Talk:Kazys Škirpa

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Anyone editing this stub may wish to look at Christopher R. Browning, "The Origins of the Final Solution" (pap. 2004) p. 270 for details of Skirpa's anti-Semitism ("exploited anti-Jewish feeling") and his work with the Lithuanian Activists Front. Andygx (talk) 21:23, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

Anti-semitism and Holocaust participation
This article needs a lot of work for balance, as it completely whitewashes one of the key figures in the events that led eventually to the most effective (by percentage of a country's Jewish population murdered) Holocaust in Europe. I and others are working on this and appreciate any help from other Wikipedians.Spitfire3000 (talk) 11:13, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

The Lithuanian, Polish or Russian articles do not mention any of this from what I can see. A quick search mostly returns material on his émigré activities and independence efforts. The purpose of Wikipedia articles is neither to whitewash nor to "blackwash". The article in Lithuanian apparently notes that he was arrested by the Nazis and sent to a concentration camp, that he after the war lived in the United States and worked for the Library of Congress and was involved with the Lithuanian Liberation Committee in the US, and that he after the fall of communism has been honoured in Lithuania as an important resistance figure. There appears to be a difference between "being a figure in events" leading to something, and actually being responsible for something. If what you are saying is correct, surely he would have been convicted of that instead of working for the Library of Congress and being honoured by today's government in the country, and surely, the articles on him in other languages would have pointed this out. Tataral (talk) 13:33, 30 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Do recall that Nazi Germany orchestrated, ran, and managed the Holocaust in Eastern Europe. Attribute the efficacy of extermination to those responsible. Unfortunately, the notion of the Germanless Holocaust persists; and that the Holocaust was only so "effective" because all the Baltic peoples were all to eager to kill all their Jewish neighbors owing to centuries of virulent anti-Semitism. While "official" German reports speak of Lithuanian complicity, private correspondence regarding the same events indicate German commando units, not Lithuanians, were responsible. (And that if word got out, it would look bad for the Germans.) P ЄTЄRS J V ►TALK 00:18, 3 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes I agree it needs a lot of research to carefully reference a balanced account. But this is the Talk section, and I don't think it's a wild unfounded accusation to say that the LAF had "something to do with the Holocaust". Your characterisation of an entirely nazi holocaust is contested. I understand that i have to follow the rules when editing the page. Spitfire3000 (talk) 22:45, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
 * sad to see that 12 years later there is hardly any mention of his role in calling for the extermination of Jews:
 * "Skirpa called for the elimination of Jews from Lithuania and likely proposed this idea to Nazis. He was the founder of the Lithuanian Activist Front who was responsible for murdering Jews publicly, and who broadcast Nazi talking points into Lithuania inciting the murders. The government of Lithuania called this merely an “incident of antisemitism” and claimed that by calling for the elimination of Jews, he didn’t mean to actually hurt them! Lithuania has absolved Skirpa of any crimes and officially hail him as their national hero. This is Holocaust revisionism."
 * https://archive.ph/vdWSK 2403:6200:8817:CF06:DD62:5BFD:B678:A7C8 (talk) 09:46, 5 January 2024 (UTC)