Talk:Keihanshin

Move to Keihanshin?
Why isn't this at Keihanshin? If the term doesn't have any grounding in English, it also seems silly to change the order of the cities in the title. Dekimasu 08:48, 15 October 2006 (UTC)


 * Agreed. This didn't seem to generate a lot of discussion, but it's been a while and no one has raised objections, so I'm following your suggestion. -- Exitmoose (talk) 04:56, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

(Copying remark from [|WP:RM])
 * The name "Osaka-Kobe-Kyoto" is clearer. As the article says, the name Keihanshin (京阪神) is not a tradiitonal name but was constructed by extracting a representative kanji from Kyoto (京都), Osaka (大阪), and Kobe (神戸), but using the Chinese reading instead of the corresponding Japanese reading for each of the characters taken from "Osaka" and "Kobe". Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:51, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * The anagram-like Chinese reading of kanji (which I think has a name, but, it's too early on Monday for me to remember it) is quite often used, so, I'm not sure what the argument is. Hanshin is but one example (from which Keihanshin is just an extension).　I think sticking with the actual name of regions in any language is preferred, rather than cobbling together an English equivalent.  We don't need to have West of the border and East of the border articles, just because the Japanese name is a bit unfamiliar. Neier (talk) 23:03, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I agree with Neier. There are other examples as well, such as Hanshin Industrial Region (as opposed to Osaka-Kobe Industrial Region). -- Exitmoose (talk) 00:48, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * What's wrong with Greater Osaka, as the article's intro uses. 70.55.84.42 (talk) 04:22, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * Most people outside Japan do not know Japanese, or which "on'yomi" pronunciation corresponds with which "kun'yomi" pronunciation. But most people have heard of Osaka and Kobe and Kyoto, at least via the news. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:33, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * That's true, and each of those cities has an article under their respective names. However, most people haven't heard of "Osaka-Kobe-Kyoto", because it's not a term regularly used in English.  In this case, it's more appropriate to use the Japanese term in the same way as other articles as Neier writes above.  The on'yomi/kun'yomi issue is secondary, as it's more about the etymology of the word than about whether the article should be at that title. -- Exitmoose (talk) 09:05, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I don't think "Greater Osaka" is as appropriate as "Keihanshin". The region isn't as dominated by Osaka as, say, the Greater Tokyo Area.  The three cities collectively define the region, which is precisely why the word in Japanese is composed of elements of each.  It would be like having the Minneapolis-Saint Paul article at Greater Minneapolis. -- Exitmoose (talk) 09:05, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
 * It would be like renaming Randstad to Amsterdam-Rotterdam-The Hague-Utrecht... HermanHiddema (talk) 22:08, 13 April 2008 (UTC)


 * To reply to Anthony Appleyard: Yes, the name consists of a kanji each from Kyoto, Osaka, and Kobe and uses the sound-based readings; however, that's one of the main ways that normal Japanese words are formed. That formulation doesn't make it any less a common term or traditional name; it is, and I don't see the need to prefer a descriptive title to a precise proper noun. Support the move, as I seem to have a year and a half ago. Dekimasu よ! 13:54, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
 * I also note that there are two talk pages now. The article and the talk page are separate. Dekimasu よ! 13:56, 14 April 2008 (UTC)

What the ...? I'm a Japanese and I never heard of the term. Great Osaka Area before. Who came up with this name. It is either keihanshi or Kansai. Wikipedia isn't the place to invent new geographical term. Vapour (talk) 20:21, 30 November 2010 (UTC)

Removed move request template
The page has been removed, so I removed the move request template. -- Exitmoose (talk) 00:07, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

"Keihanshin has the largest economy area in the world."???
In the subsection of Economy, it is said that "Keihanshin has the largest economy area in the world". Very nice, but how on earth is it meant? Is it because they make the most PPP or GDP (which, I might add, are both not true, as can be seen in that same subsection :)), or is it because Keihanshin has the most land-area??? (I reckon it a bit strange to include that in this subsection) Or perhaps it is meant in another way? :s So I will remove those remarks, and I reckon it fair that they stay removed untill someone can either proof that Keihanshin has indeed 'the largest economy area in the world', or can elaborate on how the removed sentence is meant. :) --Robster1983 (talk) 10:40, 5 October 2009 (UTC)

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Conventional rail services
This is very subjective or false: "Many of these trains operate at speeds that most other countries would consider "high-speed"." High-speed rail is a defined term, generally meaning 200 km/h on upgraded conventional lines (this case) or 250 km/h on new lines. Since Japanese narrow gauge conventional lines have generally maximum speed of 130 km/h, this doesn't seem right. Just because some less developed countries don't even have 13 km/h, it does not make it high-speed. Daniel Brvnistan (talk) 08:23, 6 May 2019 (UTC)

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