Talk:Kate DiCamillo

Grammatically Incorrect or citation needed
The last sentence in paragraph two of Personal life reads: Her brother, Curt DiCamillo, is a noted architectural artifact. This seems to be grammatically incorrect as a person cannot be an artifact.

Also, "Newbery" is spelled wrong in the first paragraph. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.106.94.136 (talk) 16:01, 17 March 2009 (UTC) caralho desta merda vam se foder —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.154.93.58 (talk) 18:41, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

vandalism
Removed from the end of 'Life' section Irish Melkite (talk) 09:12, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you for removing the vandalism, however there is no point in repeating the slur here.-- Jezebel's Ponyo bons mots 21:39, 5 August 2015 (UTC)

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Dated information no more
I changed "is" to "was" and removed the flag for dated information. That takes care of the problem, no? KC 04:13, 10 March 2016 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boydstra (talk • contribs)

Comments

 * "an older brother and often a pet dog" reads sort of like "Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana."
 * Why does moving to Clermont help pneumonia?
 * The warm climate- should I add something about this? Eddie891 Talk Work 13:42, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Maybe a teensy bit just to clarify? AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 16:45, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Added a mention, not sure if it's great as is, however... Eddie891 Talk Work 16:14, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Anything about her early life between elementary school and college?
 * Not really that I could find. Which makes some amount of sense given that interviewers pretty much only ask her about the demographic she writes books for
 * "sat around for the next seven or eight years" - I may be wrong but I think we usually cite any direct quotes directly after the quote
 * Sure, can do
 * Is a "picker" the same thing as a "buyer" in other retail contexts?
 * "waking up at 4:00 am before her shifts on weekdays to write around two pages" - how early were the shifts? Two pages doesn't seem like a lot unless the shifts were at like 5 …
 * Not sure on this one... cut the two pages and four am specification because I bet it's an over generalization
 * Is Jane Resh Thomas notable? Being encouraged by her doesn't seem DUE unless we should have an article on JRT.
 * On a quick search, yes almost definitely meets NAUTHOR . I've redlinked Eddie891 Talk Work 01:14, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * A few sentences like the following could use breaking up as they're either run-ons or confusing. These look like classic crowdsourced prose that just needs to be smoothed out. "DiCamillo moved to Minneapolis in 1994, following a close friend, and after several jobs was hired to work in The Bookman, a book warehouse and distributor, as a picker, eventually in the children's book section, a placement that she was initially disappointed over."
 * "DiCamillo's first book to be accepted for publication was Because of Winn-Dixie by Candlewick Press ..." Is this meant to indicate that Candlewick Press was the publisher that accepted it? It reads as if Candlewick Press wrote it, which obviously it didn't.
 * "She was offered and signed a contract." Was the thing "offered" a contract or something else (a broader deal, perhaps?) What was the contract for?
 * Why should we be relying on Mpls St Paul Magazine for literary criticism?
 * "The success of her books was described in 2006 by a Candlewick Press as being a "cornerstone" of the publisher's success." Looks like a missing word between "a" and "Candlewick". Also the passive voice is jarring here—it looks like the sentence was written to avoid WP:PROSELINE but it comes off more awkward than just repeating "In [X year], ..."
 * Is a "china rabbit" a rabbit made of porcelain?
 * Throughout, the Writing career and recognition section reads as quite list-y. I wonder if it and Analysis could be combined? Or if some of the necessarily more listy content (awards, etc) could be worked into the bibliography section?
 * Perhaps I could split the less exciting awards to an awards (sub)section? Eddie891 Talk Work 01:21, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I never quite know what to with awards. They don't say very much other than that "hey, this person was recognized by this organization". I personally feel it's clearer and cleaner to use list style with things like that but my sense is that most people disagree? AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 05:59, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Moved a bunch of them out, left a few residual ones Eddie891 Talk Work 15:20, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
 * "rediscovered in 2018" - confused about how a manuscript by a living novelist could be (re)discovered
 * What makes Victorian or Edwardian children's literature distinctive as genres and how is KDiC's work similar to that? Very interesting idea that could use development. This sentence would also benefit from a cite right after it I think.
 * "According to the Journal of the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry" - unless it's an editorial, this should be attributed to the authors of the article, not to the journal. Also why is a psychiatry journal featured so prominently in this context?
 * Analysis could use some clearer focus for each graf - it's kind of hard to follow the thread rn. WP:RECEPTION might have some ideas.
 * "In that style, she usually only writes one book at a time." What is "that style"?
 * Some sticklers may demand cites for each book in the bibliography if it's not bluelinked or mentioned elsewhere. I'm not one of them, but I've been burned before (at least at WP:ITNRD) so something to watch out for.
 * Do secondary sources distinguish between chapter books and novels in her corpus (or picture books, for that matter)? Faintest tinge of OR here.
 * Maybe we should trim the bibliography to a selected one? Eddie891 Talk Work 15:21, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
 * ELs could use some trimming.
 * Done
 * If you will be taking to FAC, the cites should be in a consistent style. I actually like doing that sort of thing so would be happy to convert non-templated refs to CS1 if you like.
 * Another look at the cites for the awards section would be good - I see one cited to an archived page on google docs ...
 * "Upon taking that role, she utilized the theme 'Stories Connect Us'" - what does it mean to "utilize a theme"? This sentence reads awkwardly to me in general.

Thanks for the message. Most of these are pretty minor. Main overall substantive comment, especially after a lot of time recently spent over at Featured article review/J. K. Rowling/archive1, is that Analysis could use an infusion of scholarly sources (if any exist—I'll have a look and am happy to send you PDFs, courtesy of my university, if you can't get them via WP library) and a clearer structure. At the moment I'm not sure if the sourcing for that section meets WP:WIAFA 1(c). But again, this really depends on whether such scholarly sources exist. I've been struck by how much scholarly work there is on children's lit generally, but of course that says nothing about whether there's anything on KDiC in particular. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 00:53, 10 February 2022 (UTC)


 * I was rather upset at how little scholarly analysis of her work I could find, especially compared to some of the other children's lit I've looked at... If you find anything please do let me know.Thanks for taking a look, I'll go through and respond as I can find the time! Eddie891 Talk Work 01:03, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * I had a look and you're right—there are reviews in scholarly journals of plenty of her books but none of the broader-brush criticism I was expecting. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 05:59, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

Birth name and place
These basic biographical details are always surprisingly hard to track down: Thoughts? AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 16:20, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
 * "Katrina Elizabeth DiCamillo" is also attested here, which looks like a bio for young readers, but I see no reason not to trust it (pace the typo reproduced below). But I don't see it in that many other places.
 * I agree, I asked on the ref desk/H, and nobody found much else attesting to it. But no real reason to doubt it, either. Kinda strange. I can definitely imagine a kids book author checking Wikipedia/Britannica and mindlessly repeating what they saw there... Eddie891 Talk Work 01:17, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
 * All sources I've seen agree in 25 March 1964.
 * Contemporary Authors says "Merion, PA", which must mean Merion Station, Pennsylvania; also says Merion; Something About the Author says Philadelphia;  says Philadelphia without giving a precise birth year;  also says Philadelphia; Sue Corbett's bio says "a Pennyslvania (sic) hospital near Philadelphia", which seems like the most likely candidate to be completely accurate.
 * Perhaps I will message her via twitter or similar and ask for clarification-- then we can have a better idea of what to trust, even though it of course wouldn't be acceptable as a source here. Eddie891 Talk Work 01:17, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
 * OK, no tweets... perhaps via somewhere else... Eddie891 Talk Work 01:17, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Maybe FB Eddie891 Talk Work 01:18, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Sometimes authority file entries such as those at can be useful, but my initial look at those (sometimes the Library of Congress ones will indicate that one of their staffers called the writer and got them to confirm stuff) didn't reveal anything we didn't know already. Short of OR-lite on FamilySearch or similar, I don't know what else to suggest. One could always write " ... was born in or near Philadelphia" with an efn to explain further. AleatoryPonderings (???) (!!!) 00:05, 16 February 2022 (UTC)