Talk:Keene, New Hampshire

Merge Infobox City NH with Infobox City?
Please see the discussion here. harpchad 15:13, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Picture
Ummm, that is a very old picture, wouldn't it make more sense to have an up to date picture? 70.16.209.200 (talk) —Preceding comment was added at 10:45, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

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War against Canada?
I don't recall a war against Canada. Perhaps the author meant the Revolutionary War. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.237.20.248 (talk • contribs) 08:54, July 11, 2010


 * Things seem to have settled down with Canada by 1713. I checked several histories of Keene in Google Books and can't find a mention of the land being given to veterans.  The original proprietors paid five pounds each along with a bond to ensure that they stayed there a few years.  It looks like a regular settlers arrangement.  I have modified the sentence accordingly.  --Beirne (talk) 14:20, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Free Keene
I added some stuff about the "Free Keene" movement. Feel free to elaborate, just make sure it's done objectively and isn't written as a complete criticism or as some kind of promotion for the group/movement. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thebigredshoe (talk • contribs) 22:40, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

WMUR
I've restored the paragraph about opposition to Free Keene, including reference from WMUR, the New Hampshire ABC affiliate. It goes way off topic, if one disagrees with a report, to try to make a connection to a parent company's reprehensible practices somewhere around the world. Think of how many times The New York Times is cited in Wikipedia. If one disapproves of them, should one track down NYT references wherever possible and demand that information be appended which describes how terrible they are? Of course not. A better response to thinking poorly of a local TV station's published story would be to find more references about the issue at hand, and not head off to Korea or wherever.

Really, the best thing would be to give Free Keene its own page. It's distinct enough from the Free State Project that it would warrant its own article, and the Keene city article (this one) could give it a simple summary. --Ken Gallager (talk) 12:22, 31 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Agreed, although it's going to be a lot of fun (not!) to keep any Free Keene article from becoming a hagiography or hatchetjob, depending on the opinions of whoever does the most editing. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 13:55, 31 May 2013 (UTC)

To be honest, Ken, I think you're completely right about this "contextualization" of mine -- there aren't enough hours in the day to criticize every source, nor to read all the criticisms. To that end, I've taken another stab at an edit, this time extending the original language to elaborate on the content of the original article. I've also followed your suggestion to add content. I'm still new to Wikipedia editing, so I really appreciate your patience. - Snormdard (talk) 12:02, 01 June 2013 (EST)

Martial arts team
Listing a particular martial arts academy in this article has two problems: first, it's still not clear to me that it's notable. Second, and more immediately important, it's not even located in Keene. We agree that it's located in Swanzey; the website confirms that both its physical location and mailing address are there. It's not enough to say that it serves the Keene area; so do many radio stations that are located elsewhere and are correctly not listed in this article. If the editor who supports this academy can provide more details as to why it is notable and not simply another storefront martial arts business (for example, do people travel to the Swanzey area from outside of New England to train there?), then there may be justification for including it in the Swanzey article. Otherwise, the listing is simply an advertisement. --Ken Gallager (talk) 12:15, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

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Notable people
Years ago, I added Jon Udell as a notable resident. He may not be a household name amongst the general population, but he is well-known in technology circles (former Microsoft Evangelist, editor and columnist of BYTE Magazine, &c.). Any objections to having him relisted? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sydbarrett74 (talk • contribs) 15:36, 27 October 2022 (UTC)


 * He's certainly notable enough to be included. However, on checking the article's edit history, I see that he was removed because there was no source linking him to Keene. If you can find a published source (news article, e.g.) that mentions him living in Keene, you are welcome to restore him to the list. Ken Gallager (talk) 12:10, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

History section
An editor deleted most of the History section because there were missing footnotes. I suspect the first paragraph can be corroborated using the History of the Town of Keene cited in the article, and I have faith that someone with local library resources can track down sources for the rest. Rather than forcing someone to go back to the article history, I am storing the deleted material here.
 * "Timothy Dwight, the Yale president who chronicled his travels, described the town as "...one of the prettiest in New England." Situated on an ancient lake bed surrounded by hills, the valley with fertile meadows was excellent for farming. The Ashuelot River was later used to provide water power for sawmills, gristmills and tanneries. After the railroad was constructed to the town in 1848, numerous other industries were established. Keene became a manufacturing center for wooden-ware, pails, chairs, sashes, shutters, doors, pottery, glass, soap, woolen textiles, shoes, saddles, mowing machines, carriages and sleighs. It also had a brickyard and foundry. Keene was incorporated as a city in 1874, and by 1880 had a population of 6,784. In the early 1900s, the Newburyport Silver Company moved to Keene to take advantage of its skilled workers and location.
 * "New England manufacturing declined in the 20th century, however, particularly during the Great Depression. Keene is today a center for insurance, education, and tourism. The city retains a considerable inventory of fine Victorian architecture from its mill town era. An example is the Keene Public Library, which occupies a Second Empire mansion built about 1869 by manufacturer Henry Colony.
 * "Keene's manufacturing success was brought on in part by its importance as a railroad city. The Cheshire Railroad, Manchester & Keene Railroad, and the Ashuelot Railroad all met here. By the early 1900s all had been absorbed by the Boston & Maine Railroad. Keene was home to a railroad shop complex and two railroad yards. The Manchester & Keene Branch was abandoned following the floods of 1936. Beginning in 1945, Keene was a stopping point for the Boston & Maine's streamlined trainset known at that time as the Cheshire.
 * "Keene became notable in 1962, when F. Nelson Blount chose the city for the site of his Steamtown, U.S.A. attraction. But Blount's plan fell through and, after one operating season in Keene, the museum was relocated to nearby Bellows Falls, Vermont. The Boston & Maine abandoned the Cheshire Branch in 1972, leaving the Ashuelot Branch as Keene's only rail connection to the outside world.
 * "In 1978, the B&M leased switching operations in Keene to the Green Mountain Railroad, which took over the entire Ashuelot Branch in 1982. Passenger decline and track conditions forced the Green Mountain to end service on the Ashuelot Branch in 1983 and return operating rights to the B&M. However, there were no longer enough customers to warrant service on the line. In 1984, the last train arrived in and departed Keene, consisting of Boston & Maine EMD GP9 1714, pulling flat cars to carry rails removed from the railyard. Track conditions on the Ashuelot Branch were so poor at the time that the engine returned light (without cars) to Brattleboro. A hi-rail truck was used instead to remove the flatcars.
 * "In 1995, the freight house, one of the last remaining railroad buildings in town, burned due to arson. Since the late 20th century, the railroad beds through town have been redeveloped as the Cheshire Rail Trail and the Ashuelot Rail Trail.

Ken Gallager (talk) 19:48, 26 September 2023 (UTC)