Talk:Katy Perry discography/Archive 4

Semi-protected edit request on 24 January 2018
Under SINGLES, it lists "If We Ever Meet Again," however, that should be removed from SINGLES and added to the AS FEATURED ARTIST section because the official track listing says "featuring Katy Perry".

Additionally, I think there would be no harm in clarifying that Hummingbird Heartbeat was an "Australia-only" single. Can't this be added in the title cell? When looking at the table, it is misleading without the clarification.

Everyday Is A Holiday shouldn't even be mentioned on this page and removed from PROMOTIONAL SINGLES. It was never released as any kind of music format. It was never available for purchase. There was never a lyric video or music video for it. It was only used for H&M commercial purposes uploaded on H&M's media channels. It did not promote anything Katy Perry released. Katy didn't even have an H&M clothing line to promote. She was simply the face of their holiday campaign.

Lastly, for accuracy purposes, Hey Hey Hey shouldn't be listed as a SINGLE and should be moved down to OTHER CHARTED SONGS. Just because Italian radio began playing it, doesn't mean it was actually sent to radios. It peaked at number five on the NZ Heatseekers Singles Chart. Until further clarification, it should be moved, just like how Lady Gaga's John Wayne is listed under OTHER CHARTED SONGS. Both were "released" as gifts to fans. --149.69.236.22 (talk) 02:16, 24 January 2018 (UTC) 149.69.236.22 (talk) 02:16, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. The single reference offered is the iTunes listing for one of the requested changes. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 16:12, 24 January 2018 (UTC)

As far as Everyday Is a Holiday, Billboard and Idolator reference it as only a song to accompany H&M's promotional purposes. It does not promote a Katy Perry release.

"Katy Perry is spreading holiday cheer with a new Christmas song called "Every Day Is a Holiday" for H&M's new #HappyAndMerry campaign." - Billboard. The word "single" is never used.

"The slightly cheesy but fun commercial is all set to the singer’s new tune, 'Everyday Is A Holiday.'" - Idolator. Its referred to as H&M's commercial tune. Not a promotional single that promotes Katy's other works.

If We Ever Meet Again is an obvious change. Katy was never the lead artist on it. The source already provided is proof enough.

Hey Hey Hey shouldn't be listed as a SINGLE and should be moved down to OTHER CHARTED SONGS. Just because Italian radio began playing it, doesn't mean it was actually sent to radios. It peaked at number five on the NZ Heatseekers Singles Chart. Until further clarification, it should be moved, just like how Lady Gaga's John Wayne is listed under OTHER CHARTED SONGS. Both were "released" as gifts to fans.

Semi-protected edit request on 17 February 2018
Bon Appetit should be moved down to promotional singles. 149.69.237.19 (talk) 22:27, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
 * ❌ It had entered the Top 100 previously and there is nothing in your link that puts it as promotional. Addicted4517 (talk) 04:05, 3 March 2018 (UTC)

My revisions
Good day. Yesterday, May 12, 2018, I did major revisions and some updates about this article. In particular, I edited the sales and some stuffs related to it. I know some references are really poor and I acknowledge the effort of some people who pointed out those references. However, there are still some of my revisions that I truly believe, are reliable enough, and that should be included here. I do not understand why some here just swiped out all of my edits without even reading all of them. To make it clear, the following are the revisions and updates that should be retained:
 * Worldwide sales of Prism - According to QQ Music, which is a rrliable source, the album has sold more than 12.5 million copies worldwide
 * Please point out where from WP:RSN it says QQ Music is a reliable source. — IB [ Poke ] 06:48, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Check your edit. You even used QQ Music as reference for "Katy Perry has sold 40 million albums..." and now you are questioning if it's reliable or not
 * "Birthday" worldwide sales
 * Already included. — IB [ Poke ] 06:48, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Other charted songs, "Pearl" and "Hummgbird Heartbeat" chart positions in South Korea
 * South Korea charts are not part of this discography. — IB [ Poke ] 06:48, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * My fault. Please restore my edit for Peacock, Pearl and Who Am I Living For? in the other charted songs section. Hummingbird Heartbeat is not included. Check the reference for the chart positions of those songs in South Korea.
 * I added the details of "Hey Hey Hey" and "Hummingbird Heartbeat" stating that these were released as exclusive singles in particular countries
 * Please take note of this. It should be clarified that Hummingbird Heartbeat was released as Australian-only single, Hey Hey Hey as an exclusive single in Italy, and Save as Draft as adult contemporary radio single. The references are included. Please check what I did for these three singles.
 * Katy Perry has sold 40 million albums and 125 million singles. This is true based on the references I used
 * The references I used were Glamor magazine (also used in her Katy Perry article) and Pure Charts (reliable). Pleasr do not remove these two sources.
 * Worldwide sales of "I Kissed a Girl" and "California Gurls" according to IFPI
 * Already included. — IB [ Poke ] 06:48, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

You can check every detail of my latest revision and tell me what should be removed and retained. Please let me know before reverting everything. It is very casual to always ask first. Thank you so much. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dhriege (talk • contribs) 06:45, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Everything has been responded and the things which aren't included are given the reasons as to why. — I<b style="color: #FF033E;">B</b> [ <b style="font-family: Tempus Sans ITC; color: #1C1CF0;">Poke</b> ] 06:48, 13 May 2018 (UTC)

Please check everything. Do not just remove them in one swipe.

Witness sales
Witness has sold 50,000 in France and 900,00 worldwide as of July 2018. http://www.chartsinfrance.net/Katy-Perry/news-107486.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pnubiologist1998 (talk • contribs) 04:02, 17 November 2018 (UTC)

This page does not reflect the actuality of Katy's discography -- Semi-protected edit request on 11 February 2018
Under SINGLES, it lists "If We Ever Meet Again," however, that should be removed from SINGLES and added to the AS FEATURED ARTIST section because the official track listing says "featuring Katy Perry."

Additionally, I think there would be no harm in clarifying that Hummingbird Heartbeat was an "Australia-only" single. Can't this be added in the title cell? When looking at the table, it is misleading without the clarification. It just looks like a blank cell. Hummingbird Heartbeat peaked at #34 on the Australian Hot 100 Airplay charts.

Everyday Is A Holiday shouldn't even be mentioned on this page and removed from PROMOTIONAL SINGLES. It was never released as any kind of music format. It was never available for purchase either. There was never a lyric video or music video for it. It was only used for H&M commercial purposes uploaded on H&M's media channels. It did not promote anything Katy Perry released. Katy didn't even have an H&M clothing line to promote. She was simply the face of their holiday campaign. Billboard and Idolator reference it as only a song to ACCOMPANY H&M's promotional purposes. It does not promote a Katy Perry release.

"Katy Perry is spreading holiday cheer with a new Christmas song called "Every Day Is a Holiday" for H&M's new #HappyAndMerry campaign." - Billboard. The word "single" is never used.

"The slightly cheesy but fun commercial is all set to the singer’s new tune, 'Everyday Is A Holiday.'" - Idolator. Its referred to as H&M's commercial tune. Not a promotional single that promotes Katy's other works.

Lastly, for accuracy purposes, Hey Hey Hey shouldn't be listed as a SINGLE and should be moved down to OTHER CHARTED SONGS. Just because Italian radio began playing it, doesn't mean it was actually sent to radios. It peaked at number five on the New Zealand Heatseekers Singles Chart. Until further clarification, it should be moved, just like how Lady Gaga's John Wayne and Joanne are listed under OTHER CHARTED SONGS.

Just like Hey Hey Hey, John Wayne and Joanne both had music videos. Why is Hey Hey Hey listed as an official single for Katy but John Wayne is listed as "other charted songs?" To make my argument stronger, John Wayne even charted in more countries than Hey Hey Hey! It charted in the UK at 180 number 34 in Hungary. Similarly, Joanne (track) is listed as a promotional single but was released to Italian radio just like Hey Hey Hey.

In summary, It would be great if If We Ever Meet Again is moved down to "as featured artist," Hummingbird Heartbeat is clarified as an Australia-only single, Everyday is a Holiday is removed entirely, and Hey Hey Hey is moved to "other charted songs."

Don't let your bias show. John Wayne has a music video and charted in other counties but is labeled as "other charted songs" but Hey Hey Hey is listed as an official single? It doesn't make sense. Joanne has a music video, was released to Italian radios, and charted in France , Greece , Scottland , and the UK but is only listed as a promotional single when Hey Hey Hey is listed as an official single despite not even officially charting anywhere? (other than a bubbling under chart in NZ ) 74.67.154.190 (talk) 19:55, 11 February 2018 (UTC) 74.67.154.190 (talk) 19:55, 11 February 2018 (UTC)


 * ❌ - Such is the number of changes you want to make you are far better off getting yourself an account and making the changes once you are auto confirmed. Thank you. Addicted4517 (talk) 04:03, 3 March 2018 (UTC)


 * ✅ - I added some notes in the article to address your concerns. Thank you. User:Pnubiologist1998 (talk) 19:31, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Con Calma Remix
Katy was recently featured on the Con Calma Remix so why is not listed in the "As featured artist" section? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:2F0E:C1FF:FFFF:0:0:50D:F969 (talk) 23:24, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

Small Talk
Small Talk Debuted At Number 8 On The Billboard Hot 100 LaVozSA (talk) 11:59, 17 August 2019 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 19 August 2019
The first paragraph needs reworking. As of 8/19/19, it lists that KP has a record 6 5-million selling singles in the US (now she has 10), followed by a record 3 6-million selling singles (now she has 9), followed by 3 Diamond Certifications - first artist (now Eminem also has 3). Any of these records are subject to change which will make this section unmanageable. I propose changing to the following and starting with the most significant. Perry was the first artist to receive Diamond Certifications (selling over 10 million) for 3 singles ("Firework", "Roar", and "Dark Horse") in 2017 which remains a record in August 2019. Perry became the first artist to have 6 singles (the 3 Diamond singles, "Hot N Cold", "California Gurls" & "E.T." in Aug 2019. Source RIAA https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/?advance_search=1&tab_active=awards_by_artist&format_option=singles&type=all#search_section BradLyman (talk) 13:09, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. The RIAA source doesn't list what went Diamond, or 5x/6x Platinum. Sceptre (talk) 21:33, 2 October 2019 (UTC)

Harleys in Hawaii
It was extremely unnecessary to redirect the article. Of course there isn't "real depth" on the song yet, it hasn't been released. You said to wait to create the article when the song is coming out soon, which is literally right now. I mean, a track title is leaked on iTunes and that's enough to create a Taylor Swift song article, but this full announcement with release date and cover art isn't enough? Ridiculous. It's just going to be restored in like a day anyway. And now there's already a Billboard and iHeartRadio article about the song, but God forbid you wait two seconds to redirect it! Billiekhalidfan (talk) 17:00, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
 * On the contrary, I said to create once it IS released. Please read WP:Notability (music) (WP:NSONGS), especially if you haven't already. Release announcements alone don't count because they're just brief mentions AND from a primary source. Commentary from artist, songwriters, labels, producers, etc. also isn't enough for an article as that's just self-promotion. Even non-affiliated sources that do mention it are just discussing the announcement and don't offer depth on the song itself, which won't be available beforehand when they can't listen to it for full lyrics or genres. Other songs shouldn't have had articles before release when their parent album isn't out (when part of an album), but you can't use WP:OTHERSTUFF as a reason to keep premature articles. That's just a cheap excuse, same with "It's just going to be restored in like a day anyway". People need to stop jumping the gun with creating articles too soon. <b style="color:#009900">SNUGGUMS</b> (<b style="color:#009900">talk</b> / <b style="color:#009900">edits</b>) 17:38, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Editors can create song articles whenever they like. It does not have to be on a timeframe you agree with. If I can find a few more sources on the song, I'll be restoring the article later on and if you don't agree, SNUGGUMS, any admin will tell you to not keep redirecting an article, but take it to AfD. (And good luck with that, considering it will be notable if not already very soon.) It's Katy Perry, it's not like singles that are getting a full commercial push by her are not going to be notable. Frankly your arguments are cheap at this point, considering you trot the exact same ones out every time someone creates a song related to an artist you like. There is more on this song out there, considering it first made the news months ago when she was spotted making the video. It's not like the only things that are out there on it are announcements. Besides, keeping the article where it is also a) discourages disruptive editors and newbies from creating the article in some other stupidly titled location that then creates a move task for an admin or someone with page mover permissions to do; and b) allows users who might be more informed on a topic or able to locate sources others can't find to help expand it.  Ss  112   21:01, 14 October 2019 (UTC)

Peacock
According to song's page, it's a promotional singel. Since I cannot edit this article, can somebody move "Peacock" from "Other charted songs" table to "Promotional singles" table? infsai (dyskusja) 22:04, 6 December 2019 (UTC)

Adding the correct sales from Witness and onward?
The sales from Chained To The Rhythm and on are not accurate or they are not added. For example, Chained To The Rhythm sold 2 million copies in the United States alone, yet it says 700,000 worldwide. Never Really Over does not have any sales listed even though it has sold 500,000 copies in the United States, which is very noteworthy. The certifications listed for almost every song on the separate Wikipedia page for that specific song list the sales for said song, and thus they should be added to the discography. The sales numbers are available, yet no one has updated them. Thanks. MattCC17 (talk) 23:45, 25 May 2020 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 9 July 2020
"Harleys in Hawaii" is also included on the Smile album; it is not a non-album single. 208.98.223.36 (talk) 14:04, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done – Jonesey95 (talk) 14:27, 9 July 2020 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 9 July 2020
In discography section: The song "Smile" has an article; add a link to it. 208.98.223.36 (talk) 23:27, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done I do not see a section header called "Discography". Smile is already linked in the section called "Studio albums". – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:16, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 July 2020
Add link to the song "Smile" in "As lead artist" section. 208.98.223.36 (talk) 03:44, 10 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:02, 10 July 2020 (UTC)

Certifications update
The ARIA certification for "Never Really Over" needs to be updated, it has been certified 2xPlatinum, while the current certification is listed as 'Platinum'. Also, "Who You Love" has been certified Gold by RIAA. This certification also needs to be added. I also observed that the number of albums and singles needs to be updated: albums - 6; singles - 37. — Preceding unsigned comment added by FlameSymphony98 (talk • contribs) 18:29, 18 July 2020 (UTC)

Witness Album
Why In The Promotional Singles There Is Only Witness & Roulette But The Rest Of The Album Is Not There? DSOFOreverTYU (talk) 07:59, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 6 September 2020
Please place the ARIA Certification for Dark Horse as being 8xPlatinum (source: http://www.aria.com.au/pages/httpwww.aria.com.aupagesSinglesAccreds2019.htm) as is also shown on the single page 122.110.127.77 (talk) 01:39, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Reference provided is misleading ~ Amkgp  💬  15:18, 25 September 2020 (UTC)

Never Worn White
Never Worn White peaked at number 12 on Bubbling Under, not 25. I hate that you can't change this, please do. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trevortnidesserped (talk • contribs) 14:00, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
 * ✅ The URL within the cite web template has been updated as well. Star cheers peaks news lost wars Talk to me 15:16, 13 October 2020 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 January 2021
"Not the End of the World" is a single. Can someone add that, please? 140.161.88.36 (talk) 23:43, 18 January 2021 (UTC)


 *  -ink&amp;fables  «talk»  03:15, 26 January 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 26 January 2021
Katy Perry has 5 studio albums as she has repeatedly stated. the first one was not even sent to markets due to her label collapsing and 0 promotion. this therefore does not count. additionally she released it under the name "katy Hudson". please change it as we have repeatedly requested. 150.129.250.100 (talk) 12:55, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the template.	This has been discussed several times. (CC)  Tb hotch <big style="color: #555555;">™ 19:33, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Dr. Swag Lord (talk) 04:39, 31 January 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 May 2021
Can someone put a link to the song "Cry About It Later" in the other charted songs section, please? The song now has an article. 199.119.235.151 (talk) 00:51, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
 * ✅ (CC) Tb hotch ™ 02:48, 1 May 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 6 October 2021
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Roulette_(Katy_perry_song)&oldid=1048444473 112.206.145.9 (talk) 01:17, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 01:29, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi can I put link in roulette katy perry 112.206.145.9 (talk) 09:10, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

Hi can I put link in katy perry's roulette it now has its proper article thank you! 112.206.145.9 (talk) 09:12, 6 October 2021 (UTC)

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roulette_(Katy_Perry) 112.206.145.9 (talk) 09:14, 6 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Pictogram voting wait.svg Already done DigitalChutney (talk) 19:22, 7 October 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 29 January 2022
I am requesting that the certification for Katy Perry's 2018 single "Cozy Little Christmas" be updated from Gold to Platinum as it has just reached this new milestone.

Source: https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/?tab_active=default-award&se=Katy+Perry#search_section Forthewin9472 (talk) 18:05, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ (CC) Tb hotch ™ 19:33, 29 January 2022 (UTC)

Cry About It Later
Cry About It Later was released as a promotional single rather than a single. Check the informations please :) 2A01:261:500:6300:4842:B33C:60EB:66D2 (talk) 14:15, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Cry About It Later. (CC) Tb hotch ™ 19:44, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

When I'm Gone
I am requesting that the certification for Katy Perry's 2021 single "When I'm Gone" be updated as it has just reached a new milestone for the RIAA.

Source: https://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/?tab_active=default-award&se=Katy+Perry#search_section Forthewin9472 (talk) 07:04, 5 March 2023 (UTC)