Talk:Kate Beckinsale/Archive 1

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Why would anyone remove that beautiful image of Kate? The rights are all in order, the image was posted by the photographer. Stop removing the images. If you don't like where it is, then move it, but don't just remove it. That rubbish has to stop. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.126.242.84 (talk • contribs)


 * Because you're using Wikipedia to advertise your photography business, that's why. NawlinWiki 00:19, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

Removed this section:


 * As a teenager she suffered junk in the trunk... king habit, with which she still struggles.

More relevant for People magazine piece than an encyclopedia article. Many women suffer from anorexia and/or smoke, unless this has some special bearing on her work as an actress, why mention it? --Lexor 07:47, 5 Oct 2003 (UTC)


 * I agree. Also, she is a work of art. We should include that. Poromenos 21:45, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Regarding Beckinsale's Burmese ancestry: the internet is rife with references to her maternal grandfather being Burmese. However, biographies of Kate's father, Richard Beckinsale, indicate that _he_ was the parent with Burmese ancestry, rather than Kate's mother, Judy Loe. So which is it? El Draque 12:41, 12 September 2005 (UTC)

You probably read about her mother being Burmese on the IMDB. That would be just another of the many howling errors, joing Jamie Lynn Discala's mother being Greek or Burt Reynolds's mother being Italian. I frankly think IMDB should become like Wikipedia and let the sensible correct the mistakes of the ignorant.


 * IMDB does allow corrections - its just taht there is a delay whilst additions are "vetted". It now reads "Richard Beckinsale's maternal grandfather - her great-grandfather - was Burmese." -- Beardo 00:14, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Eh, for every mistake it "vetts" there are 10 it doesn't. This is why most of the junky trivia sites out there now use Wikipedia info, while once they used IMDB. This is also why IMDB needs to, well, probably outright fire anyone in charge of accepting trivia, and hire me, :) or anyone who at least cares to verify the trivia before posting it, as well as go over the info already posted, since so much is outright wrong. Mad Jack 08:16, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Anyway, her father was 1/4th Burmese "In fact, Beckinsale is faintly sloe-eyed, and as a child she says she was "very oriental-looking". This is a legacy from her father, actor Richard Beckinsale, who was a quarter Burmese." 

I am going to take her out of Multiracial, Eurasian, etc. because clearly she'd be just 1/8th Burmese. Vulturell 08:45, 7 October 2005 (UTC)

Relationship with Jim Norton.
I removed the Norton refernce. She isn't dating him yet. They met on the Tonight show when the both appeared and he invited her to one of his shows in New York City. Nothing further has come from this.
 * Someone added it and enhances the story just to add a wiki link to Opie & Anthony. Their fans do this all over the web in a desperate attempt at getting Opie & Anthony’s name out there. Redd Dragon 03:29, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

Paternal or maternal
This article claims Kate Beckinsale's grandfather was maternal Burmese, while the Kate Beckinsale article claims paternal, so which is it? One of these articles is incorrect. (For now, since on this talk page it claims maternal, I am going to switch it to that, but someone can change it if they find evidence otherwise.) Эйрон Кинни  (t) 02:15, 25 June 2006 (UTC)


 * Kate's maternal great-grandfather would be on HER mother's side. Not the same thing as Richard's maternal parentage. -- Beardo 05:50, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
 * Nothing claims maternal except for the IMDB and the various trivia sites that copied it, including at one point Wikipedia. This is a good source, straight out of Beckinsale's mouth. Mad Jack 06:52, 5 July 2006 (UTC)


 * And I suspect IMDB got it from a misreading of Wikipedia! (But its impossible to tell as IMDB doesn't give history). -- Beardo 23:06, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

It is a paternal connection, as shown above. MarkThomas 17:18, 17 November 2006 (UTC)


 * I've just been watching an ITV documentary on her father ("The Unforgettable Richard Beckinsale") which says that he said he was 1/8th Burmese, which means that it would be one of Kate's great-great-grandparents who was Burmese. -- Arwel (talk) 16:16, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Correct information
The movie "Haunted" is from 1995, not 2003, as stated. See at IMDB. - —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.218.208.14 (talk • contribs) on 10:37, 13 December 2006


 * Indeed - that was added a little while ago. Bizarre. But you could have corrected it. -- Beardo 02:28, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

OU Insider Babe Tourney??
Is this relevant? OUinsider.com is merely an OU sports/recruiting web ring ran by Oklahoma Sooners fans that happens to be affiliated with ESPN. I don't think this is the type of award that merits being included ,especially with the rest. Basically a handful of OU Sooner 20 somethings think she's hot - that's not really important. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.92.177.229 (talk) 22:15, 12 July 2009 (UTC)

Full name
Out of curiosity, where did we get the full name Kathryn Bailey Beckinsale? I've never seen that listed anywhere...

It's from the IMDB Birth Names index - probably correct, most of the IMDB ones are, although alas it also does contain errors sometimes. Not seen it anywhere else at all and I have followed Ms Beckinsale for many years. MarkThomas 19:41, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

Y'know... I tried following her once... She wasn't best pleased.86.31.111.119 01:37, 6 September 2007 (UTC)


 * lol It's called 'obssession'. Most physically attractive women unfortunately have to endure men that lack self-control and appropriation (until their man quickly comes over & smashes your face in). These types of 'obssessed' men also get nowhere fast. I say leave a woman alone *esp. actresses* unless you're conducting official business like 'interviewing' or even something quick and modest like an 'autograph' or a very VERY! brief conversation. Other than that, stay away from them. --Ulterion (talk) 19:06, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I'm not one to often accuse others of howlingly missing the point, but I believe 86 was punning on the alternative meaning of 'following'.87.194.43.133 (talk) 23:38, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Following - (transitive) To go or come after in physical space.
 * ex: Follow that car!
 * Stalk - To (try to) follow or contact someone constantly, often resulting in harassment.


 * Pretty close to each other if you ask me! He was referring to physically following her, not figuratively (as in following a train of thought). I'm just saying it's best to not 'follow' actors and/or actresses (especially actresses) to avoid being labeled a stalker/harasser. They don't like being pestered by random people they don't know and will often get you locked up for it. So, just don't! --Ulterion (talk) 05:08, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Ulterion, I'm sorry to say you've really missed the point here. 86 ('twas me) was riffing off of MarkThomas' statement, of figuratively 'following' (OED CDv2, senses 10,11) with literally 'following' (OED CDv2, senses 1,3,5). At no point did 86 ever really mean that he/she actually, in reality, stalked Beckinsale. It was a pun. A joke. A play on words. I promise not to do it again. But thank you for the free, unsolicited, advice; I don't know what I'd've done without it.87.194.43.133 (talk) 20:39, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Well, pardon me for the lack of understanding/interpretation. It flew right over my head! LoL.. I'm just trying to give sound advice jic anyone literally attempts to 'follow' any (actor/actress)'s because there're some potentially serious consequences for those that dare swim in deep waters if approach isn't warranted by the individual first. --Ulterion (talk) 04:51, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

Malays ?
Theb categories European-Malays and English-Malays have been added. We don't need both - but is there any source for either. The article says her ancestry is Burmese, not Malay. -- Beardo 17:37, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

Daughter's name?
This page says 'Lily Mo Sheen', whereas Martin Sheen's page says 'Lily Rose Sheen'. 86.31.111.119 01:35, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

2008 Critics' Choice
Sorry. The BFCA link is broken all of a sudden. New one from CBS news: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/12/09/entertainment/awards/main4657421.shtml —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jharris700 (talk • contribs) 22:46, 9 December 2008 (UTC)

Information about Underworld at bottom of page
At the bottom of this biography page about Kate Beckinsale there is a table with information about her Underworld movies. Should this be there? I was surprised that a table about just one of her acting projects was on her biography page. Shouldn't this be somewhere else, with a link perhaps from this page? I didn't want to remove information that someone obviously spent time and effort making, and it's a great table. I also don't know where to move it to? Or perhaps it should be there? So I thought I'd post on the talk page so someone else could decide what to do about this. 77.99.164.88 (talk) 02:33, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree... it seems extremely misplaced. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 17:40, 8 February 2009 (UTC)

Underworld Rise of the Lycans
Kate IS in this movie. Why do people keep removing her from the credits on her page? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.16.161.188 (talk) 17:32, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

Yes, she is in the movie in the intro and outro scenes. They were originally filmed for Underworld_(2003_film) and are reused here (http://www.shocktillyoudrop.com/news/topnews.php?id=9115). She is listed in the end titles (http://s5.tinypic.com/2z4idyb.jpg), in the Underworld:_Rise_of_the_Lycans Wikipedia article and on IMDB (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0834001/fullcredits#cast) so the next revert should probably have a pretty good explanation why the credit should not be listed in this article. 80.95.152.134 (talk) 09:28, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Bloody Disgusting
One of the links in this article is to Bloody Disgusting, which claims Kate will be appearing in Underworld 4. Kate herself has not confirmed this, nor has anybody associated with the film. BD itself even states that the "source" is not anyone associated with film or the studio itself. The writer himself even flat-out stated this is nothing more than a rumor. A later article cites Variety magazine, but I have found no evidence that this alleged article even exists, or that it says what BD claims it does. Since this article is just speculation (whereas the Variety article would be official), it needs to be removed until an official one can be found. My idea being that there's no website confirming what Kate allegedly told Variety except BD, which I find somewhat strange, as at least one of her fansites should have picked up on that, or any of the other upcoming movie sites. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.138.112.29 (talk) 19:37, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Edited to add: I went through all of Variety's articles from the time period when BD posted their comment. The only articles of relevance were two on the 4th movie that didn't mention Kate at all, and one saying they're transforming the 1st film into 3D. There is not a single article that actually says what BD claims it does. Since there's no evidence Kate is signed on, and it directly contradicts quotes from her saying she isn't part of it, as well as quotes from the writer also saying she isn't signed on, this reference needs to be removed. There's no factual evidence she's in the movie at all. 71.21.111.49 (talk) 13:11, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

Userbox image
Hello. I'm fine with the image reversion, but I'm open to discussion as well. I'm simply trying to find the truest slightly-enhanced version of the original image. The current one, imo, really is too green/blue, and is so overbrightened, details have been washed out. The original image is warmer; my version wasn't right either (the ambient colors were too saturated). I've uploaded a better version, which follows the standard three-point color correction (black, white, midgray) (my original upload used a color correction process for landscapes, which was my mistake). Also, a conversation of note is taking place at Commons, here. Is the new image better suited for this article then? – Kerαu noςco pia ◁ gala xies 16:09, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * The new image looks fine to me. Sorry for not bringing it to discussion earlier! Popeye191 (talk) 17:14, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Great, I'll re-add it then. No worries on the original revert, and great job with the GA! – Kerαu noςco pia ◁ gala xies 00:13, 3 January 2012 (UTC)

Step-brothers
http://www.entertainmentwise.com/news/50150/Kate-Beckinsale-Takes-Over-From-Halle-Berry-As-Sexiest-Woman-Alive

In this article, along with several others, she notes that she has four step brothers, should this be mentioned anywhere, such as the early life section? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.14.48.104 (talk) 12:54, 5 April 2011 (UTC)


 * They don't qualify as early life, as they have only been her stepbrothers since 1997, when her mother married their father. Jim Michael (talk) 18:13, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

She has an elder step-sister too, as mentioned in her fathers wiki entry about his passing while she was young. Either way the statement that she has no siblings has to be seen as misleading at best.. and is in fact utterly factually incorrect--MRNasher (talk) 19:30, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
 * She *is* the only child of the married couple Richard Beckinsale and Judy Loe. Her father had a child with another woman before Kate was born - this is mentioned in the early life section. Her mother went on to have a relationship with Roy Battersby but they didn't marry until Kate was much older. Battersby had five children and this is mentioned in the early life section too.

Name (Romany, not Bailey)
Where did "Bailey" come from??? Her name is Kate Romany Beckinsale (look up source 1) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Excaliboor (talk • contribs) 06:52, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Since last change (in this article) from "Bailey" to "Romany" I've digged into really the heap of sources - but have not found any records about Kates full name, neither "Bailey" or "Romany". Most sources including IMDB just copy wiki information. Of course "DMail" is such an competent source, but (IMHO) it seems better to find at least one other source which mentions Kates second name (the source with it's own information, not copy-pasting one). So, it seems better to save current version, at least it is something like tradition to call Kate Beckinsale with this second name )).. Vladmax (talk) 18:06, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Surprisingly, "Romary" is correct. That's what the British Birth Records (available at ancestry.com, for example) state, corroborated here. Her birth name is "Kathrin" also. All Hallow&#39;s Wraith (talk) 16:43, 23 January 2012 (UTC)

Pictures of other actors?
Why are there so many pictures of other actors who co starred with her? This is really unusual. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.230.204.195 (talk) 05:28, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I was thinking the same thing. I removed one but will see what others think. --Mollskman (talk) 01:48, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I added the pictures because it was suggested in a peer review of Michael Sheen's article that related pictures should be added to make a longish article less daunting for the reader. I have no objections if you want to remove them. Popeye191 (talk) 13:44, 28 January 2012 (UTC)

Is this what wiki has come to?
Gossip mags being used to detail unencyclopedic allegations about personal relationships? Her fans should instead stick to fan sites rather than injecting garbage in to wikipedia. 108.172.114.141 (talk) 22:03, 22 April 2012 (UTC)

Grandfather's grandfather was Burmese
Should this even be included? Has she made note of it? --Mollskman (talk) 15:24, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

I see no reason it should be in the header at all. It is an extremely small amount.Duhon (talk) 13:21, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Can someone explain why info about her ancestry was removed from "Early life"? Is there a particular reason why is this not allowed? Or undesired? Pessimist2006 (talk) 17:13, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
 * Allrighty then, I'm restoring it, considering her being part Burmese isn't something disputable. Pessimist2006 (talk) 22:55, 17 August 2012 (UTC)
 * She has made note of it by stating she looked "very Oriental" as a child. Also, her grandfather's father was Burmese. Her grandfather was half Burmese. ToriJana (talk) 19:13, 18 February 2013 (UTC)

Poor taste and irrelevant junk
I agree with the prior comment in general terms. Parts of this article are unacceptably gossipy. That would not be so bad if the material in question simply amounted to overenthusiastic fan talk, but there should not and must not be any subtle (or unsubtle) denigration of the subject.

Ms. Beckinsale has a significant career as a professional actor. Her appearances in absurd lists of "most (something) in the world" clearly do not belong in any encyclopedia. For similar reasons, the budgets, gross receipts and profits of films in which Beckinsale has appeared are irrelevant and offensive. Beckinsale was one of many actors appearing in the films discussed here. She bears no responsibility for financial success or failure. Any reader looking for such details can easily follow links to relevant information about specific films.

I strongly maintain that such unrelated trivia ought to be excised from the article. However, because editors here have clearly devoted a lot of time and energy to the page, I am not going to take such a drastic action unilaterally. Instead, I request that the points I am making be carefully considered in discussions here, leading to a cleanup. Dratman (talk) 04:15, 7 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Definitely agree. I have removed some of the uber personal, unencyclopedic crap.  There is probably more that needs to be removed.  The entire article projects an image vastly bigger than the relatively obscure actress she is.  71.226.193.9 (talk) 23:21, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

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Langauges are equal
Either we list all languages spoken by the person or none.Xx236 (talk) 07:44, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
 * We list those that are sourced for her having some fluency in them. Andy Dingley (talk) 11:44, 23 November 2016 (UTC)

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Insert reference?
In 2016, she appeared in the critically acclaimed Love & Friendship, for which her performance received worldwide praise.

In the header paragraph, can a reference be inserted? I always consider such sweeping statements as both a (gentle) irritant and opportunity. Gprobins (talk) 15:24, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

As a teenager, she was first-place at the Youth's Burp for Fame contest
https://www.askmen.com/celebs/women/actress_100/117_kate_beckinsale.html

69.181.23.220 (talk) 01:41, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

No mention of Russian fluency
I'm curious as to why there is no reference to her speaking fluent Russian? I remember Stephen Colbert mentioning this fact when she appeared on The Late Show with Stephen Colbert, just before they did a bit in which she taught him how to say silly things in Russian. Metrowestjp (talk) 17:40, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Is there a reference we can use that supports that? Geraldo Perez (talk) 19:00, 1 June 2018 (UTC)
 * 69.181.23.220 (talk) 01:52, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * 69.181.23.220 (talk) 01:52, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * 69.181.23.220 (talk) 01:52, 29 August 2018 (UTC)

No mention of Beckinsale as Home-Wrecker with Wiseman on Underworld in Budapest

 * the article is about Beckinsale, Wiseman, Sheen, and Lily in Halifax, Nova Scotia for Snow Angels (film)

69.181.23.220 (talk) 00:36, 30 August 2018 (UTC)


 * There is actually a mention in the current version of the article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.172.85.252 (talk) 10:17, 6 September 2018 (UTC)