Talk:Kawasaki Z1300

PoV and referencing
There are assertions that it is legendary,and other superlatives which need to be backed up with referencing such as these statements being made in motorsport magazines. -- Whpq (talk) 02:55, 16 November 2008 (UTC)

Fuel consumption is around 0.55 liter pr 10 kilometres. Not any higher than normal for bikes with 120 HP. It is also the only production bike ever to win open class and 24 hour races in stock mode. It won Brathurst in Australia and driver Greg Page (Iceni racing) won several open class races in England with a stock Z1300. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.202.105.48 (talk) 12:28, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

Racing intentions
I have put a "citation needed" on the assertion that the Z1300 was "originally planned as a racing motorcycle", as it seems most unlikely that this wide & heavy long-stroke engine could ever have been envisaged as a racing motor. Arrivisto (talk) 08:52, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Nicely spotted! Given the badly sourced nature of the whole article I went one further and deleted it. --Biker Biker (talk) 09:51, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

New laws in the EU limiting horsepower
"When released, its output in excess of 120 hp (89 kW) prompted new laws in the EU limiting horsepower." I don't recall that the EU ever got round to doing this, although I believe France has imposed a maximum of 100bhp on new bikes. (Ironically, the EU, via EU Directive 80/181/EEC, has banned the use of "bhp", now requiring the use of "watts"!). Arrivisto (talk) 16:14, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
 * I now see from this site (http://www.visordown.com/motorcycle-news-industry/french-100bhp-limit-to-be-revoked/21859.html) that the 100bhp French limit is to be abolished in 2016! I'll change the text in the article.  Arrivisto (talk) 16:20, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

The 100 BHP limit or "loi des 100 chevaux" was not introduced in France until late in 1984.

http://www.mcva.fr/le-petit-journal-du-web/juridique/ http://www.ffmc.asso.fr/IMG/pdf/decret30.11.84.pdf


 * I've taken that bit out. It might be true - but the law was introduced in 1985, years after the Z1300, post-dating e.g. the Honda CBX, Suzuki Katana, Kawasaki Ninja and so forth. Furthermore the source was just a mirror of the article. It strikes me that finding an official source that lists a specific motorbike as the catalyst for the law is impossible, and it was more likely introduced in the wake of the aforementioned pocket-superbikes. And it was repealed in 2016 (the article doesn't seem to have been updated since then; it still talks about 2016 in the future tense). -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 16:48, 27 April 2023 (UTC)

Sbarro
Presumably the Sbarro motor is a U engine, not a true V-12? Arrivisto (talk) 20:08, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Answering my own question, it is neither; it's a straight-12! Arrivisto (talk) 08:47, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

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"Malpractice and maintenance method"
A section of bullshit across the ages, introduced here. The whole pompous article does not even mention the Benelli Sei. 2003:C6:3738:2C50:E137:2CD0:4B16:218A (talk) 15:21, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
 * Changes have been made by a new editor; I'm keeping out of it.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 16:37, 7 January 2022 (UTC)

Car?
What’s all that stuff about cars in the lede? Mr Larrington (talk) 19:08, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
 * As I stated above, I despaired at the time; 'I'm a newbie, Please don’t bite me,' swamping the lede with editorialising, 3 Jan 2022, hasn't edited since 6 Jan.--Rocknrollmancer (talk) 23:38, 17 June 2022 (UTC)


 * I've asked the new editor on their talk page where they got the terminology from. If I don't hear back I'd be inclined to revert the whole article back to your last version and then someone can restore any of the new stuff that's actually referenced and makes sense. Daveosaurus (talk) 23:56, 15 July 2022 (UTC)