Talk:Kellie Pickler/Archive 1

They Got The Wrong Pickle
Somebody should add something about this.
 * Why? It says ONE line about Kellie Pickler, and numerous paragraphs about some other Pickler. 4.224.162.171 03:01, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

Controversy Section
I removed a HIGHLY suspect controversy section today added by MisterHand, the "source" was an Anti-American Idol type page that was in the format of a blog, ranting about their "source" who turned out to be an "un-named friend" of the subjects. The person supplies non-verifiable information that in my opinion shouldn't be included UNLESS it is reported in a true magazine or newspaper, not some internet fan-site/blog entry. I sure hope MisterHand comes on here to defend this so called "source." Like the subject or not, stuff that diminishes character like that needs a serious source. Batman2005 04:24, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
 * I agree that the source is dubious, but the stuff been flying all over the internet today, so my goal was to put up the information in as NPOV manner as possible in an attempt to stave off anybody who might try and use the information to promote a certain agenda. I think the best approach might be to leave the section out for now and "wait and see." If people keep adding the information back in a POV way, or if this story grows wings, we can always pull back my NPOV version of the material. -- MisterHand 04:33, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Good thinking, i too think she's putting on an act, maybe not totally, but definitely some. That website is pretty ridiculous though, they don't appear to like a single person on the show. Batman2005 04:38, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
 * The idea that she's a phoney seems to be gaining steam: "Then there is the case of Kellie Pickler. Kellie, Kellie, Kellie. I will be the first to say it – I think she’s pulling the wool over our eyes. The evidence seems to be mounting that the wide-eyed hayseed thing is nothing but a routine." But, aside from being pro-Idol, FoxesonIdol isn't much different from VotefortheWorst, so still no "mainstream" source, I guess. — BrianSmithson 16:25, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Regarding the controversy about whether Kellie is as dim as she seems: I worked with her at the Sonic Drive-In in Albemarle, NC before she hit it big, when she was 16 or 17. She did seem kinda slow, even dumb, but...I mean, she was a teenager. Whenever I've seen her on television, her personality has seemed consistent with how she acted back then. So this might be a harsh way to put it, but yeah, she probably is as stupid as she comes across. Sonic was years ago, and I'm sure she's had opportunities to learn and grow in the wider world, etc., but at the basest level, I don't think she was faking it. She might be milking the reputation a little, but at least she really did start out dumb, and that takes integrity. ;P - Jlhamilt (talk) 14:49, 9 January 2009 (UTC)

Anonymous User Vandalism
An Anon recently vandalised the page with the same controversy discussed about, and a new little tidbit about her father being "in and out of jail for helping with the Oklahoma City Bombing." Despite the fact that he wouldn't be "in and out of jail" for being a part of the bombing...he'd probably be IN jail or OUT of jail already. Here is a reputable (you know, a news story, not an internet blog) it CLEARLY states that her father is in jail for a number of things...stabbing, drunk driving, armed robbery, assault. No mention of ever having known Timothy McVeigh, Terry Nichols, been to Oklahoma. Please delete this obvious nonsense if you see it in the article again! Batman2005 05:37, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

Pickler on the spectrum?
It was mentioned in the recognised persons with autism page. Evidence, please.

--EuropracBHIT 11:27, 21 March 2006 (UTC).

Fact details
The "naughty little minx" comment is attributed to the performance of Walkin' After Midnight, but if memory serves, it was actually made after the I'm the Only One performance. Is it not so? --AlphaEtaPi 20:48, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
 * Yes, you are right. I've just moved the comment to the correct performance. SteveJ2006 05:50, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Father - Drug Abuse or Stabbing?
On the American Idol Season FIve Article it says that Kellie's father was in jail for drugs, yet here it states he was involved in a stabbing. Where are you getting this information? Which is right? A little consistency and reliable information would be nice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.106.21.230 (talk • contribs)
 * earlier i looked up Kellie's father in the Florida Department of Corrections. He is in jail for aggravated assault and battery...stemming from the stabbing incident.  There's a charlotte newspaper source that says that he's been in jail before for drug related incidents. 68.78.15.99 19:31, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Encyclopedic Value
Can someone justify the inclusion of an infobox from a celebrity magazine not known for its neutrality or quality saying that the subject is dumb? And if you can justify its inclusion, how is it at all encylcopedic? I grow tired of all these blurbs on these pages like this. These sites are supposed to be for useful information about current events, famous people, etc. Not for the posting of things like..."she's compared to a fellow dumb blonde." It's like including every little bit of celebrity gossip into these articles. I fail to see the value of the "Comparisons" section, so if nobody can give a good solid wikipedia reason to keep it, i'm going to remove it as as entirely non-notable. Batman2005 05:32, 25 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I've removed the image and relocated the material to a mainline treatment of her character on the show. Wasted Time R 13:52, 25 March 2006 (UTC)


 * I've removed the paragraph you added because it appeared to be POV. While it has indeed been speculated by some, it has not been proven anywhere that she is merely "playing a character" on the show, and that she is not being presented as she truly is, therefore that paragraph is vague speculation and not really encyclopedic. Let's keep this article limited strictly to the relevant facts for now. SteveJ2006 09:34, 26 March 2006 (UTC)


 * All of "reality" television involves the presenting of characters, to at least some degree ... but that's a story for another day. I've tried again, just mentioning facts of what she's said.  See what you think.   Wasted Time R 13:10, 26 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Yes, that does seem better, thanks for the rewording. SteveJ2006 16:58, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Votefortheworst and Kick Pickler
Reputable source and verifiable source mean that the information comes from some organization with professional knowledge of a certain area, and that the information contained therein can be independently verified. Both of these sites show nothing more than blind quotes, without attribution to individuals. These should not be included in this page, if a source arises that says she is putting on an act with the names of those accusing, then by all means we'll include that in a controversy section, however, blind quotes are not considered reputable by ANY standard. Additionally, the "sources" that the anonymous user says are in the pages go back to blogs and internet forums, i could write a blog saying that George Clooney is a martian, that doesn't mean it would be included on his webpage does it? No, thus none of these rumors, until substantiated, should be included here. Batman2005 13:08, 31 March 2006 (UTC)


 * Kellie said, live on American Idol, that she had "never sang in front of people before" and that she had only "ever sang in the shower before." From the horse's mouth - is that reputable enough for you?  What do you want, a video of her saying it?  The Kick Pickler site has images of her performing live in a state-wide singing contest, and links to the TV station's website listing Pickler as a finalist, and featuring many photos of her singing in that contest.  This is evidentiary sound proof that she is putting on an act.  Yet you keep deleting the links to the Kick Pickler and Vote for the Worst sites.  Why?  You are exercising editorial bias.  Her own statements, made live on national television, and the news articles and photos of her competing, are both admissible in court.  But theyre not "solid" enough for Batman2005 at Wikipeda?

Someone should add that she's a moron who thought Europe was a country, and had never even heard of the country Hungary, which she pronounced "Hungry." Check out the New York Times article titled "Dumb and Dumber: Are Americans Hostile to Knowledge?" published on Feb. 14 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.27.2.77 (talk) 19:50, 15 February 2008 (UTC)


 * I heard her say it, and i've heard her say it a few times. But the information on Kick Pickler doesn't stop at showing photos of her singing in front of a crowd, it goes on to make OTHER, non-verifiable nameless quotes that are more than likely made up.  If the information listed on Kick Pickler (the quotes and allegations that she's playing up her accent etc) are printed by a newspaper, on television, etc. with real sources, then it should be included.  As the article stands now, there IS mention of the discrepency between her singing history, notice the line "Pickler won the "Miss Stanly County" pageant at age 17 and subsequently competed for Miss North Carolina 2004. In 2005, she made an appearance on WSOCTV's Gimme the Mic! contest and took second place.[3]"  Additionally, showing her singing isn't "evidentiary sound proof" that her whole persona on the show is an act, the claim on Kick Pickler is that she's playing up her roots, that she's basically invented this whole other person just to win a contest.  It very well may be true, but it's not been reported by a reputable source.  What is this, Law & Order? Admissible in court?  What are you talking about?  Sign your comment next time.  Wikipedia is not in the habit of printing unsubtantiated rumors, which is what 90% of Kick Pickler is. Batman2005 04:25, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Well, they referenced the fact that people are doubting Pickler's on-screen persona on the show last night. The article really should include this controversy. It does not strain our verifiability policy to say that certain websites have alleged that Pickler is putting on an act. That's verifiable information, even if the claims themselves are not. — BrianSmithson 19:34, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
 * The article does reference it. It acknowledges the conversation Seacrest had with her last night that you are referring to. That is enough for now. As far as the websites you mention, those are fan websites, just like any other fan website, they are not credible sources by any means, and therefore have no reason to be referenced here. SteveJ2006 23:49, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
 * The article talks about her ditzy persona, but it doesn't say anything about the fact that people are saying she's putting on an act. And I'm not saying we should list votefortheworst or kickpickler in the External Links section. I'm saying that these sites have made claims that have gotten enough attention that they were mentioned on the show. We shouldn't be burying this, not when the show itself has addressed the issue. — BrianSmithson 02:56, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I think a good rule to go by here is that when these allegations or rumors of putting on an act are printed by a serious news organization, with sources that are actually named (unlike kickpickler and votefortheworst) then it should be included. My complete unbiased opinion is that they way it's worded now is good enough for me. Batman2005 04:07, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
 * Is the show itself not a serious source? I think you are assuming that I want t print the allegations in lurid detail, but I just want to mention that there is a controversy. Like I said, the allegations are not supported by reputable sources, but the fact that allegations are being made is. This has become relevant enough in the opinions of the AI producers that they had Seacrest address it on the show. I've added a line about the controversy that doesn't say it's true but doesn't try to hide it, either. I hope this is a reasonable compromise. — BrianSmithson 14:21, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
 * The difference is that the show does not make unfounded rumors or create speculation the way that votefortheworst and kickpickler do. The show merely asked if she was putting on an act, she said no.  Which should be end of debate about the act nonsense, until a reputable source from Kellie's past comes forth with solid proof that is printed in a reputable news venue.  I think the line you've added is good, i think i would add 'one website making such unsourced claims' so that new readers don't look at votefortheworst and think "oh wow, this is true." Batman2005 20:05, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I have left up the sentence BrianSmithson added, but I have removed the link to votefortheworst once again. I agree that this issue should be addressed since it was brought up on the show, but what is there now should be sufficient. Since the show did not mention any specific websites, it should not be necessary to name and link to the specific sites here, especially since those sites are not credible sources by any means. Anyone can start a blog site and make claims about a contestant. The article as it is now, makes reference that this line of thought exists, and that the show has addressed it, and we should leave it at that for now, unless further developments deem it necessary to change it. SteveJ2006 13:50, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

[Unindenting for ease of reading.] Works for me. — BrianSmithson 15:09, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
 * The way they mentioned it on the show was about as "softball" a manner as possible; just vaguely hinting at there being some question about whether she's just putting up an act, and then having her deny it, without really getting into the specifics or mentioning that she's actually been caught in at least one lie: saying she's only sung in the shower before while she has actually appeared in various singing competitions. *Dan T.* 18:34, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I think what I would say to that is that it's TV. How do we know that what she really said was "i've only ever sung in the shower and a couple competitions" but that part was edited out in an effort to make good television?  I take the entire show with a grain of salt.  I mean, if they don't even release the voting results, how do we know they even count for anything?  The answer is...it's television, and we don't. Batman2005 00:16, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
 * I'm actually a fan of mentioning it, but NOT linking the website. By linking the website we've giving some credibility to the claims by linking them to a factual article about the subject.  Good work Steve. Batman2005 17:49, 7 April 2006 (UTC)

Gwen Stacy
You kinda gotta know about Spider-Man to understand this but, is it just me, or does Kellie Pickler look alot like Ultimate Gwen Stacy?
 * Yep, but Kellie looks more mature--hottie 15:26, 16 April 2006 (UTC)


 * ULTIMATE Gwen Stacy? Picture  206.72.25.210 (talk) 02:25, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

Auditions
Does anyone know how the judges voted for her in the auditions? Was it unanimous? Cheesehead Fan 01:42, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
 * The Greensboro, NC auditions? All three judges said "yes."  If you were talking about the final auditions for the semi-final rounds to be voted on by the viewership, the show itself doesn't say, although my impression from the judges' reactions was that it was unanimous.  (Paula said "You made it through," and then Simon and Randy each echoed "you are through.") --AlphaEtaPi 07:22, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

Wording of the Article
In the American Idol section it says, "On April 19, Pickler and contestant Taylor Hicks became the only contestants among the rest of the Top 6 to never be in the bottom 3."

There is no way to know for sure if Taylor Hicks was in the the bottom three the week that Kellie was eliminated, because they only announced the bottom 2. I would correct it, but I am unsure on how to reword it. Tennis Dynamite 23:57, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
 * That sentence is referring to the fact that as of that date, April 19, both Kellie Pickler and Taylor Hicks had never been in the bottom three. Obviously that no longer holds true for Kellie, as she has been eliminated, and whether or not Taylor was in the bottom three or not last week doesn't change the fact that as of the previous week, they were the only two that hadn't. SteveJ2006 03:23, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

Television Appearances and Post Idol sections
The information contained in these two sections is pretty much the same information. Do we really need this info twice? SteveJ2006 21:28, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

"Post Idol" is meant to be an essay of significant events and facts about Kellie after American Idol, so it may or may not mention facts other sections. But please include references to statements. Kellie rocks!!!!!!!

"Television Appearances" is a list of significant appearances on TV like live performances, publicity appearances, guestings, etc. This section is needed. I suggest this section be converted in a tabular format having columns like; "Date," "Show," "Details." And possibly the ability to hide/show the table. The table should be hidden by default, if possible. This way, succeeding appearances will be added on top of the list thereby organizing the list from most recent to old events.

So if anyone have plenty of time to do this small project, that would be awesome.Verbatim101 2:16, 27 Nov 2006 (UTC)

Should we put her performance on Idol Season 6 on the Post Idol section or the Idol Appearances section?

Mark McGarry
Is there a source that says she is dating this guy? Oh yeah, go to news.google.com and google his name. See what comes up. I hope she's not dating this particular Mark McGarry.--Nmajdan 00:26, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

No...I've seen no source of kellie dating Mark McGarry, and I doubt she'd date THIS Mark McGarry.

Edit comment re: fansites
The comment was "(rv, its still ok to list one fansite on this page as per WP:EL, doesn't really matter if its on the sirlinksalot page, we can still list one here)."

The exact line from the style guide linked above it is as follows: ''Fan sites: On articles about topics with many fansites, including a link to one major fansite is appropriate, marking the link as such. In extreme cases, a link to a web directory of fansites can replace this link. (Note: fanlistings are generally not informative and should not ordinarily be included.)''

My edit was based on what I bolded, however I guess it can still be left open for interpretation.--NMajdan •talk 14:07, 20 June 2006 (UTC)


 * I edited that one, i think its still prudent to list one fansite on these article, for those fairweather fans who want to see photos or read a biography, etc. It's more convenient for them to just click one link than go through a drawn out process. Batman2005 02:05, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

Ethnicity
I just found out that part of her ethnicity is German American. Apparently her (paternal) ancestors migrated to Stanly County, NC in the 1880s. Not sure what source to cite, or what is considered reliable or not. Pink moon 1287 21:36, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

Post Idol section
Stop vandalizing! Why do you people keep posting statements that are uncorroborated? If you claim it as such please by all means provide link to any documentation from credible sources that will prove your claims. Otherwwise, remove it! MegNC 10:40, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

Should we put her performance on Idol Season 6 on the Post Idol section or the Idol Appearances section?


 * I put in a documented fact, that Pickler appears TWICE in the worst all time Idol performances appearing on the AOL television page, complete with a link and a day later it's gone.


 * Why don't you acknowledge that this is just a thinly veiled fanboy site and leave it at that?

Wulfe 23:12, 19 April 2007 (UTC)Wulfe

"her son"
'' Pickler was raised by her grandfather, Clyde Pickler Sr., who worked as an electrician, and her grandmother, Faye Pickler, until her grandmother's death in January 2002. She continued to live with her grandfather and her son Eric until she became a contestant on Idol.''

That sounds to me that Kellie herself has a son... is this true? I thought her brother's name is Eric? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 130.189.15.61 (talk) 19:58, 30 January 2007 (UTC).


 * Somebody seems to want to keep inserting an alleged "fact" that she got pregnant as a teenager and had a son, but as far as I know that's entirely false. *Dan T.* 20:39, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

On Wikepidia the quote says that she "continued to live with her grandfather and her younger sibling, Eric..." got someone out there who loves gossip by the sound of things. Lynne 24.62.247.188 22:01, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

I saw her on extreme makeover. I have to say the little boy sure seems more like a son than a brother. It was my first thought. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.113.43.187 (talk) 03:14, 27 January 2010 (UTC)

Plastic Surgery
Is there a source on the "enlarged breasts" comment concerning her American Idol appearance on March 1st? Also, if there is, it appears in the wrong spot in the article, as later in the article on her recent visit to the show is reported. 66.31.169.12 21:03, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

Is there any support for the assertion that her breasts looked larger in her season six appearance???

I don't believe it was ever confirmed. Kellie said she likes to be the center of attention and wants it to remain a mystery so she was neither going to deny or verify whether this rumor was true. 66.82.9.107 (talk) 16:01, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

Constructive Participation : DON'T JUST DELETE AND DO NOTHING!
Wiki members who actually cares what's on it try hard to keep articles updated and accurate. And there are others who just browse thru articles and remove sections without even attempting to correct or make things right. If you think you have a better way of presenting entries, apply them. DON'T JUST DELETE AND DO NOTHING! Some of us actually cares what's published. Verbatim101 12:01, 27 June 2007 (UTC)

a line in the section of her personal life needs updating
"Pickler is currently in a relationship Nashville Predators player Jordin Tootoo.[11] Pickler visited Tootoo's hometown in Canada early summer of 2007 where she was introduced to his parents and then tried traditional Inuit foods like raw caribou and whale blubber."

needs to be changed to

"Pickler was in a relationship Nashville Predators player Jordin Tootoo [11]until late September 2007. Pickler visited Tootoo's hometown in Canada early summer of 2007 where she was introduced to his parents and then tried traditional Inuit foods like raw caribou and whale blubber. She performed a new song for the first time at Warren, MI 50th Birthday Bash on September 22, 2007 announcing that she had broken up with Mr. Tootoo the night before for cheating on her saying she would rather much be a Pickler than a Tootoo anyway.[71]"

71. from Kelly Pickler herself during her performance at the Warren Civic Center for Warren, MI's 50th Birthday Bash in which she performed a free concert for the citizens of Warren, MI sponsor by the big 3 automakers and local area businesses. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JChapoton (talk • contribs) 04:00, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

article edit tab
Any reason the main article add/edit tab is missing? I see it on other articles, and this article does not state that additions and modifications are currently prohibited. 65.119.217.2 13:57, 16 November 2007 (UTC)WikiPaul I now understand that this article can be edited by registered users, but unregistered users [as I still am] are not allowed to modify its content since it has been prone to vandalism recently. 65.119.217.2 15:49, 16 November 2007 (UTC)WikiPaul

Robertmackie (talk) 04:50, 22 January 2008 (UTC) I noticed the same thing. I don't have time to play around and see if it's my account or the article. The article needs an edit. There is text that says "his father". In English, the possessive adjective agrees with the possessor, not the possessed. So while "father" is masculine, Kellie Pickler gives all the signs of being feminine. Since we are referring to the father of a woman, we must say "her father", not "his father". If someone has the ability to update this page, they could help Kellie avoid being taken for something we hope she is not.

Fansite
This page has way too much cruft on it -- too many anal-retentive details that are just plain unencyclopedic. We don't need to know that she was Miss Stanley County, or that she considers herself smart, blah blah blah... Ten Pound Hammer • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 01:09, 23 November 2007 (UTC)

Are you smarter than a 5th Grader?
Kellie was recently on the show and, dare I say it, acted like a moron. I think it was stupid enough for it to be mentioned in her biography. She didn't know Europe was a continent and thought the capital of France was Budap h est. Even though she didn't think France was a country. Yay or Nay? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.249.153.24 (talk • contribs)


 * Nay. Ice Cold Beer 23:09, 30 November 2007 (UTC)


 * this definitely needs to go into her profile.


 * Considering this is quickly turning into an instant internet classic... It should probably be mentioned. (Djungelurban 23:59, 1 December 2007 (UTC))

stupid people like this don't deserve to be famous.... this is seriously a shame, i cringed when i saw that video.

Not significant enough for a the biography but should be mentioned in the TV appearances (as it currently is). Anyone agree? Soonercary 04:15, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

Definitely deserves mention in the article. 68.226.151.32 18:05, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Definitely deserves a mention under something... HawkShark (talk) 07:32, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

Yes, this should be in there. Oddibe (talk) 14:57, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

Some comedy bit from a comedy game show deserves a huge detailed paragraph? Since f-ing when?????? Yet I don't see one mention of the brilliant performance she did at the CMA's where even Entertainer Of The Year Kenny Chesney said she was the highlight of the night. I suggest some changes be made around here before I really get nasty. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.37.120.245 (talk) 05:00, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Well, thats really mature. 90% of the article is about her music career, theres no reason for this not to be there. It became an internet meme, and shows a part of her (lack of intelligence) that isn't shown by an article just praising her music career. People deserve to know these things about a person, not just their accomplishments. 68.226.151.32 (talk) 22:31, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

Hilarious. Just for the record, some samples if someone would have missed: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juOQhTuzDQ0 I'd include URL in references section but I see she's kind of idol over there, which is funny, but I respect our US editors' feelings, so only inlcude it here. (It definitely seems to be important fact about this person.) --grin &#9998; 10:13, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

People deserve to know what things, that Kellie has a lack of intelligence, or that she just happens to be a comedienne. Funny I don't hear any mention of her being a comedienne on here. Why is that? It's not like she didn't do 2 comedy bits for Jay Leno, although you wouldn't know that by the info given here as the MTV Red Carpet interviews isn't even listed. Since when is it considered a lack of intelligence for a comedienne to do comedy. Much of comedy is based on lack of intelligence so what makes this comedy bit anymore special than the others. Because it got alot of view hits? So did her other 5th Grader videos, and for the same reasons, so why not list all of them. And while were at it, her CMA performance recieved a huge amount of hits bringing it into youtubes Top 10 most searched, so why isn't it listed for this reason. The CMA video was also picked up and played on a country music station because of it's popularity.

How could displaying a serious lack of knowledge in elementary geography be considered comedy? It isn't funny, it is very sad indeed. Or are you implying that she was merely putting on an act, and did in fact know that Europe is a continent, France is a country and Budapest is the capital of Hungary? In that case she doesn't have a sense of humour. Very handy for a "comedienne." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.182.157.149 (talk) 03:03, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

This one comedy bit deserves no more special treatment than the others I listed, just as it doesn't over the CMA performance. I'll repeat it again, somebody better correct this BS, or its going to hit the fan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.117.204.90 (talk) 08:13, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Importance?
Of this fact: 'While in Nunavut, Pickler ate raw caribou, whale blubber, and ketchup chips.' I'm leaving it because I don't want to be the person to take out that piece of encyclopedia gold. K1da42 (talk) 16:43, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

Bot report : Found duplicate references !
In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :) DumZiBoT (talk) 19:50, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
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Birth Place
Several different sources list Louisiana as her place of birth (AMG - which in turn shows up in MTV and AOL bios - plus Fox News, and The Insider), but according to her wikipedia article (in concurrence with her own website), she was born in North Carolina. This forum: (url blacklisted - www.kelliepicklerforum.com/earlydays.html cf www.kelliepicklerforum.com/biography.html) seems to be in conflict with itself. Does anyone have the final word on this? Maher-shalal-hashbaz (talk) 20:34, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

"What's a ballsy?"
She really can't be that stupid....can she???

Not everyone knows trash slang sir. Even I have no clue what ballsy is, whether it means someone guttsy or in reference to male anatomy I don't know. But I'm quite sure you are clueless about some slangs other people know too. - Pete (8/23/06) — Preceding undated comment added 8-23-2006

Bye, Bye Pickler
There was a little controversy about Kellie being eliminated. Not as big as Chris Daughtry. But there were several petitions started. So I think we should keep that on the article.

Main Picture
Shouldn't that pic be changed? It's from American Idol and she's already releasing her CD plus her single is already playing on the radio. This should be the new pic: http://www.k-pickler.com/gallery/albums/userpics/10001/normal_kp_field2.jpg

Industry-related Websites
When it comes to industry-related websites, BNA Entertainment; Pickler's record label, will suffice. It's not necessary to list artist pages of other media website like CMT. That will preclude addition of others like VH1, MTV, CMA, News media sites etc. An exception would be 19 Entertainment, if that happens, them being partners of her record deal. As of this post, her official site is the one at BNA Records. Thank you. Verbatim101 03:22, November 1 2006 (UTC)

Website is confirmed in her "Small Town Girl" CD inside flap. Credit goes to 74.138.0.210 for first posting the site. Verbatim101 05:46PM, November 1 2006 (UTC)

2007 Tour
Kellie did mention about her tour next year on US99.5 FM radio station in Chicago on Halloween. Can anyone put a reference link to official publication showing tour schedule and date of ticket sale? Verbatim101 10:22, November 3 2006 (UTC)

Album Sales & Ranking
Gold status is 500,000 units sold (US). Kellie has not reached that yet. Please add cite or remove claim. Verbatim101 02:51, January 4 2007 (UTC)

platinum?
Are you sure the album has been certified platinum. The box also says that 700,000 have been shipped. So if that is true the album can't be platinum. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Seth71 (talk • contribs) 13:42, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

Edit request from 174.111.66.123, 9 November 2010
Kellie revealed on 11/8/2010 through a twitter reply to a fan's question, that her third studio album will be released in the early spring of 2011.

174.111.66.123 (talk) 04:18, 9 November 2010 (UTC) Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Generally speaking, Twitter feeds are not considered reliable enough for including information of this type. Furthermore, since this is only about a hypothetical release, and it's far in the future, many things could change between now and then. It's better to wait until the release 1) has a name, and 2) is confirmed by a reliable source. Qwyrxian (talk) 07:13, 9 November 2010 (UTC)

Incorrect Link on Frank Lidell
Frank Lidell links to wrong person (different Frank Lidell). Correct person should be the producer mentioned here:

http://www.bmusic.com.au/links/industry/archives/ararchiv/flidell.html

http://www.carnivalmusic.net/tag/frank-liddell/

Tedpennington (talk) 04:12, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Television Appearance
This section needs to be updated. The last noted TV appearance is from over 2 years ago, surely she has had more since then. I would actually propose getting rid of the section altogether. I've never seen any other celebrity's page that painstakingly attempted to list every last talk show, red carpet, award show, sporting event, etc. appearance that they made. MarkMc1990 (talk) 07:55, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * Agreed and removed as it seems like just a huge pointless table. --Jnorton7558 (talk) 08:26, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
 * I concur with this removal. If one or more appearances were somehow particularly notable, and covered in outside sources, they could be listed or discussed separately. Qwyrxian (talk) 08:31, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

Edit Request
Could someone add that Kelli Pickler shaved her head in support of breast cancer and her friend who is starting chemo? Perhaps under Personal Life. Source http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/kellie-pickler-shaves-head-support-cancer-stricken-best-friend-summer-holt-miller-article-1.1152412  Thanks 68.225.205.146 (talk) 23:37, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Manual of Style
Why the need to capitalize these words? None of them are proper nouns or names; capitalizing non-proper nouns/names is usually against Manual of Style and I can't see why these would be exempt.

Making some attempt at dispute resolution, although I don't have any confidence of a discussion here going anywhere since Walkerjoh15 has ignored all messages on their talk page about this. Acalamari 08:29, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Over two weeks on, I'm disappointed that my attempts at discussion have been ignored and the article has had to be semi-protected (with Walkerjoh15 still edit-warring against consensus/Manual of Style through the protection). Acalamari 09:08, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Don't feel bad--I think it's very likely that the user doesn't understand what's happening. I've reblocked the user for a week; the next time will be indefinite, and I will continue to semi-protect the article as necessary. Qwyrxian (talk) 10:23, 16 May 2013 (UTC)

Stupidity
There has been a lot of discussion of her persona, and whether her apparent stupidity is real or a stunt. As this defines her public image, I suggest that there should be a section on the topic.203.184.41.226 (talk) 07:13, 27 July 2013 (UTC)

France/Europe
The 'Are You Smarter Than a 5th Grader' section attempts to establish Pickler's apparent ignorance, but imo the most embarrassing facts have been omitted. After being asked the question, Picker's initial response was "This might be a stupid question, but like, I thought Europe was a country." She then mentioned that she had never heard of Budapest but "I know they speak French there. Like I wanna say...is France a country?" After electing to "copy" her answer from her 5th grade teammate, the host asked her what her guess would have been, to which she replied "I don't think France is a country but I would have said that, I don't know." This all took place before the answer was revealed and she made her Hungary/Turkey remark (which was actually relatively clever). If we intend to mention her educational shortcomings let's not have a scrubbed, sanitized version of events. A copy of the question can be seen on YouTube entitled "Can she be THAT stupid?" in case verification is needed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.107.12.241 (talk) 19:03, 3 August 2013 (UTC)

Eloped
Why does the article say that she eloped in a ceremony? She eloped and was then married in a ceremony!203.184.41.226 (talk) 07:14, 27 July 2013 (UTC)


 * ✅ Fixed. Thanks. --Musdan77 (talk) 04:08, 5 August 2013 (UTC)

Veggie Tales
Nothing about her starring role in the "Beauty and the Beet"(2014) episode of Veggie Tales?? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_VeggieTales_Episodes#Beauty_and_the_Beet_.282014.29 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.56.79.185 (talk) 18:48, 8 July 2015 (UTC)

Are you smarter than a fifth grader?
Was her appearance in this show genuine? I have seen the video, and cannot believe that she is legitimately that ignorant and unintelligent. Was her bewildered question just a stunt?Royalcourtier (talk) 04:23, 22 August 2015 (UTC)

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