Talk:Kathleen Rice

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Given that Kathleen Rice is running for New York's 4th congressional district seat I think this page should be at least semi-protected and certain language within the article should be modified to keep it from looking like an ad. Specifically any language that refers to her "delivering" on campaign promises, uncited proclamations of her being a "national leader", vague and non-informative statements like Rice "worked with Collegeboard (how so?), the multiple citations of her campaign website and just the fact that there is no criticism in the article and an entire section of praise. It seems obvious from this article's history and the talk section that this article is subject to edits from biased users.--(talk) 15:53, 6 August 2014 (UTC)cfisc521 August 2014

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Would the person who keeps erasing the entry regarding Rice's corrupt hiring practices please cease and desist?

The tale of Kathleen Rice's corrupt and unprofessional hiring practices is neither a fabrication nor a personal attack. It is a fact. The story has been verified by Newsday, a publication which originally supported Rice's candidacy, so it seems unreasonable to classify this story as a personal attack. Facts, no matter how unsavory, must be acknowledged.

Nassau County voters have the right to this information in order to keep politicians accountable to both their campaign promises.

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The following IP addresses have removed pertinent information from this article with no explanation:


 * 69.117.83.174, several times
 * 12.103.148.197
 * 69.122.112.215
 * 68.194.119.160

Paul 18:13, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

12.103.148.197 has also (twice) removed the text of this talk page. Paul 00:58, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

Early versions of this web page were not balanced, and looked like campaign ads for Kathleen Rice, comparing her to Elliott Ness, and commenting on her aggressive style. While the Rice Campaign is free to update Wikipedia, it is important that Wiki present a balanced and more complete look at Rice.

The characterization of her as aggressive by the early authors must also be balanced, especially considered that nearly all prosecutors are aggressive people to begin with. Certainly Rice has been aggressive in prosecuting Drunk Driving cases, and in those cases has been compassionate with Victims. However, there is not much support for Rice being more aggressive than her fellow prosecutors on other types of crimes. And the evidence that is out there suggests that she is reluctant to use forensic evidence in assault cases. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Newyorkx2007 (talk • contribs) 17:23, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

There are multiple mentions of Rice winning awards, but no sources are cited to substantiate these except the Nassau County DA's own web site. For an elected official, there should be third party mentions of these awards.

This Wiki bio mentions that Rice is a resident of Locust Valley, although in May of 2010 her own Campaign web site indicated that she once again lives in Garden City, New York, where she grew up. Her bio may need to be updated on that point. http://www.kathleenrice.com/biography.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by Newyorkx2007 (talk • contribs) 19:08, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

There is a mention that certain types of crime rates "plummeted" after Rice took office. These ought to be backed up by some objective sources. What are they? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Newyorkx2007 (talk • contribs) 18:11, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Let's not overuse the cite tags
Cite tags can of course be a useful tool, but we need to be careful not to overuse them. It might be more appropriate to tag the whole article, for instance, if there are numerous statements that are likely true, but need better sourcing. Croctotheface (talk) 03:08, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Instead of adding cite tags, statements that aren't supported by the sources could be deleted. A cite tag is an invitation to those who want to keep the material in to provide a WP:RS in support before it gets deleted. -- Nbauman (talk) 14:48, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

This page still reads like an ad
From the first sentence ("cruising to reelection") and throughout, this article uses extremely positive language, with nothing negative or even neutral. This is a problem in an encyclopedia. But it seems as though certain editors have been going through and removing all the negative information (as discussed above). How should we fix this? -Pegasus-BSG62 (talk) 07:31, 10 May 2010 (UTC)

Semi-protect?
I suggest protecting the page from anonymous edits.

I agree that the current page looks like an advertisement. I see that anonymous editors have made many changes in violation of WP:NPOV. I think it would be better to go back to an earlier version, such as http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kathleen_M._Rice&action=historysubmit&diff=323659466&oldid=323612719

I'm an uninvolved editor. I looked up Rice because I was curious about her after reading a New York Daily News story about her. https://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2010/08/04/2010-08-04_lived_the_high_life_ag_hopeful_rice_admits_to_pot_coke_use_in_her_20s_calls_it_s.html?obref=obnetwork

The NYDN story raises the point that (like other candidates) she admitted smoking marijuana and using cocaine in her 20s. This is certainly well-sourced and relevant under WP:WEIGHT for someone who is running for a public office in which she will be making policy decisions on this issue. The hiring controversy, and all the other controversies, are also relevant under WP:NPOV.

I will be interested to see if Wikipedia's neutrality and objectivity can be maintained in a page about an election candidate. -- Nbauman (talk) 14:54, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

Changes by "Friends of Kathleen Rice" should be reverted as damage
On October 24, Friends of Kathleen Rice removed many sections in the Kathleen Rice article including the only wikipedia mention of the Hofstra Gang Rape Hoax that Rice prosecuted.

I propose these changes be reverted. 184.101.124.118 (talk) 22:07, 25 October 2013 (UTC)

Agreed. CSDarrow (talk) 13:40, 26 October 2013 (UTC)

flush the johns sting?
How is there no mention of the "sting" in which she not only had police officers, male and female, pose as prostitutes, but actually humiliated the 104 men, ruining careers and marriages, by publicly posting their pictures and names? The men ranged in age from a 17-year-old boy to a 79-year-old lawyer. Surely something this egregious deserves a place on this page? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.6.206.248 (talk) 22:11, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

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