Talk:Keira Knightley/Archive 2

Stage Work
Keira's stage work is listed here as being "local amateur productions," but this source claims that Keira's After Juliet as at the Young Vic, which is a well-respected and not amateur theatre. Elbeonore 00:35, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * After Juliet was comissioned for NT Connections, a youth theatre festival. Youth groups put on one of the plays and then a regional heat is held (the base for London children is the Young Vic), then the final is held at the National Theatre itself. It was an amateur production. I'm not sure AF has ever been performed professionally - three plays from the 2005 Connections cycle were, and two of those will be revived this year though.Amo 00:46, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Skandar Keynes
Who is Skandar Keynes, why does the biography say she is married to him, and why can't it be edited out?
 * Please, it is not funny to joke like this. Someone could have a heart attack. ;) &mdash;Viriditas | Talk 11:55, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

Natalie not dubbed by Keira
Although Portman's voice while a "queen", was very deep and regal and slightly British, she's said in interviews that it was digitally altered from her own dialouge. Amo 12:51, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Having just seen the film for the first time, i think it's pretty obvious that Keira was in fact dubbed by Natalie. Amo 22:46, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

Hey, this isn't a forum to discuss dubbing or not. We'd need a source for that info. BlackPearl14 03:17, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Age discrepancy
Five years ago, I recall that Keira Knightley was born in 1983. (A year younger than myself.) It is now widely publicized that she was born in 1985. (three years younger than me.) Fan websites carry both dates. cf. the old talkpage here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Keira_Knightley/Archive1#Self-contradictory indicating she was 11 in 1994, which would match my recollection. Can anyone think of a way to verify her age? --need to get a login
 * there is a lot of discrepancy between reports. Her own statements have consistently supported the date most often referenced (26/03/85). The best thing i can think of, is that her leavers yearbook counts her as part of the class of 2001 (you leave school at 16 in the UK). Amo 16:58, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Not necessarily, not everyone quits after GCSEs. In fact, she stayed on to do A levels, but quit when offered a part in Dr Zhivago. Hazzjm 22:42, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, the one that's been on the net is a year 11 leavers book. Since she started her Alevels at a different institution to where she did GCSEs, i'd say it's likely her first school didn't even have a sixth form. and she's be unlikely featured in the AS yearbook, as she says she never completed her first year of AS. Amo 20:16, 22 May 2006 (UTC)


 * there's no ways she was only born in 85'. then she'd only be 17 or 18 in the first pirates movie. she definitely looks at least 20 and her voice doesn't sound like a 17/18 year old. - (havent got id yet)

She was 17 when she filmed POTC1. If you listen to the DVD commentaries they mention it, as well as that fact she finished her scenes a few days before her 18th, but that the crew thought it was her birthday and made her a cake. Amo 15:53, 28 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Problem is, that means she would have been 15 when she filmed the topless scene in [The Hole] - which wouldn't be possible under British Law.

She was 15. It was legal. Amo 20:16, 28 August 2006 (UTC)

According to the England & Wales birth index, Keira Christina Knightley was born in March/April 1985. --Fallout boy 20:11, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

I went to school with the girl and can very much confirm she was borni in 1983 NOT 1985, it's common in TV / Film to lie about your age.

And fake the birth index? Iorek85 00:09, 19 November 2006 (UTC)

Could you explain how it was legal for her topless scene at age 15? I thought the UK age of consent is 16? This: (unreliable source - do not use) www.postchronicle.com/news/original/article_21276829.shtml says she was 16 at the time... 212.1.157.72 13:12, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
 * That link doesn't work for me. It was legal bacause it wasn't an erotic scene, and her parent's gave consent. Amo 18:13, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

and just because the age of consent in england is 16 does mean she can't go topless their isn't a law about that unless she was a child (which she wasn't) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.31.178.60 (talk) 23:49, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

She was topless at 15, the films release was delayed until she was 16 years old, at which point it became legal —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.241.184.81 (talk) 10:55, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

Keira was born on March 26, 1985. Flamingtorch372 18:00, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

I read that he was 18 when she shot "Gwyn", cuz the girl she plays is also 18 and it really would make sense to let a 16 year old play an 18 year old, most directors would rather do the opposit... that would mean she was born in 1983 @ Iorek85: How do you know that it says 1985 in the birth index? 81.245.58.140 (talk) 20:12, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

Latest Vogue magazine
There's some interesting information here if someone wants to add it:. Incredible photos, too. :) &mdash;Viriditas | Talk 09:19, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Keira Knightley
I would like to add keirachristinaknightley.com for Keira Knightley as external link. It is allowed to have one fansite for Keira Knightley. John Der 04:01, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

The Best Time Of Our Lives
Is this movie actually varified yet? Cause there is no sign at all anywhere for this movie. FANSTAR 21:25, 2 July 2006 {CEST}
 * Here: Mad Jack 19:27, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

Hmmm
Does anyone think this is worth noting in the article? It seems to be more of a "I'm not" thing than "I am", and we could have a lot of "I'm not"'s in the article, but still. Thoughts appreciated. Mad Jack 16:18, 4 July 2006 (UTC)


 * not really. A lot has been written about her figure in the past, and today in the wake of the POTC2 UK premiere. She's repeatedly said she's not ill. If she is, it's been going on since before she was famous, as she's always looked like that, even if that unflattering dress does happen to accentuate it. Amo 16:36, 4 July 2006 (UTC)


 * hmm... true... but if a lot has been written on her figure, maybe we should have something in there? I dunno, something along the lines of "Knightley has denied speculation that she is anorexic, citing that she...", etc. Just a line or something? Mad Jack 17:24, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

Talking about her dyslexia, a friend's wife went to the same school as Keira/Kiera and said that she was not dyslexic and consistently produced good grades. Perhaps the dyslexia story is one that was created for publicity reasons? This should be checked out! okay keira does have dyslexia she had tests as a kid for it dylexia is not about just not bein able to read i've have it and as you get older writing and reading is not as bad but you'll always have it just because you have dylexia doesn't mean you aren't smart just means you'll need a little more help with things lots of gr8 people (even scienes) have it.


 * Unfortunately this is a problem of supposed anorexia and not dyslexia but as the article is about Keira, and she herself has said that she is not anorexic, it is appropriate to believe her. BlackPearl14 03:21, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

We need a new picture
The most recent one was removed for copyright reasons. Can anyone find another? TheKillerAngel 17:39, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, I dunno. Can we use a screenshot? The last one was removed because it was a screenshot. I can easily find a screenshot if we are allowed to use one. I'm sure there are good stills of Knightley from the new Pirates movie here. Mad Jack 18:03, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * According to Fair use, screenshots can only be used to illustrate a critical commentary on the movie/tv program. --Abu Badali 18:28, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Great, I'm sure I can add a ton of critical commentary to the picture. Mad Jack 02:31, 5 July 2006 (UTC)

Pirates of the Caribbean 3
It says she finished filming 2 and 3, but the cast actually took a break until August. Film 3 should be done filming in October. Not sure how to incoporate that into the page, so I will just let someone else do it. DJKingpin 09:16, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Done. Mad Jack 18:36, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

"I before e" name change?
A revert has been made to this article removing the sentence: Her name was originally spelled as Kiera, but she changed the spelling to 'ei' to make it easier for the public to spell. as it was unsourced. I've been trying to find a source for the information but have only come up with this one which contains the phrase: ''She was born Kiera Knightley on the 22nd of March, 1985, in Teddington, south-west London. Her name would become Keira as her Hollywood career took off, the change shamelessly breaking the golden rule of "I before E except after C" but making the name more easily pronounceable on a worldwide basis.'' I've looked further but have only found 2 other websites who make the claim. What's important to note is that all of them appear to be verbatim copies of the same single website. Does anyone know of a quote from Keira in an interview or the like where she has verified this? Is this supposed name change official? Yay unto the Chicken 14:28, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I just checked IMDB and it says nothing of the name change. It says she was born Keira not Kiera. DJKingpin 06:39, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * That means she probably was born "Kiera" :) Remember this important life lesson - if IMDB says something, the opposite is likely true. Seriously though (well, I was serious, in a sense, do not trust the IMDB), I think the IMDB started the "Kiera" thing. I am 99% sure that was listed as her birth name over the IMDB for the longest time, before someone alerted them that they are, once again, wrong Mad Jack 06:46, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * You just contradicted yourself. You say they are always wrong, so it must be Kiera. Then you say it used to say Kiera, but they found out that they were wrong, so it must be Keira. -DJKingpin 10:02, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

That quote is from a fan bio (i think written by the guy who runs Keiraweb) that used to be on IMDb too. But recently, he's had contact with her agency, so i always assumed this was taken down because he was informed that this wasn't true. I reckon it was a simple clerical error in the "Oliver Twist" credits. Amo 09:19, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

I've just looked at the Birth registers at Ancestry.co.uk, and she was registered Keira. See this link. --Berks105 10:18, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
 * I didn't contradict myself. I said they are usually very wrong, and they were the ones that started the "Kiera" story, which, of course, is wrong. :) Thanks for looking up the Ancestry records. I was sure that "Kiera" was just another IMDB wrong-o. Mad Jack 16:26, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

if that name change is true, it is possible because i can recall her name being spelled as "kiera". —Preceding unsigned comment added by Janna1266444 (talk • contribs) 05:05, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Barefooter?
Personally i wouldn't call Keira a barefooter. there is one set of pictures of her walking barefoot, i think taken near her home. She's never spoken out about any philosophy she might hold behind this. However, if we're going to keep the category, then i think it's a good excuse to head over to barefoot and edit what is a pretty incomplete and POV article. Amo 13:34, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Don't worry, I've nominated it for deletion. This is a very pointless category Mad Jack 16:04, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Deleting it from this article? or deleting the barefoot article itself?! Amo 15:31, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
 * The category itself, of course! I always go straight to the source with these things Mad Jack 17:37, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

Did you really delete the category?! that's not what i was suggesting, you know. it is a way of life for a lot of ppl. It's not something i agree with personally, and when i read the article, it had obvously been written by a complete flake, but i'm retty sure it deserves to be there. Amo 18:08, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
 * I appreciate that it's a way of life, but the people included in the category were not really people who were actual "barefooters", just mostly people who, say, went barefoot at a concert they performed once. Anyway, I nominated it for deletion and last time I checked it was all "Delete"s. I gotta say that I didn't stick around and see, but I presume it was deleted. Mad Jack 01:17, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

it's no big deal! she might have just woke up one day and dedcided to walk without any footwear. geez... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Janna1266444 (talk • contribs) 05:09, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

Career milestone
I think that Bend It Like Beckham should be added as one of Keira's career milestones. I understand that this was her first starring role in a major film, and that afterward she began to get noticed. What do you think? --Canadian Joeldude 01:46, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Go for it. Mad Jack 04:16, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

Well, i agree that it's milestone, but it's only a starring role depending on your view. she was playing the "best freind" role. Personally i think milestones are Episode1, The Hole, BILB, POTC, P&P. I don't think DMC is a particular milestone for her. her role and performance are both unremarkable, she's just been blitzed with publicity for the "anorexia" comments, and once again being the onyl girl on the promotional circuit. Amo 09:13, 14 July 2006 (UTC)


 * I agree with you on DMC not being included. I'm going to remove it until the possible event that it could turn into a career milestone. --Canadian Joeldude 20:23, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, it does have the highest grossing opening weekend ever. :) Mad Jack 20:48, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I know about the figures, and that would seem to suggest it's a milestone, but as i said it's not really a "keira knightley" film. I guess IMO it's more of a "Keira was in the highest grossing film..." factoid, rather than a "this achieved x for her in her career" moment. Either way, i don't disagree with it staying - i can see the logic. Amo 22:27, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

I suppose on this one we'll just have to wait and see. It is hard to tell now what the effect of Dead Man's Chest is on her career, as it only opened recently. Perhaps in the future we can count the whole POTC series as a career milestone, or not. I'm content to let this lie for now. --Canadian Joeldude 07:17, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

I'm going to be bold and remove DMC from the list....other than it having the highest-grossing 1st weekend, it's not really a career milestone. The first POTC really made her a household name, and Pride and Prejudice got her an Oscar nom....DMC wasn't really that remarkable for her career, it's just continuing a trend. But, I could be wrong. GrahameS 17:55, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Excellent work, i had just plucked up the courage to do thatmyself. You've saved me a job. Amo 19:35, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Problem with Image:Yxa.blod.Keira.Knightley.JPG
Again, someone is claiming there is a problem with the copyright for Image:Yxa.blod.Keira.Knightley.JPG. If someone wants to save this image feel free to help me. Bronks 12:27, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Career/Personal Life
I've moved some stuff (magazine covers, fashion, etc) from the career section to the personal life section, I think it helps the focus of the article better. Comments? GrahameS 19:59, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Kabbalah
I removed this reference to her joining Kabbalah.
 * In May of 2006, Knightley was reported to be a member of the Jewish Kabbalah religion.

Contact Music isn't known for journalistic integrity, and I couldn't find any other verifiable sources. Also wearing a red string isn't exactly a public declaration that you're in Kabbalah. If there's better evidence it could be readded. GrahameS 19:59, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

Anorexia
She denies being anorexic by claiming that her family has a history of anorexia (how this helps her claim, I have no idea), but what else could cause someone so young to be so devoid of any fat and muscle? Looking at photos of her from a month ago, I think she needs to be forcefed. Dionyseus 06:55, 27 August 2006 (UTC)


 * No, she denies being anorexic by denying that she’s anorexic: “I can safely say that I'm not.” And, lest people question her qualification to make that claim, she proceeds to mention that she is familiar with the disease through family and friends. Thanks for replacing the broken Yahoo link. --Rob Kennedy 07:54, 27 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I honestly believe she's a naturally small girl. I've been asked a lot if I was anorexic, because I'm five foot and weight nothing at all. But that's because I am tiny. I fluctuate between weights, but she strikes me as a smart girl and if she was anorexic, would seek treatment. Otherwise, people are fishing for reasons to discredit her. And as for it running in her family, she's indicating that her family knows the symptoms, as does she, and can keep an eye out for it. Losing weight does not prove anorexia. It simply proves someone is losing weight. The only people capable to suspecting, diagnosing and treating anorexia are health care professionals. Not arm chair psychologists on Wikipedia. Vaguely 15:40, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
 * I completely agree. She must say herself that "I am anorexic" or some other firm, verifiable source. I'm so big on that source thing :) BlackPearl14 03:25, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Vanity Fair cover
In this article, the Vanity Fair cover featuring Scarlett Johansson and Keira Knightley is dated "March 2006", while in the article about Scarlett Johansson it is dated "February 2006". What's the right one? -- Daĉjo почта 18:06, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

External link
Hi, i added an external link yesterday that links to a site called Celebrity Spotlight, and it features news, a profile and images for Keira Knightley. But it was removed and i recieved a message saying it was spam. The link is Keira Knightley at Celebrity Spotlight. I just thought it would be a relevant link, and thought it needed to be discussed. I don't know properly how wikipedia works out these things, so thanks anyway. --Rikardo69 14:32, 23 November 2006 (UTC)


 * This site is completely inappropriate for the Wikipedia. Yet again, please read WP:EL.  --Yamla 16:52, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

personal life?
i suspect some vandalism, could someone familiar with this page please check: 1) in the celebrity section, it says keira is famously open with media re personal life, then at the end of the section quotes keira saying that she doesnt talk about her personal life. if this isnt vandalism then someone isn't very smart/has written a contradictory article. at least explain the comments if both are valid and one is 'more right'. 2) under trivia: raindrops on her teeth? could this be elaborated on? is this by tapping her teeth? or playing the piano with her teeth? could someone cite a source?
 * well, the source doesn't specifiy that she's open about her personal life. I've edited it so it's slightly better IMO. Amo 17:31, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

There was also a claim made on the page that she is engaged, but no sources were named. I took it off because I haven't heard anything like that, but if someone has a source I'll change it back.Lebroyl 16:01, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

Amen with that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Janna1266444 (talk • contribs) 05:11, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

British or English?
I am usually a big fan of citing sources, but citing a source for something as simple as a person's nationality seems silly. Too many footnotes make an article hard to read. I've gone back to the archive, and understand the argument. Can we take out the footnote and just put something like to make it more readable? --In Defense of the Artist 05:14, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Sounds good to me - i've just never learned how to add those little notes, so you'd better do it!07:05, 16 January 2007 (UTC)


 * She is a British Actress, so it says here. as well as other articles, such as here  (see opening paragraph),  (under nationality). Any other questions regarding it? BlackPearl14 03:28, 30 October 2007 (UTC)


 * English is subset of British. You might as well cite sources saying she's from Europe or Earth. 82.32.13.173 (talk) 16:40, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

If she called herself Martian would that mean it is legitimate to call her a Martian Actress? No, the English nationality doesn't exist. Its British. Gavin Scott (talk) 00:11, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Gavin Scott, if the English nationality doesn't exist then neither does the Scottish. 79.74.17.10 (talk) 02:32, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
 * EXACTLY. BlackPearl14 Hermione Granger's Muggle Alias 00:22, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

wtf do you mean the "the English nationality doesn't exist" Do you say that to a fan of football who is supporting England during the world cup? I think not! I would tend to say both English and British is okay to use. Govvy (talk) 10:49, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

yes english as an idenity does exist and me im american but am of partial english decent  when people ask me about my background i never say british i say english English people--Wikiscribe (talk) 05:02, 8 April 2008 (UTC)


 * WP:UKNATIONALS might help. I'd be inclined to go for British in the infobox, English in the lead/article. --Jza84 | Talk  21:57, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Why can't she be both? or better yet, ask her. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Janna1266444 (talk • contribs) 05:13, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

English is a nationality, but not in the way that we conventionally understand it. You cannot be an English "citizen" as England is part of the United Kingdom (consisting of Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland). So when referring to her nationality in terms of which country she is a citizen, she would be called "British." If you're to refer to a cultural identity, she is English. That's as best as I could put it. For Americans, it would be similar to (though not the same) as state vs country. It's just a bit more complicated. The fact of the matter is, however, that she is a British citizen, which is the question at hand. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sophomoric (talk • contribs) 03:07, 5 March 2010 (UTC)

Sophomoric (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 03:09, 5 March 2010 (UTC).

Position in 100 Sexiest List
I apologise if the link was unwarrented. When I saw the other links to positions in various top lists, I thought I would add it. I thought that the whole point of Wikipedia was that people added information to pages to improve the quality and quantity of information, I was unaware that there was any kind of hoops to jump through before adding content.
 * It's not so much an issue of jumping through hoops, but you might like to read this: Article development :) Amo 01:47, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

Sexy List
I think the article should say more about Keira's alleged eating disorder, which gets coverage in the tabloids and in gossip magazines practically every week, and less about how 'sexy' she is. Besides, she's too try-hard to be sexy... though that has nothing to do with the improvement of the article. 212.139.171.139 17:48, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

She does not have an eating disorder, see other related (now updated) topics here. BlackPearl14 03:29, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

i have added that she sued the daily mail (they are many many seources saying it) butthis is not a place to gossip and add people personal appinions of people it's about writing things about the person the page it talking about and as well as knowing to be slim she's has being voted buy many magazines for being "sexy" i've add more info about the claims but we can't just add she's very skinny and needs to eat and has and eat disorder because she hasn't, and lets talk about anorexia as an illness (which is what it is) and not saying that people who have it are bad nasty people as it's not their fualt they have it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.31.178.60 (talk) 23:37, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Mother Is Irish?
I've never seen anyone suggest that Sharman is Irish. Has someone just confused that with the fact that Keira refers to herself as "Black Scottish", persumably a variation on black Irish?Amo 16:43, 22 February 2007 (UTC)


 * Well we're gonna have to find a better source then, right? I think someone just confused it. BlackPearl14 03:30, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

Pirates of the Caribbean Reference
In the first paragraph of this article, it is mentioned that, in 2003, Keira Knightley became very well known because of two films. The issue I have is that the Pirates of the Caribbean is referred to as a trilogy at this point in the article. Now, I'm not saying that PotC is not a trilogy, but that the first movie should be referred to in this instance because it was the first movie that made her famous, not the trilogy. I wanted to mention it before I made any action to change the sentence in the article itself. (talk to)SailorAlphaCentauri 15:24, 27 March 2007 (UTC)

Pronunciation
Isn't Keira pronounced /ˈkɪəɹə/ rather than /ˈkiɹə/? i.e. it rhymes with nearer. AlexOUK 13:54, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
 * I'm not a native speaker but the source cited in the article (the latter currently saying the name's pronounced /ˈkɪəɹə/) to substantiate the pronounciation claims it to be /ˈkiɹə/. And I always thought "nearer" to be pronounced /ˈniɹə/ anyway. So may someone qualified please change the article or the source. --Mudd1 (talk) 20:56, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

Over-use of rotten tomatoes
There seems to be quite a few references to Rotten Tomatoes film ratings in the article. I wonder if we're giving the site undue prominence and thus perhaps not such a balanced article? Kevin Judson 23:13, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Two things
Why is Bend it like Beckham noted in the filmography list as her American breakthrough. As far as I am aware it was her breakthrough everywhere and fail to so see why America is mentioned. This was her breakthrough film, full stop. I'm taking the word America out, if anyone has a reasonable reason to add it reply here.

Second, next to the reference part about her supporting West Ham there is an unreference statement saying her favourite footballer is formet Liverpool player Igor Biscan. If this had said Steven Gerrard, David Beckham, Ronaldihio, Zinadine Zidane etc I might not have battered an eyelid, but to say her fave footballer was a gangly, slightly usless, Croatian bit part player at Liverpool and not reference it is a little dodgy. JimmyMac82 22:03, 7 September 2007 (UTC)


 * We need a source for all this, but in America, Bend it like Beckham was a major hit, and how she was best known (first) here. BlackPearl14 03:33, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

(Can) Someone (Please) take these (I mean these ) things away?!
While she is "not planning to have children at the moment... everyone changes, and [Knightley is]sure there will be a time [when she will] want to do something different. [She] could completely see [her]self moving away [from acting]."[20]

Seriously, all those brackets just look silly. Also, the '...' doesn't make this part look very professional. I would change it myself but I don't know the original quote (if it even is one) and I know hardly anything about Keira Knightley at all, so I think I'll mess it up. Could somebody who actually knows how to do that properly do it? Allthecoolnamesweretaken 15:56, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

The brackets can't be taken away, because the quote was made in first person, but the article is in third person. In order for it to make sense, and to keep the article written in third person, the brackets have to be there, because otherwise, you confuse the reader into thinking that the article is suddenly talking about the writer (if the original quote is kept with the "I"s) or the reader might think that the original quote had all the "She"s and "Her"s which would mean that Knightley was talking about herself in third person. SonicTiff (talk) 09:24, 6 January 2008 (UTC)


 * Or you can just rephrase the sentence the quote appears in, like I've done. Iorek (talk) 10:07, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

Nude scene she did at 16
How come there is no mention of the scene where she shows her breasts in 'The Hole' when she was 16? I know the age of consent in Britain is 16, but in the U.S. it's 18 so isn't her scene technically considered child pornography? Daniel Chiswick (talk) 02:14, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Why is that nude scene notable? Nudity in itself does not constitute pornography, BTW. - Duribald (talk) 06:46, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

LIKE HELL IT IS that was a british movie keira is british and so its totally fine there are lots of page three models that are 16-17 years old doesn't mean anything if a american celeb got drunk in britian under 21 they wouldn't go to jail cause it is agianst the law in america would they as they aren't doing anything wrong buy the laws of the country they was in at the time. Only if keira went topless in a amercian movie or magazine under 18 would it be wrong and keria wouldn't be the one getting into trouble the person that took the picture or filmed it would (think R-Kelly)Veggiegirl (talk) 16:43, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Matthew MacFayden?
Wasn't she and Pride and Prejudice co-star Matthew MacFayden in a serious relationship? I heard they were getting married! ...Maybe this is just celebrity gossip...

Sorry I didn't sign, I'm not logged in: User:Working for Him —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.136.26.26 (talk) 14:20, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
 * You need a proper source for this sort of thing. It's not true, by the way, hence the source need. BlackPearl14 Pirate Lord-ess 16:06, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

singing
keira did sing in the edge of love why did someone delete it i'm not putting it back up you can, why waste my time cause you can't take the fact that keira can sing put it back up there was nothing wrong with it82.22.206.205 (talk) 04:36, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

If you want it on there so bad, why don't you do it? --69.235.95.77 (talk) 05:35, 14 June 2008 (UTC)

Wizards of Waverly Place reference
One of the episodes including the "Crazy Hat Dance" mentions Keira. Could someone add that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.222.143.48 (talk) 22:28, 23 June 2008 (UTC)


 * Honestly, I don't think it's a very notable reference.--24.98.252.13 (talk) 08:53, 12 October 2008 (UTC) Evelyne

H.e.r.m.i.e?!
Erm...is there any particular reason why the Keira Knightley article seems to have been renamed "H.e.r.m.i.e"?! 92.11.110.187 (talk) 12:02, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
 * It was a long-term vandal, it has been fixed and reverted now. Woody (talk) 12:26, 31 August 2008 (UTC)

Keira is not of Welsh Heritage
There is no evidence to back this claim up. Please remove it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.4.16.146 (talk) 23:20, 7 October 2008 (UTC)


 * In the interview currently cited, Keira says that half of her mother's side of the family is Welsh. Also, I found this http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/apr/29/film.filmnews which states that Sharman McDonald's father is Welsh. According to both Keira and her mother, she does in fact have Welsh heritage. --24.98.252.13 (talk) 01:31, 13 October 2008 (UTC)Evelyne

charity reindeer
i think it's a good idea to mention it in the body of the article because the filmography and the robbie the reindeer article dont mention that it was a charity project. But obviously i can't stop you changing it back. Amo (talk) 15:02, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
 * i readded the info about when johnny met keira, my rationale being that most of her credits in the filmography section aren't referenced or mentioned in the "main article" (ie career section). Amo (talk) 01:54, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
 * The difference is that filmography/roles/awards are taken from the IMDB data that is considered reliable and the careers section is adequately referenced, according to good article review. When Johnny Met Keira is not mentioned in the IMDB listings whatsoever. Her 2005 listing for Comic Relief is Comic Relief: Red Nose Night Live 05 as herself and nothing saying When Johnny Met Keira. This has to be verifiable. It wasn't listed in the sources given for the rest of the paragraph. It may seem picky, but this is a good article and relevant facts must have sourcing. Wildhartlivie (talk) 09:17, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

former fashion model
wow, i was really surprised to see this in the opener. i noticed it's not been discussed before - does anyone else share my doubts? it's a pretty cluttered opening already and i wonder at the use of the word former. what's to suggest she's not going to pick up more modeling work in the future? the think the current phrasing makes it sound like a former career. and isn't she posibly still under contract with chanel? Amo (talk) 04:34, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
 * You're correct. "Former fashion model" suggests she worked as a model professionally (as in a career) before entering acting. As far as I know she has been acting since she was very young, and has merely endorsed other brands on the side (Chanel, Asprey, and Lux hair products are the only things that come to mind) like many other actresses. Anyway, I'll remove it. Also, yes, she is still with Chanel. Recently she attended a Chanel event and says she's been doing some new adverts. Maybe this should be included in the article somewhere? 24.98.252.13 (talk) 01:04, 7 February 2009 (UTC)Evelyne

"Kiera Knightley's Underwear" - running joke??
OK, so in a robot chicken episode, some guy gets killed and hopes to come back as Kiera Knightley's underwear. At first I just thought this was a regular one-time joke, but then I saw something along the same lines about her underwear in another show (I forgot which one). So I'm wondering if this is some sort of running joke or something? 129.107.81.12 (talk) 07:20, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Who knows. Maybe someone stole the line from Robot Chicken. Wildhartlivie (talk) 07:30, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

Rhubarb nonsense
Where does this rhubarb diet nonsense come from? She's never said anything like that. Not in Vanity Fair and not anywhere else. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.119.248.41 (talk) 14:31, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm wondering the same. All these blogs/people says she follows or followed the Rhubarb diet, yet I can't find a proper source where she said this. I'd be happy if someone showed me.
 * Iheartfreja (talk) 02:32, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
 * Unsourced, smells like vandalism or worse - trivia... Removed it! :-) -Duribald (talk) 02:45, 14 March 2009 (UTC)

Awards section
Why isn't there an awards box for this article? It seems like she's won enough to warrant it.Dukeofwulf (talk) 14:13, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The awards are covered quite well in the body of the article and are listed in the filmography box. She's been nominated several times, but hasn't won major film awards yet, so there aren't any succession boxes to be added yet. Separate awards sections aren't necessarily included in articles. Wildhartlivie (talk) 16:01, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Domestic ad
Anybody see it, it is a little "extreme" for kids, but it's really important and should be addressed. (JoeLoeb (talk) 21:25, 29 April 2009 (UTC))
 * If you're speaking of the domestic abuse ad, it's already included at the end of Keira Knightley. Wildhartlivie (talk) 04:03, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

Remove the "Boyfriend attemed suicide" bit?
It says according to some articles, yet it only cites one. It also sites one that has no reliable information, and generally this info doesn't even belong in her article. Maybe if he had his own, he could have that there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.28.105.1 (talk) 13:40, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
 * You're quite right, and it has been removed. -Duribald (talk) 15:49, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

The Misanthrope 'acclaim'
Heading Keira Knightley's performance in The Misanthrope as "critically acclaimed" is a straight-forward peacock phrase. It doesn't tell us who did the acclaiming, doesn't explain why it was so acclaimed, and it's a phrase not even used in the cite provided. Indeed, reviews have been mixed, although generally positive. But it is way over the top and not neutral to call it 'acclaimed' on the strength of a single cherry-picked review. If we're to allow this, it would be equally valid to lead with her debut performance being "not unduly stretched" (cite: The Guardian)

Can we not just remove this and let the reviews speak for themselves?-- Escape Orbit (Talk) 00:42, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
 * You are right. Add something at the end of the paragraph to reflect her performance instead. A bit tipsy though, so drawing a blank right now as to how you could word it. Erzsébet Báthory(talk 01:04, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm not going to die in a ditch on this. We should IMHO err on the side of generosity in BLP, esp in these circumstances. It was actuallty a very fine performance. But I didn't see the other reviews. FWIW The Stage gives her what I would call critical acclaim. NBeale (talk) 09:34, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
 * I don't think we need to err on either side and I don't see anything particular about these circumstances. Same principles apply as with any BLP.   State the facts; it was her debut performance.  State what reputable reviews say; mostly positive, although some had reservations.  It seems like the only way to do it neutrally.  The article's purpose isn't to be generous, its to summarise the facts and what has been said.
 * The chief problem I had with it was it simply read like a fansite, where the positive is give undue weight and the negative (no matter how slight) is excluded.
 * I'll have a go at rephrasing. Feel free to improve on it. -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 13:56, 22 December 2009 (UTC)

I still think you should add the full quote on what The Guardian said about her performance. You already mentioned the Daily Mail stating a negative one, however if you read the guardian review, it was mostly a positive review and that statement where she gave a credible performance should be added. I'm sorry but it makes no sense NOT to add that part.

Thats why i feel that it should be changed to "The Guardian, noted that due to the nature of the role "one could say that she is not unduly stretched" but also added "Even if she doesn't always know what to do with her hands, she gives a perfectly creditable performance." [39] However The Daily Mail described her as "little better than adequate".[40]

I mean I wasn't editing it for argument purposes, it was WHAT the quote was. If you're gonna quote someone get the whole thing. 71.187.219.89 (talk) 00:40, 23 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Obviously a judgement call has to be made on what to quote and what not, we can't include everything. I chose the quote from the Guardian because it said something the others didn't, and reflected what I judged the tone of the review, which I saw as generally neutral. Taken in combination with the other quotes I was hoping that it was a fair coverage of the range of opinions without going to any extremes. -- Escape Orbit  (Talk) 11:35, 23 December 2009 (UTC)


 * Escape Orbit I’m not saying you have to include everything but the quote from the guardian was more so positive than neutral. And no you don’t have to include the FULL quote but if you are going to talk about THAT particular quote, then you should at least get enough what it was saying. Cause they didn’t say “She wasn’t duly stretched” they said “one can say she wasn’t duly stretched” they also added this part to it.

“Knightley brings to the role fine, sculpted features, palpable intelligence and a nice mix of faux-innocence and flirtiness. Even if she doesn't always know what to do with her hands, she gives a perfectly creditable performance”


 * If you want to go for neutrality then you should’ve added that part as well. I mean it’s still a neutral opinion and it still reflects the whole “Generally positive” part. Also in talks of CONTRASTING that bit, you should add MORE to the Quote Quinten Letts made in the Daily Mail. Which stated that she had the Charisma of a gold fish.


 * So you have the positive WITH the negative. This doesn’t take away from the neutrality. If anything it shows just how neutral the opinions were.

74.105.159.145 (talk) 17:49, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

The Misanthrope section.
I made an edit to the part about the reception of what the Guardian stated because it's more appropriate since you are quoting them.

The Guardian, noted that due to the nature of the role "one could say that she is not unduly stretched" but also stated "Even if she doesn't always know what to do with her hands, she gives a perfectly creditable performance." [39] However The Daily Mail described her as "little better than adequate" and "has all the charisma of a serviceable goldfish.".[40]

This is a more accurate statement. Especially in contrast towards the generally positive reviews. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheCakeThief (talk • contribs) 04:08, 23 December 2009 (UTC)

Third-youngest Oscar Nominee? That's incorrect
I know it's cited, but something is wrong with the quote "The Academy Award nomination made her the third-youngest performer ever nominated." The quoted article opens "Keira Knightley is the third-youngest performer ever nominated for an Academy Award.". But Keira was 20 when nominated for that Oscar. Among many others, there are Jackie Cooper (age 9), Mickey Rooney (age 19), Keisha Castle-Hughes (Age 13), River Phoenix (age 18), Leonardo Dicaprio (age 19), Tatum O'Neill (age 10), Anna Paquin (age 11), Jodie Foster (age 14), and Linda Blair (age 15). I believe Keira _was_ the third-youngest nominee for Best Actress in a Leading Role--perhaps a clarification is in order? SumnerH (talk) 13:16, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Birthplace
Either Teddington or Sandy. Either the "Early life" section or the infobox is right, but it can't be both. Can someone have a look and make the correction? Jared Preston (talk) 10:21, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

Circumstances of her Birth
Knightley has stated in several interviews the circumstances of her birth, for which Sharmond and Will Knightley agreed to a bet that they would only have a child (Keira) if Sharmond sold a play. I think this is an interesting bit of info that we could squeeze into the biography. Thoughts?

24.126.240.49 (talk)nomnom —Preceding undated comment added 19:37, 19 October 2010 (UTC).

Sounds trivial. Are there any reliable sources? Wlmg (talk) 20:10, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
 * Agree, trivial - sources? --BwB (talk) 13:59, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

Breakthrough
"...but her work in Pride and Prejudice is what took her to true stardom." Malformed drivel like this is why Wikipedia makes me sad.

Circumstances of her birth
Knightley has stated in several interviews the circumstances of her birth, for which Sharmond and Will Knightley agreed to a bet that they would only have a child (Keira) if Sharmond sold a play. I think this is an interesting bit of info that we could squeeze into the biography. Thoughts? 24.126.240.49 (talk)nomnom —Preceding undated comment added 19:37, 19 October 2010 (UTC).
 * Sounds trivial. Are there any reliable sources? Wlmg (talk) 20:10, 19 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Agree, trivial - sources? --BwB (talk) 13:59, 20 October 2010 (UTC)


 * Yes, trivial, but quite interesting. It would need to be sourced and would be a welcome addition to "Early life", which could use some expansion.  Also, regarding that section, please see, below.  &mdash;   Paine Ellsworth  (  CLIMAX  )  08:28, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

Padmé clarification of Sabe's (Knightley's) role
Padmé posed as her own handmaiden when she accompanied the Jedi off the ship representing the Queen Padmé Amidala's interests. So yes one person but acting as two characters later revealed to be one. It's something of a plot hole in the Phantom Menace that the Jedi didn't notice she had the first name as the queen. Perhaps Padmé is a common name. The fact that queen decoy Sabe (Knightley) dubs the Queen's dialogue in varying releases make it more confusing. Moreover this whole ruse in the Phantom Menace was designed to confuse, and apparently worked in the real world as well. The section could use some clarification for all it would do. --Wlmg (talk) 03:03, 4 November 2010 (UTC)


 * The statement in this article is the first I've heard of Knightley's voice being used to dub over Portman's. I was under the impression that they had at times, specifically when she appeared as the Queen, lowered Portman's voice digitally in post production but that it was always Portman speaking. Is there a source for the claim that they replaced the voice of one of the film's stars with Knightley's? Being a bit of a giant geek I'm surprised to never have heard of this despite having watched and read embarrassing amounts of behind the scenes stuff. If true it sure would be interesting trivia. --195.198.42.205 (talk) 15:54, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

"She requested an agent as early as the age of three and got one when she turned six, from her mother as a reward for studying hard."?
wikipedia allows rumblings of parents now? --195.74.255.127 (talk) 15:46, 10 May 2011 (UTC)

Dating
Whom is she dating? It only says 'She has been dating since late February 2011'. Anyone? — Preceding unsigned comment added by NorddeutscherBund (talk • contribs) 15:06, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Kiera Knightley
Conflicting sources? Why? Have you read them? Here is another one that says the same thing of IMDb (Kiera Knightley in Star Wars). --79.9.73.219 (talk) 08:18, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

Other sources: Young, Famous and British! Keira Knightley's Bebo Profile Tripod Netscape Celebrity --79.3.76.180 (talk) 08:40, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * This discussion explains why Kiera is an invention by IMDB. Keira is the only name. --L&#39;Eremita (talk) 12:09, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

This article refers to an interview in Elle where she says that her name was supposed to be Kiera. named after a russian ice skater, but her mother spelt it incorrectly on her birth certificate. 146.200.9.16 (talk) 00:19, 27 January 2015 (UTC)

Awful Main Photo!
That pic has got to be by far the worst pic of Keira I have ever seen. 188.31.196.163 (talk) 14:56, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
 * What a coincidence, I came here to say the same thing. I'm really starting to see a pattern with Wikipedia editors who work on biographical articles. It's like they lack a gene for aesthetic appreciation of images.  Nine times out of ten, our biography articles have the most horrible photo of the person in the infobox, even when we have dozens of great photos on commons waiting to be used.  I just went through this on Billie Piper and I'm starting to wonder what the deal is around here.  Anyway, I'm going to replace the image, as this is ridiculous. Viriditas (talk) 10:11, 5 May 2013 (UTC)

Looks like someone changed it again. 188.29.50.36 (talk) 05:06, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Maybe I can try to deal whth it.--Mr.Sun Yat-sen (talk) 05:40, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Qualifications as a Singer
I know that she has sang in his films thus she has released a couple of soundtrack albums but that does necessarily qualify her as a singer? She only does it in film, which may be argued to be just part of her being an actress in a film. She herself said that she doesn't consider herself as a singer and will not sing outside a context of a film or tv show. So, I don't think she should qualify as a singer. Thoughts?BorjyTorres (talk) 04:08, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I support removing "and singer" from the lead. Even though anyone who sings is a singer, her singing is only in the context of her acting roles, so I agree that the lead should not explicitly claim she's a singer. Also, none of the sources used claim this, which makes this article's claim WP:OR. --82.136.210.153 (talk) 15:40, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Suggestion
In the lead it says "[...] in the Pirates of the Caribbean film series (2003–present)." Knightley's involvement was not until present day. She was not in the 2011 film, and probably won't be in the 2017 film. Therefore I suggest this to be changed to "[..] in the first three films of the Pirates of the Caribbean series (2003, 2006, 2007)." or something along those lines. One source is a 2009 Moviefone interview (referenced by Metro here she said: "It was a completely fantastic experience, and it was an amazingly large portion of my life, but I don’t think I need to go there again. I think that it’s done." Another source is a 2014 Daily Mirror article that is literally titled "Keira Knightley will never go back to Pirates of the Caribbean despite saying she 'loved it'". --82.136.210.153 (talk) 15:25, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Semi-protected edit request on 28 November 2014
For her role as Joan Clarke in The Imitation Game Keira Knightley won:

The Hollywood Film Award for Best Supporting Actress http://www.hollywoodawards.com/2014/11/hollywood-film-awards-winners-announced/

the TCFF North Star Award for Excellence from the Twin Cities Film Festival http://twincitiesfilmfest.org/2014-final-awards

Carolinemichaud (talk) 01:06, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

Have added The Hollywood Film Award for Best Supporting Actress as we have an article to link to, but the Twin Cities Film Festival is considerably less well known - we don't have an article on it. - Arjayay (talk) 17:10, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Career info in "Personal Life" section?
> Speaking to the press in July 2014, Knightley explained that she felt like she had reached the end > of the first stage of her career... This is interesting career-related info, but I don't understand why it's in the Personal Life section. Anyone else think it'd be better elsewhere? – AndyFielding (talk) 09:47, 31 December 2014 (UTC)

were
Regarding "Knightley has denied rumours she were anorexic". I've never seen this form before but the IP here insists it's correct. Anybody care to weigh in? Slight Smile  15:10, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The singular was applies here. Problem solved. Slight  Smile  15:49, 8 March 2015 (UTC)

Years （active）
Here shows「1993--present」 while Chinese Wikipedia shows「1998至今」（1998--present）.Which is right?--Mr.Sun Yat-sen (talk) 04:51, 4 July 2015 (UTC)

Where did she graduated from?
Some of Chinese encyclopedia says that it's Esther College,but I didn't find so called fucking Esther College.Then,where did she graduated from?--Mr.Sun Yat-sen (talk) 03:13, 7 July 2015 (UTC)

Can't "sight-read"
What does this mean? She uses braille?&mdash; Chowbok  ☠  08:09, 16 August 2015 (UTC)

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A High Wind in Jamaica
A BBC radio 4 adaptation she was in.