Talk:Keizer, Oregon

Named after
The current version of this article states "It was named for Thomas Dove and J.B. Keizur, two pioneers who arrived in the Wagon Train of 1843, and later filed donation land claims." (without a source), yet Salem Online History states "Its name came from Thomas D. Keizer, who took up the first homestead in the area and who served as a member of the provisional government in 1843."

Anyone have a definitive source on the naming of Keizer? &mdash; Zaui (talk) 18:16, 7 October 2008 (UTC)


 * It was named after several Keizurs, including Thomas D. Keizur and John Keizur (I assume "J.B."). --Autocorrelation (talk) 00:00, 28 April 2009 (UTC)


 * 'Keizer' is a Dutch word meaning Emperor. When Emperor Napoleon introduced family names in the Netherlands by decreet on Augustus 18, 1811, some pranksters choose the surname 'Keizer'. So when asked "Who are you?", one could reply by saying "I'm the emperor". So it could very well be Mr. Keizer (instead of Keizur). 82.176.160.13 (talk) 22:07, 26 June 2009 (UTC)


 * "Keizur" is undoubtedly a variant Anglicization of the original "Keizer" and certainly a less common one. I suspect that is reflected in the ultimate spelling choice of the Oregon city of Keizer--it's likely more people were familiar with the "Keizer" spelling, as you noted would be a wry way of referring to oneself as an emperor. Autocorrelation (talk) 01:45, 16 August 2009 (UTC)


 * The definitive source, Oregon Geographic Names says it was named for T.B. and J.B. Keizer. It goes on to describe the early settlement by "Thomas D. Keizer (Kaizur)", so obviously they changed their family name at some point, but no further explanation is given. The city was named after its founders, and it appears that at that time they had changed their name already, as there is no mention of a change of the name of the city. Who knows why they changed their name. I doubt that consideration was given to people's familiarity with a particular spelling. I believe the unsourced info mentioned by Zaui, above, was added by a family member. A family history should be easy enough to find. Unfortunately all this speculation is interesting, but borders on a general discussion of the topic, so hopefully I can make it to the library one of these days and find some better sources. Katr67 (talk) 04:52, 16 August 2009 (UTC)


 * And having reread the current version of the article, it says right there, with sources, that the modern spelling of the family name came about through clerical error, so it's not actually a mystery. Katr67 (talk) 04:55, 16 August 2009 (UTC)

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