administration.html. I looked at another page and it was copied from http://www.dawn.com/weekly/books/archive/020922/books6.htm. One page was a copy and paste of our article Noor Jehan. Another page was a copy of http://www.dawn.com/weekly/herald/herald50.htm. I'm sure that I could find more or be more specific if requested.

That's all I have, if I'm missing or overlooking something here, please let me know. Apparition11 Complaints / Mistakes  15:53, 29 November 2009 (UTC)

I said that it was previously listed as an attack site and said that it could change back. Well, the warning that it is an attack site is back. Apparition11 Complaints / Mistakes  03:37, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

And apparently, this is what the person in question considers discussion. Apparition11 Complaints / Mistakes  07:02, 12 January 2010 (UTC)

And now, the website even says on the front page "Website Is Virus". Apparition11 Complaints / Mistakes  06:31, 25 January 2010 (UTC)


 * This site has been blacklisted. Let me know if the crap continues using other domains. MER-C 09:21, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Map image breaches policy & has been removed
There is currently a deletion discussion taking place at Commons regarding File:Map on Dialects Of Punjabi Language.jpg, which can be viewed. Regardless of whether the map image is deleted at Commons, I think that it needs to be removed from all English Wikipedia articles because it breaches our synthesis policy. The image creator has provided a long list of sources in the deletion discussion and it is evident from those that none contain all of the information shown in the image, nor is it a simple task to work out which bits of information were gleaned from which source(s). We simply do not permit people to aggregate information in this way. It should also be noted that the chances are very high that the various sources did not even adopt the same methodology in compiling their data, which makes the analysis of the creator even more suspect. I have removed the image because the Commons discussion may end up as something other than "delete" and yet the thing is still invalid on English Wikipedia. - Sitush (talk) 21:04, 19 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Map was deleted on two reasons. 1... Commons deletion discussion but now Deletion request by Sitush has been rejected on Wikimedia Commons. 2... Sitush has a self perception that map is synthesis, which is actually not because it is based on latest research of 2007 in the Publication named 'The Indo-Aryan Languages' by George Cardona and Dhanesh Jain. So I am re inserting it. Unless Sitush prove it again as a synthesis and refer me the areas of map being synthesized also mentioning the different publications along with page numbers where from in his kind opinion I have synthesized the map.Maria0333 (talk) 08:23, 22 March 2013 (UTC)

Kasur website
Can editors who are reverting the link actually look at the two links? There is no website here. This goes to a site which claims to be the official site of Kasur. Given the state of the Internet in this part of the world, I wouldn't be surprised if a local government turned to a service like blogspot to host their website. -- Neil N  talk to me  15:54, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
 * The Blogspot site is unofficial as the page has no connection to the government as is run by some guy, it's probably used as a community fan site or something related to that. The old one, which should be the real one, with the top level government domain seems to be out of service. ///Euro Car  GT  16:22, 13 October 2013 (UTC)

Edit request, 27 November 2013
I want to add some information about Kasur.

Amjadzafarali (talk) 07:53, 27 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please make your request in a "change X to Y" format. --Stfg (talk) 10:26, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Legend
User:Pratiksharma172000 inserted this text at the start of the History section: "According to legend, it is widely believed that the city of Kasur was founded by Kusha the son of Hindu god, Rama. Similarly, the city of Lahore was founded by his twin brother Lava." I reverted because it made two claims without giving sources for either of them. First, it claims a legend exists. Second, it claims this legend is widely believed. In discussion on his own talk page, Pratiksharma172000 points to three possible sources: Does anyone reading this have reliable sources for the legend's existence or for belief in it? It may be that we will ony have reliable sources for the existence of the legend, in which case I suggest the wording is changed. In any case, I would suggest any text that is verifiable should appear after the paragraphs which provide a general introduction to the area's history. NebY (talk) 17:58, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia, which is not a reliable source
 * a website s/he describes as the official website of Kasur city but which does not itself claim to be official and its domain is registered by a private individual; also, the website gives no sources for the existence of the legend and does not claim it is widely believed. It does give a more mundane account of much more recent foundation.
 * Britannica, which is a tertiary source and does not quote references, so is also not a reliable source. It does not say the legend is widely believed.

Population
In the lead it gives the population as "0.36 million", but the infobox gives it as 3.6 million. Google is not very clear on the matter.Geordie (talk) 23:40, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi Geordie - The reference cited in the lead actually gives 245,321 in 1998, World population review here gives 290,643 in 2019, politic.pk gives 358,409 for 2017-18, but the "official"  Pakistan bureau of statistics, gives a "page not found" result, even though it is listed in a google search. I suspect that, as often happens, someone is confusing the district population {3,454,996) with the city population.


 * I have no idea how reliable politicpk.com is, but it is already cited 56 times in our articles, whereas, although worldpopulationreview.com is cited 253 times, this covers the whole world. I have, therefore used the higher figure from politicpk.com and cited it in the article - Arjayay (talk) 09:28, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
 * Thanks Arjayay. Geordie (talk) 16:59, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

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