Talk:Keiko Kitagawa

her real height
The Japanese wiki says she's 159 cm. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.127.39.218 (talk • contribs).

Updates
I changed "idol" to "actress and model". "Idol" is a specific entertainment job in Japan, and one that Keiko Kitagawa, unlike her fellow PGSM actresses Miyuu Sawai and Ayaka Komatsu, has not actually done.

Her height is given as 159cm on the Seventeen website as well, so I've changed that.

I've also deleted the reference to Mizu ni Sumu Hana 2. This hasn't been announced on her blog front page, which means it isn't official, even if it is happening. It may be; she is signed up for another unannounced film. However, prior to an official announcement, I don't think it belongs in an encyclopedia.

David Chart 11:56, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

Sono Toki ha Kare ni Yoroshiku
I've only seen her character's name in Kanji. The reading I've given is possible, but there are a lot of permissible readings for the kanji in question. If I find somewhere that gives the reading, I may well need to update it.

David Chart 10:59, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

University
While I have seen a lot of claims that she is at Meiji University, and tend to believe it myself, I have not seen it in a reliable source, nor has she named her university in any public forum. As this is a living person biography, I am strongly inclined to leave the name of the university out until something more authoritative appears. Note that, as Wikipedia does not allow original research, "I am at university with her" does not count.

David Chart 09:12, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

MySpace
Here's how we know that the MySpace page previously linked is fake.


 * She has never mentioned it in her blog. Her blog, on the other hand, has been mentioned in both her books and a couple of magazine interviews.
 * The Japanese on the page is below my written standard, and nothing like Keiko's written style, of which we have extensive samples on the blog.
 * She would not give her name in English in the middle of Japanese text. She is Japanese; her name is Japanese.
 * She is not a singer, and is not signed with any record labels. She is an actress. Her English is quite good enough to avoid making that mistake.
 * She plays down her association with Sailor Moon these days.

David Chart 09:12, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

And for the latest "real" one:


 * She has written Japanese in romaji. That's extremely rare for Japanese people; it looks odd and is very hard to read.
 * When they do write romaji, they write the topic particle as "ha", because that's the kana used for it, even though it is pronounced "wa".
 * "I am not fake" is a massive giveaway for a fake.
 * This line of reasoning is similar to the gag in "Monty Python's Life of Brian" where only the real Messiah can deny that he's the Messiah. 68.39.87.53 14:03, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
 * The "real" Ayaka is almost certainly fake as well.
 * Prove it. 68.39.87.53 14:03, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

As for blessed_officialkeiko, the profile has been set to private since I checked it last, but at that point:


 * It was all in English.
 * In the "ask Keiko" bits, the owner seemed to think that Keiko was studying medicine.

David Chart 12:36, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

People adding the links have to prove that they are genuine. This is supposed to be an encyclopedia, which means that only well-established information should be included. So: Prove it's real.

As for the "I am not fake" thing: there is no need to put that on your own site. You can tell your actual friends that it is really your site. You can link to it from your well-established blog. Actually writing "I am not a fake" is the same as saying "I never tell lies", and expecting that to settle the question of whether you are telling the truth.

David Chart 05:49, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

According to what she wrote me, she didn't put her MySpace address in Blog3 is because she does not want to jeopardize her contract with Stardust, who maintains the blog. She sends them a note and pictures, and they approve the content. Does anyone know anything about Japanese entertainment contract law around here to clarify things?

Gpietsch 14:40, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

Possible, but unlikely. There are various pieces of evidence that suggest that she posts the blog herself (posting times, later revisions).

And if that is true, that's just another good reason not to link to the MySpace page from Wikipedia. We should be supporting not getting Keiko fired.

David Chart 12:19, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

Friendster
So, why isn't this real?


 * Hyogo Prefecture isn't her home town. It's a whole prefecture. She has talked about her hometown on her blog, and was more specific.
 * The URL is for the friendster page, not for her official blog, her page on Stardust, or, indeed, anything else.

Basically, until something we know is really Keiko, probably her blog, links to one of these sites as hers, I don't think that they are encyclopedic content. There is no reliable source.

David Chart 12:40, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

Changes to Life
I've edited the life section to include almost nothing but referenced facts. I don't have a reference for her faculty at Meiji (although I have been pointed to a reference to Meiji), but I know that she's mentioned that several times in her blog. When I find or am shown one, I'll had a cite for that as well.

The sources for her getting scouted get the timing wrong: in one she says she was seventeen, in another eighteen. However, since she was appearing in PGSM within two months of her seventeenth birthday, I suspect that she was actually scouted when she was sixteen. Thus, I've been vague about the timing.

David Chart 10:22, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

Religion
I've deleted the statement that she's a Christian. While there are some things that suggest she may be, particularly in her account of her trip to the US, there are things that suggest otherwise, particularly the fact that she is on film praying at a Shinto shrine. It would not surprise me to learn that she is a Christian, but I don't think it's a reliably attested fact at the moment.

David Chart 05:57, 5 April 2007 (UTC)


 * I have asked her what religion she was. She wrote back that she grew up a Buddhist, but she visits Christian churches on occasion and doesn't really practice her religion. As for her praying at a Shinto shrine, well, she could pray wherever she wants.


 * 76.99.238.2 22:21, 11 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Thanks, however note that this kind of research is considered original research, and cannot be included into the article (although it is a fact). Thanks for your effort nevertheless! -- ReyBrujo 01:46, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

Kono Sekai no Katasumi ni
I change "Kono Sekai no Katasumi ni" from "Film" to "Television", as in japanese wikipedia states. Bass-Kuroi (talk) 00:05, 9 January 2013 (UTC) And I added link too Bass-Kuroi (talk) 00:07, 9 January 2013 (UTC)

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