Talk:Kazimierz Czarnecki (engineer)

Notable?
As a footnote for the bio of Mary Jackson (engineer) I am afraid he does not pass WP:GNG; the best I could found was half a sentence in which he is called "one of Langley's most revered engineers." at - nice, but I am afraid it is not sufficient by itself, and other sources are not saying much more about him. But as a scientist, hmm, User:Randykitty, do you think he passes WP:PROF? No google scholar profile, so I have trouble calculating his index... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 00:38, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Hard to say. The problem with people that worked longer ago (like this person who retired in 1975) is that citation data are difficult to interpret. In the past, there were many fewer articles published, so many fewer citations to go around. It makes it difficult to compare citation counts with current scientists, even if reliable counts can be obtained. So I'm afraid that no evidence for notability can be found by looking at citation rates. I tried googling this name, but mostly found references to a weight lifter... --Randykitty (talk) 10:35, 4 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Citation rates are not everything, and Google Scholar does not have a lot of historical data. As you can see from the publications, he published quite a bit. Since he appears as a minor figure in the movie "Hidden Figures" I find it important that there is an entry about him that includes his publications. --WiseWoman (talk) 19:55, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
 * Unfortunately, having published is not necessarily a sign of notability either. We need evidence that those publications were noted. Normally we do that using citation rates, but as I said above, low citation rates don't necessarily mean a lack of notability for older cases like this. Unfortunately, low citation rates are not evidence for notability either, of course. So at this point we don't have much evidence either way. Whether the appearance in the movie is enough to establish notability I have no real opinion about (although if it is "minor", I doubt it). --Randykitty (talk) 20:01, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
 * I believe this page should be reviewed. It states "born 1916 Poland" and "immigrated to the United States in an unknown year" when in fact Kazimierz Roman Czarnecki was born in New Bedford, Massachusetts on Feb 28, 1915 to parents who had immigrated separately from Poland and married in the United States. Public records that support this include his birth record, census records, World War II draft card, and marriage certificate. Mikeloader (talk) 03:54, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Hi, what you said sounds interesting, and should be included in the article if it's true. Is there any chance that you could link here or in the article itself the documents that you had mentioned above? Thank you in advance. Sincerelly, Artemis Andromeda (talk) 19:41, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Here are a few sources that state his place of birth.
 * Birth record: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FXKH-YCY
 * Marriage record: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9TR-B4Z9-Z?cc=2370234&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQK9J-FVFH
 * 1930 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XQL3-FSV
 * 1950 census: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:6XLR-9WF9
 * Draft record (Ancestry, paywall): https://www.ancestry.ca/imageviewer/collections/2238/images/44044_10_00030-00753?pId=10680159 Mikeloader (talk) 14:13, 3 June 2023 (UTC)