Talk:Keli Goff

Genealogy web site
The term "original research" (OR) is used on Wikipedia to refer to material, such as facts, allegations, and ideas, without reliable, published sources. The source in question here is a website called Family Tree Legends, a genealogy program that allows users to submit their own information and information about their families. That's perfectly useful for genealogy enthusiasts, but it's not a published source. Now, the birthdate and middle name supplied by the genealogy program here might be accurate, but it's still not good enough as sourcing goes. Flyte35 (talk) 18:24, 7 November 2012 (UTC)


 * i'm somewhat new to wikipedia so please forgive me but that website is used THROUGHOUT WIKIPEDIA as a reliable source and all dates of birth contained on there are 100% ACCURATE. i just want to know why you care so much and keep removing the accurate contribution (i.e. goff's dob) i added to the wikipedia article? please stop removing it and please get back to me, thanks. Bartholomew Bartolini (talk) 12:17, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

See above. Because it's original research. The fact that other people use it on Wikipedia doesn't mean it's an appropriate source, for the reasons I've explained above. I would remove something that cited a user-based genealogy program if I saw it on other pages as well (though I haven't). That's why I keep removing it. That's why I will continue to remove it until there's a reliable, published source. "Verifiability, not truth" is one of Wikipedia's core sourcing policies. Verifiability is a minimum requirement for inclusion of material.Flyte35 (talk) 13:33, 8 November 2012 (UTC)

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