Talk:Keemstar/Archive 1

Draft article seems to check out
Hey, I wanted to inform you that Draft:Keemstar has been made in AfC, and it seems to meet notability/verifiability standards for an article. However, there is Creation Protection on the article as of now. If you could, would you mind checking out the draft and determining whether it should go into mainspace? Naturally it would have to have semi-protection or extended-confirmed protection, but the article looks good to me as it is written in draftspace. Thanks, Utopes (talk) 23:25, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Protection reduced - I can see why some protection may be still needed! Previous versions were deleted more because nobody seemed capable of writing a proper article rather than for lack of notability. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 09:12, 3 September 2019 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 September 2019
Can someone put the line "He was name-dropped in Etika's last video before his suicide, with Etika saying "Keemstar, I wish you the best."" back into the article in the 'Personal Life' section, using https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/2019/06/25/youtuber-etika-found-dead-east-river-following-series-erratic-videos-police-confrontations/ as the citation? Meant to use that as the citation but for some reason it wouldn't let me. Also, I'm very glad this article got created! Hopefully I'll be able to make more articles soon. And another thing, could someone change the link to MrBeast's twitter to a link to Keemstar's twitter? I linked the wrong person by mistake. Thanks! CarterLennon (talk) 23:11, 3 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done Saucy[talk – contribs] 06:53, 7 September 2019 (UTC)

Protection
I have been asked to explain why I protected this article. Utopes suggested it above and, given the troubled histories of all three titles: Keemstar, DramaAlert and Daniel Keem, I fully agreed. If another admin feels that a lower level of protection is appropriate, I have no objection to their changing it. — RHaworth (talk · contribs) 16:26, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Middle name
Can anyone verify his middle name? According to Wikitubia his middle name is Martin. Michael14375 (talk) 18:12, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 10 December 2019
change of stats AustinVD (talk) 13:30, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. – Thjarkur (talk) 14:30, 10 December 2019 (UTC)

Large Edit Request
I work with Keemstar's management team and we have a large update with additional information regarding his history, career, and current work that we would like to add to provide readers with the most complete biography of Keemstar. Can someone assist?

--Breannalfm (talk) 11:01, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 20 May 2020
His channel has now reached 5.5 million subscibers and 1.2 billion views. Please update this. Thanks,--Landihan (talk) 19:52, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done 's talk page! 23:52, 20 May 2020 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 28 May 2020
Even though I "hate" Keem, he said that G FUEL offered a suspension of his sponsorship and he agreed to do it, instead of G FUEL dropping him completely. Propork3455 (talk) 20:03, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Naypta ☺ &#124; ✉ talk page &#124; 20:13, 28 May 2020 (UTC)

Wording of last paragraph of subject 'Controversies'
it says 'egged on'. Should be simplified or clarified by saying 'encouraged'. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nksnks92 (talk • contribs) 03:52, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: looks like a quote to me, so it should not be altered.  P.I. Ellsworth   ed.  put'r there 04:11, 29 May 2020 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 14 July 2020
Change his 1.2 billion views to 1.3 billion views https://www.youtube.com/c/DramaAlert/about He also is using StoryFire for behind the scenes content and his personal life, seen here https://twitter.com/KEEMSTAR/status/1282030387024277505 so in external links you can add his profile His profile is linked here https://storyfire.com/user/jmsPXmsNWib91Of0MryE5hio2O53 DigitalEntry (talk) 03:01, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * , Only views are updated ~ Amkgp  💬  10:48, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Yellow check.svg Partly done: ~ Amkgp  💬  10:49, 14 July 2020 (UTC)

protected edit request
To add information that his lawsuit with Romeo Lactose was dropped: https://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2020/06/25/keemstar-wins-romeo-lacoste-lawsuit-all-is-revealed-on-dramaalert/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nice Stories (talk • contribs) 15:04, 19 July 2020 (UTC)

"Romeo Lacoste" listed at Redirects for discussion
A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Romeo Lacoste. The discussion will occur at Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 October 29 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.  Grey joy talk 05:22, 29 October 2020 (UTC)

Bias in recent updates
Hello everyone!! When reading over this page, I have come across a few recent updates on this page which come across as biased, as well as very informal. Upon looking over the pages edit history, it seems that all of these improper edits have been made by the user “Thursby16” who I believe is using this Wikipedia page to promote their personal opinions. Specifically in the section describing Keem’s use of the n word, which he renamed to “racism against Alex” as well as the newly added section regarding the “Manchester bombing victim mocking,” which is a lengthy section regarding an otherwise minor controversy that has received minimal attention on the internet. The user states that Keem “showed support to ISIS and Islamic Extremism” and was “...openly mocking the 2017 Manchester Ariana Grande Terror Attack Victims, and wished someone was also a victim of it. The person who they wished was a victim of the terror attack, was also a big Ariana Grande fan from Manchester,” in which improper grammar is used repeatedly (calling the person a “big Ariana Grande fan” is very informal). The person then described the backlash from the situation as “incredible” which is, again, not true, as the controversy was mostly overshadowed by other discussions regarding the presidential election, and is small in size compared to Keemstars other controversies. All in all, I believe that this person is using Wikipedia as a soapbox to present their biased opinions on Keemstar, and I am suggesting a removal of these edits in order to keep the page as balanced and bias-free as possible. Manmanboyboyman man (talk) 14:33, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Hey there, I would say that I agree with you. I do think the article is biased and I'll solve the issues. In addition, the Manchester terror attack situation sourced a deleted tweet. I can find no news article of this so I will remove it completely.Haris920 (talk) 15:26, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
 * Edit: I didnt realise that this article was protected Haris920 (talk) 15:28, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

I agree. This needs to be removed ASAP. I am not extended confirmed though. GhostP.  talk  16:43, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Sorry but, what are you doing in this article? How can a simple tweet be considered a controversy without secondary sources saying so? I kindly ask you to remove this content (how has this not been removed yet?) Can someone please do something? GhostP.  talk  21:42, 9 November 2020 (UTC)

Incorrect date
It's written in the article that TotalBiscuit passed away in 2017, thought the source said he passed away in 2018 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Texan777 (talk • contribs) 21:52, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 14 December 2020
The controversies say nothing about his internet feud with Basherverse, the Minecraft Youtuber, Fouseytube, LeafyisHere. I think there is also a section needed for his goods in the community. For instance, when he helped Turkey Tom, Nicholas DeOrio, and many others get their monetization back on the platform. 100.17.2.2 (talk) 15:48, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Red question icon with gradient background.svg Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. – Jonesey95 (talk) 16:05, 14 December 2020 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 22 December 2020
Add "English-language YouTube channels" under article's categories. All of the DramaAlert videos are in English (https://www.youtube.com/c/DramaAlert/featured) JooneBug37 (talk) 02:02, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done  Seagull123  Φ  14:11, 22 December 2020 (UTC)

TotalBiscuit
The article states that TotalBiscuit died in May of 2017, which is false, since he died in May of 2018.

--Anonymouseditor2k19 (talk) 09:10, 24 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done per BBC Article Pulisi (talk) 11:50, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 5 January 2021
The death of TotalBiscuit need to be changed from 2019 to 2018, as his death was in 2018 and not 2019. UnderscoreSam (talk) 15:27, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Yes check.svg Done POLITANVM talk 15:41, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 27 March 2021
Controversies: On March 2021, Keemstar has once again been under fire for partaking in the creation of a “diss track” that features unauthorized use of late SHINee vocalist Kim Jonghyun. The lyrics poke fun at idols within the industry, mentioning mental health problems including depression, suicide, and eating disorders. The video was posted on YouTube and has been a source of discomfort amongst fans and non-fans of Keemstar alike. Despite numerous attempts at educating and explaining the hypocrisy of Keemstar’s tweets defending his actions of belittling mental health, he has continued to reveal past tweets that make fun of sexual harrassment, abuse, and homosexuality. As of now, he has yet to apologize for his actions and continues to blame others and refuse to take responsibility for the course of his actions. 45.49.205.174 (talk) 06:52, 27 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: firstly, you'd need a reliable source for the controversy to accompany this addition, especially given the article is a biography of a living person. Secondly, that retelling of events doesn't appear particularly neutral, especially statements like "As of now, he has yet to apologize for his actions and continues to blame others and refuse to take responsibility for the course of his actions." --Volteer1 (talk) 09:28, 27 March 2021 (UTC)

Gaming Projects Edit Request
In 2011 Keemstar was heavily involved with the promotion of FortressCraft, a video game styled after Minecraft.

Keemstar secured the following players for the 2018 Realm Royal tournament without additional compensation: Tyler "Ninja" Belvins, Michael "shroud" Grzesiek, Summit1g, NoahJ456, JoshOGJack "CouRage" Dunlop, Ben "DrLupo" Lupo and many other well-known content creators and Realm Royale players who pulled 110,561 average viewers. In order to show the developer's appreciation for the work that KEEMSTAR had done to build the competitive scene of Realm Royale, Hi-Rez Studios created a personalized gnome skin that players can use when they are first defeated in a Realm Royale match. Another skin based on KEEMSTAR was added in-game on July 31, 2018.

In 2018 Keemstar partnered with UMG for first 100K Creative Destruction Tournament featuring Tfue" Tenney of FaZe Clan, Daequan "daequan" Loco of Team SoloMid, YouTuber Vikram "Vikkstar123" Barn, Twitch streamer Jaryd "Summit1g" Lazar and many other professional Fortnite players and content creators.

UMG Friday Fortnite began in 2019 and was a partnership between UMG and KEEMSTAR. KEEMSTAR was able to assemble and organize 32 team brackets for seven weeks straight on the UMG platform that routinely sees 64 of the biggest personalities from Twitch and YouTube and professional Fortnite players compete to collect the most kills with a duos teammate over a two-match span in a squads match with their opponent. Twitch superstars, such as Tyler "Ninja" Blevins, Dr DisRespect, NICKMERCS, and professional Fortnite players, such as Ali "Myth" Kabbani, Hamlinz and Daequan of Team SoloMid and Turner "Tfue" Tenney and Dennis "Cloak" Lepore of FaZe Clan, to YouTube giants, such as Romanatwood, NoahJ456, Vikkstar123, and countless other competitors through the weeks, the KEEMSTAR Friday Fortnite UMG Tournament has brought together dozens of notable and impressive players in the gaming community together to compete for thousands of dollars on a weekly basis.

Also in 2019 was Keemstar’s Minecraft Monday. Keemstar opted to bring in big names who could attract huge viewerships, such as Fortnite superstar Tyler “Ninja” Blevins. Blevins alone brought in nearly one million viewers on Twitch for that first week. On week two, there was another megaton: Keemstar had convinced YouTube king Felix “PewDiePie” Kjellberg to participate in the event alongside beauty guru James Charles. Suddenly, nearly every big name on YouTube and Twitch was playing Mojang’s sandbox game. Minecraft became a spectacle once again with over 90,000 unique viewers for the tournament.

Breannalfm (talk) 16:45, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

Keemstar's family
Hi, I've heard rumors about Keemstar losing custody of his daughter amidst rumors of him using suggestive photos of her for profit but I don't see anything about that on here. Does anyone have a source? Interviews with his ex or court records or anything? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2407:7000:A10E:BE12:CD86:222B:9F1F:F469 (talk) 05:30, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
 * , the best place to ask that would be the wp:reference desk. For what it's worth however, it's important to note that Twitter and the like are not considered wp:Reliable sources, and as such, rumours from there must not be repeated on the project. BrxBrx(talk)(please reply with BrxBrx ) 20:24, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Quality of sources
As it stands, this article is pretty reliant on some pretty low-quality sources, that frankly should not be used in a BLP article. Some examples include (discouraged per wp:RSP - its a syndicated source with user-generated content), (we the unicorns is a defunct user-generated wiki about youtubers), (the blog of a company selling food products (?) ). I will be removing these sources, unless anyone has any object.

Best, BrxBrx(talk)(please reply with BrxBrx ) 20:32, 28 April 2021 (UTC)

Philanthropy Edit Request
In 2019 Keemstar partnered with Mr. Beast for Team Trees which raised money to plant 21,713,396 trees.

In 2020 Keemstar created the fundraiser #StopTheFire for the Australian Bush Fires through platform SoftGiving.

Breannalfm (talk) 16:44, 22 April 2021 (UTC) Breannalfm


 * Declined, as neither Youtube or Twitter are WP:RS. Ferkjl (talk) 19:13, 22 April 2021 (UTC)

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Updated Links in original submission (above) for article sources other than Twitter & YouTube

Breannalfm (talk) 16:50, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Pictogram voting comment.svg Note: Go ahead on the first line, but add a comma after 2019.

Second line not done as press release websites are not a reliable source. Ben ❯❯❯  Talk  20:02, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Since this request has been answered, I am closing this request. Z1720 (talk) 16:11, 15 June 2021 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 August 2022
"In February 2011, Keem promoted FortressCraft, a game coming to Xbox Live essentially a clone of Minecraft, Keem contacted the Indie developer and made a deal with him and took part-ownership of the game."

This sentence runs on for too long. "essentially a clone of Minecraft" is irrelevant and should be removed from the sentence, and the sentence should be split in two:

"In February 2011, Keem promoted FortressCraft, a game coming to Xbox Live. Keem contacted the Indie developer and made a deal with him and took part-ownership of the game." 178.148.80.44 (talk) 08:57, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
 * ✅ Handmeanotherbagofthemchips (talk) 18:23, 1 August 2022 (UTC)

possible error
"In September 2012, Keem began using the trend #DramaAlert on Twitter." Should the word "trend" be replaced with "hashtag" or is this intentional? 2600:4040:A034:A300:38CD:A1D9:DC04:1A8F (talk) 05:53, 23 November 2022 (UTC)


 * You're right. I've edited the page accordingly. Liliana UwU  (talk / contribs) 05:57, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

Category:News YouTubers
Can someone please add Category:News YouTubers Keemstar was one of the first individuals to cover internet figures in a news format. 150.250.94.44 (talk) 21:18, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Minecraft Monday
I believe there should be a mention of it in the article as it is referenced on the MC Championship page. Master106 (talk) 21:44, 27 December 2023 (UTC)


 * if u got a article/reference about Minecraft Monday I'll insert that into his career section. HappyBoi3892 (talk) 22:49, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
 * I would just use the article that the MC Championship page used. It is up to you. Master106 (talk) 23:24, 31 December 2023 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 April 2024
He Died Of Pulmonary Embolism Today 2600:1004:B243:ED29:1101:427D:2DAD:3B52 (talk) 19:21, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
 * Red information icon with gradient background.svg Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. 〜 Askarion   ✉  19:28, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 April 2024 (2)
Keemstar has passed away on 01/4/2024 as posted on social media 2A02:9B0:4059:253C:D934:D224:477D:3CAE (talk) 20:15, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. PianoDan (talk) 21:25, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 1 April 2024 (3)
keemstar died Wakooke (talk) 21:17, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. PianoDan (talk) 21:26, 1 April 2024 (UTC)