Talk:Kaweah River/GA1

GA Review
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Reviewer: Ceranthor (talk · contribs) 17:03, 12 July 2018 (UTC)

I will be reviewing this.  ceran  thor 17:03, 12 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Lead
 * "Fed primarily by high elevation snowmelt" - any mountains in particular?
 * "With its Middle Fork headwaters arising at almost 13,000 feet (4,000 m) above sea level" - "arising at" reads awkwardly
 * Otherwise, reads splendidly. One of the best leads I've read in a long time.
 * All done. Thanks, appreciated! Shannon [ Talk ] 19:05, 21 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Course
 * "The Kaweah River originates along the Great Western Divide, a chain of 13,000-foot (4,000 m) peaks in the middle of Sequoia National Park that separates its watershed from the Kern River drainage further east." - what "its" refers to here is unclear; suggest rewording slightly to make that more clear
 * "The Kaweah River flows southwest, paralleled by Highway 198 in its narrow canyon" - maybe add "to the" or "in a southwestward direction"
 * Think these all need to be tweaked for grammatical matching: "Mill Creek continues west", "making a wide loop around Visalia before becoming Cross Creek north of Goshen, from where it flows south", "Kaweah River continues southwest", "Cross Creek, which flows south" - these should all be "Xward" or "to the X" (where X is north/south/etc)
 * "The length of the Kaweah River from the confluence of the Middle and Marble Forks, to the bifurcation at Mill and Packwood Creeks, is 33.6 miles (54.1 km)." - could be rewritten with less verbiage, and with less separation between the subject and main verb ("length... is")
 * "Mill Creek, the larger of the two distributaries, flows for 25.1 miles (40.4 km) from there west to Cross Creek, for a total distance of 58.7 miles (94.5 km).[2][n 1] " -phrased awkwardly, particularly "from there west to Cross Creek"
 * Mostly done, I'll check later to see if I missed anything. Shannon [ Talk ] 19:05, 21 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Natural features and environment
 * "iconic yellow mariposa lily, Calochortus luteus, which has been specifically noted in the Dry Creek tributary watershed.[20]" - what makes it iconic, and why is that worth mentioning here and in this article in particular?
 * Looks like the lake picture needs to be shifted down a bit (at least in Chrome browser).
 * Do you mean the lake picture would look better if moved to this section? Shannon [ Talk ] 23:44, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, I think that would fix the image stacking I see on Chrome.  ceran  thor 12:27, 14 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Otherwise fine.


 * History
 * "The Kaweah River watershed was originally inhabited by the Yokuts people of the Central Valley," - obviously implied, but worth noting that they're an indigenous people
 * Otherwise good.
 * Done Shannon [ Talk ] 17:22, 22 July 2018 (UTC)


 * River modifications
 * "This was important because the capacity of the main channel of the Kaweah River is just 5,500 cubic feet per second (160 m3/s), and even less in its smaller downstream branches;[45]:67–223 however, the river's peak flows can be much higher, with a record of 80,700 cubic feet per second (2,290 m3/s) in the 1955 flood.[46]" - get rid of the semicolon and make this two sentences
 * Fixed the sentence, you're right it was pretty awkward. Shannon [ Talk ] 02:39, 22 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Recreation
 * "The majority of people come to visit the Giant Forest, but some also visit the Kaweah River for boating, fishing and swimming" - this statement should probably be supported by a direct citation
 * Replaced with a statement supported by citation. Shannon [ Talk ] 03:28, 23 July 2018 (UTC)


 * "A California fishing license is required for visitors above age 16" - I'd just say "older than", not "above" age 16
 * Done Shannon [ Talk ] 03:28, 23 July 2018 (UTC)


 * References
 * What makes ref 4 a reliable source?
 * Done, replaced Shannon [ Talk ] 16:36, 14 August 2018 (UTC)


 * Is TopoQuest a reliable source?
 * It should be, right? Since it's basically a portal for viewing USGS topo maps, which I would consider authoritative. Shannon [ Talk ] 19:05, 21 July 2018 (UTC)


 * What makes ref 20 a reliable source?
 * It's part of this series of documents published by the National Park Service. Shannon [ Talk ] 06:13, 10 August 2018 (UTC)


 * ref 25 needs a page number.
 * Why? It's just a single page. Shannon [ Talk ] 23:50, 2 August 2018 (UTC)


 * same with ref 28. and ref 24.
 * Should I replace the with page numbers in the ref? Shannon [ Talk ] 23:50, 2 August 2018 (UTC)


 * What makes ref 32 a reliable source?
 * Done, replaced with two new refs. Shannon [ Talk ] 06:25, 10 August 2018 (UTC)


 * What makes ref 35 36 a reliable source?
 * Done, replaced Shannon [ Talk ] 02:59, 13 August 2018 (UTC)


 * What makes ref 50 51 reliable?
 * Done, replaced Shannon [ Talk ] 02:59, 13 August 2018 (UTC)


 * I don't think summitpost is reliable (ref 54 55). I avoid it at all costs for volcano articles.
 * ref 55 56 needs publisher/magazine info.
 * Done Shannon [ Talk ] 06:27, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

The prose looks good, but the references are a bit concerning here. Let me know if you have further questions.  ceran  thor 00:21, 19 July 2018 (UTC)


 * General
 * Make sure you use the serial comma consistently (either use it or don't)

- not sure you saw that I posted comments yet, but they're all above.  ceran  thor 17:48, 20 July 2018 (UTC)


 * Hello! Thanks for the review. I've been mostly off Wikipedia for a while but I will be responding to your comments soon. Shannon [ Talk ] 18:53, 21 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Sounds good. Give me a ping when you've addressed them all.  ceran  thor 02:07, 23 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Have you finished addressing these? Let me know ASAP please.  ceran  thor 17:36, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I'm almost done, except for the references. Still trying to find a couple of alternative sources. I did leave a few questions for you up there. Thanks! Shannon [ Talk ] 17:39, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I think just the one question I had to reply to, otherwise your response cleared it up. Anything left for you to cover?  ceran  thor 12:27, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * I think that was all, actually. Traveling now but I'll be able to edit soon if anything else pops up. Shannon [ Talk ] 16:36, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Great. Happy to pass now. Just try to fix that lake image formatting issue please.  ceran  thor 17:08, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks a lot! I'll go do that right away. Shannon [ Talk ] 17:45, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Looks More Like a Stream
This river, based on many of the photos included, appears to now be more of a stream, than a river. How does that get wound into the article to reflect the current reality, rather than posterity? Stevenmitchell (talk) 13:08, 12 September 2020 (UTC)