Talk:Kenny Everett/Archive 1

Angry Of Mayfair's clothing
The article doesn't really explain the joke properly. Angry Of Mayfair would moralise directly to the camera/audience but was actually a transvestite (so a hypocrite obviously). The joke wasn't that also part of his posh suit was missing (revealing him to be a transvestite), the missing cloth was the only way to instantly reveal to the audience that secretly he was one. It as if he was walking around in a complete suit and only we at home knew the truth about him - what he was wearing underneath it. This was demonstrated by how the sketches always unfolded, only right at the end did he turn his back to the camera (which revealed the bra etc that he was wearing). A real moraliser who was secretly a transvestite wouldn't cut half of their suit away like that nor turn their back to anyone they were preaching to, knowing that doing so would instantly reveal them to be a fraud once any cutaway section at the back of suit revealed the truth. In the `universe' he inhabited the suit was complete and so there was a good chance he could convince people of what he was saying - only in the audience `alternative dimension' was part of the suit missing and so his argument was always completely destroyed right at the end when he turned his back. The subversive aim was to make the audience question the credibility of other moralisers - were they just frauds too but in a way which wasn't obvious to anyone hearing them speak because they were somehow hiding that hypocrisy?

(The character predates PM John Major's Back To Basics campaign, but was very predictive of it - Stephen Milligan MP etc - suggesting a previously very strong insight by Everett on such matters such as public moralisers) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr gobrien (talk • contribs) 18:34, 15 November 2017 (UTC)

Freddie Mercury's partner
I saw the following remark and I am pretty sure it isn't true. I tried to find the reference on www.kennyeverett.com (site ) but couldn't find it. I think it should be removed:

Everett had been told in 1989 that he had HIV. It is believed he caught it from Freddie Mercury's partner,with whom he'd also had a relationship. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Óli Gneisti (talk • contribs) 22:05, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

Re: Freddie Mercury's partner
Well talk, I do not know if they had an affair anyways. They probably were just friends just because they had gay personalities. -Comment added by Benjamin908 (talk) • (contribs), 15:36, 20 November, 2011 (GMT)

Comment
I believe many of the characters were developed for the BBC show after Everett left ITV. Gizzard Puke certainly was. And to describe the BBC series as "watered down" is a bit much. The ITV show had Kenny doing solo pieces to camera which were often quite funny (you can hear the crew laughing in the background), but the BBC show was a fully-fledged comedy half-hour with sketches and guest stars (including Billy Connolly, Terry Wogan, Lionel Blair and Joanna Lumley) and a studio audience. --Lee M


 * It's a question of personal taste. I still prefer the original Thames series as I remember after he moved to the Beeb the programmes DID seem a bit 'watered down'. They were still good, but the spontaneity seemed to have gone. In the Thames series, the reaction of the studio crew was quite obvious and audible and their genuine laughter was contagious. The BBC series weren't (IMHO) great shows, but the Thames ones were, as you never knew quite what he was going to do next. I suspect the Kenny and his writers had a lot more freedom at Thames than they did at the Beeb. I also think Thames let Kenny be himself far more than the BBC did.


 * Having said that, I was around fifteen when the Thames series was on (1978-ish), so perhaps that had something to do with it.


 * Poor old Kenny - sadly missed, along with people like Benny Hill, who gave millions of people such great and harmless fun and entertainment. They probably wouldn't get jobs nowadays, or more likely, they'd end up getting eased out by the media shuysters that run TV and radio these days. Luckily for me their 'improvements' have removed any need for me to have either a TV or radio, so they can continue to make it all as crap as they like.


 * ... I still remember Hot Gossip though...  ... Nurse!, nurse!, the screens!, THE SCREENS! ... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.112.68.219 (talk) 21:41, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

re: watered down
the writeup refers to the watering down of an aspect of his comedy, not the overall quality. i think it's fair to say that the corporation formalised the show in ways that thames never would have. on itv, it really was ken's show, on bbc, it's a bbc show - even though compared to other artists ken at the bbc had a lot of creative freedom. srck

Was he really a gay rights activist?
Quoting the current version: ''Though an active campaigner for gay rights ("I...FOUGHT...for people like you", he once told David Bowie, "And I never got one!"), this side of his personality was something he seems never to have fully come to terms with, and he suffered bouts of severe depression. He died of an AIDS-related illness in 1995.''

I heard that Everett was outed by a newspaper and was rather upset that his sexuality had been made public. In what way was he an active campaigner for gay rights? Inthepink 20:20, 10 September 2005 (UTC)


 * I never heard of Everett being an active campaigner for gay rights. He was fairly closeted for most of his life (not to mention a Tory supporter who were a blatantly homophobic party in the 1980s). Unless there is some solid evidence and a reputable source added, the claim he was an active gay rights campaigner should be removed.79.66.9.3 (talk) 02:18, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

re Quotes and Catchphrases
wrt the "My body is my tool." quote, I think this was from one of Rowan Atkinson's characters in Not the Nine O'Clock News ("I am a mime. My body is my tool"). I dont think Maurice Minor ever said anything. BD, 26 October 2005

I just came to the discussion page to commonet on that very point. The 'My Body is my tool' phrase was used by Rowan Atkinson in a one off mime character for a Not the Nine O'Clock News and was NEVER used by Kenny Everett. I cant remember much about Everett's mime character other that it was wholly silent. I also have vague recollections of the character painting either on white board or glass and using camera cuts to replace them painting with an image that could be used as the real thing. Am illustration of this type of gag (not that I remember him doing this specific one) would be to draw a hole and jumping in to it or drawing a door then walk through it.

Now that 2 of us independently agree the statement is incorrect, I will delete it.

Dondilly 01:03, 19 November 2005 (UTC)

Thirded --- Morris Minor never spoke. Got the tape to prove it.

srck 17.36, 15 Dec 2005 GMT

I'm absolutely certain that the character's name was "Maurice Mimer".

PB, 3/7/08

Cupid Stunt's "Movie" Career
Cupid Stunt was supposed to be an (unstated) porn actress - that's why in her interviews with a cardboard-cutout Michael Parkinson on recounting her latest movie she would invariably say something like: "then suddenly Michael, all our clothes fall off!"

The porn aspect was never openly stated, possibly for reasons of libel/slander, as I distinctly remember Burt Reynolds' name being mentioned in some of her lurid descriptions.

Being a porn actress is also why she would usually end the summary of her latest film with "ah!, but Michael!, I'm telling you the plot!!" - that was part of the joke - they were porn movies and there was no plot! Ian Dunster 17:09, 27 November 2005 (UTC)


 * Was Burt Reynolds actually mentioned by name? My (somewhat fading) memory recalls her regularly referring to her leading man, "Burt", with the inference being that it was Burt Reynolds - I don't recall her specifying that it was actually Burt Reynolds (there weren't many "Burts" in Hollywood at that time...) Paul-b4 09:07, 11 April 2007 (UTC)


 * She was never meant to be a porn actress, she was meant as a parody of "Hollywood glamour" and was a lurid B-movie star who allegedly made crap films that were supposed to have starred Burt Reynolds, John Travolta, Stallone, and other "virile" stars of the era.79.66.9.3 (talk) 02:21, 22 January 2009 (UTC)


 * There's a clip of Cupid (Kenny) on a 1982 Parkinson show (this time with a REAL Michael Parkinson) on YouTube here:  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.4.57.101 (talk) 20:39, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Cupid's movie career
With the greatest of respect to my fellow reviewer, Cupid was not a porn actress, unstated or otherwise. She was a poor B-movie sex comedy "Russ Meyer"-style performer, hence the "all our clothes fall off". The facts he quotes, whilst technically accurate, are being taken to a logical extreme, rather than their proper contextual conclusion. To parallel the real world, Cupid would most likely have played one of the glamour girls in "The Cannonball Run".

Kenny Everett never lampooned pornography, whereas he did lampoon the British attitude towards sex and it's outworkings (ANYTHING featuring Cleo Rocos in few clothes, for example), and Cupid was another facet of this satire.

Burt Reynolds was not the only high profile celebrity mentioned during her interviews, I have the recordings off-air intact still, and there are plenty of others mentioned.

Also, would Michael Parkinson ever interview a porn actress?

With this in mind, I will change the "porn-movie actress" back to "B-movie actress".

srck 17.35 15 Dec 2005 GMT


 * Actually, Barry Cryer, one of the show's writers, has referred to Cupid being a porn actress when speaking of Kenny Everett in interviews at least once in my hearing. Also, as I mentioned in my post above, Cupid's 'interviews' with Michael Parkinson were with a lifesize cardboard cut-out of him - I'm not sure which of the programmes they were in though, ITV or BBC. Ian Dunster 20:09, 28 December 2005 (UTC)


 * Cryer's reference to Cupid as a porn actress was a flip comment in the ITV retrospective Unforgettable..., but was more of summation than identification. My cursory scan of the episodes shows that Cupid appeared twice in every episode of series one on the BBC (she was not present under Thames) which aired February-April 1982, barring episode 8 and the Christmas special where she appeared only once.  It is worth noting that the second Cupid segment of episode 7 features Michael Winner inviting her to appear in his movies, which points away from her being a pornographic performer in the true sense.  And yes, of course it was a cardboard cut-out of Michael Parkinson, that doesn't alter the direction of the satire though. srck 0748, 29 December 2005 GMT

my understanding was that Everett was more than a "good friend" of freddy mercury - they were lovers. But there's no mention of that either to confirm or deny it. I guess it should at least be denied if it is not true; lots of people think it is the case 66.32.83.202 18:37, 13 January 2006 (UTC)


 * That's just speculation. In fact, its just gossip and should not be included in the article unless it is confirmed by a reliable source. Since they're both dead now, I doubt it will be easy to find one. 79.66.9.3 (talk) 02:24, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Re: Dave Cash
The article says "From 1974 to 1980 he presented the station's breakfast show alongside Dave Cash" which is wrong. The Kenny And Cash Breakfast Show (which emulated their show on Radio London) only lasted about a year before Dave went off to present "Afternoon Delight" from 3 to 6p.m. every weekday leaving KE as the sole jock on the morning show.

Steve Williams Feb 2006

Clinical Depression?
I removed the Category:People diagnosed with clinical depression.

There is no factual evidence, merely opinion.


 * Michael David 00:01, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

In his autobiography, The Custard Stops at Hatfield (pages 138 through 144 in the paperback version) he describes in detail about what he calls a "suicide bid-ette" and uses the word depression. He blames this incident on overuse of the sleeping pill Mandrax and the pressures of doing an early morning radio show while having taste for partying late. So you are probably right that the modern term "clinical depression" may not be strictly accurate, but if one were to delve back into newspaper stories (he says he was hounded by reporters) I think that description might be justified.Kkuchenb (talk) 00:36, 29 November 2007 (UTC)


 * Again though, it does not mean he was actually DIAGNOSED with clinical depression. Everyone feels "depression" at some point in their lives, but it doesn't mean they have been diagnosed with clinical depression. The only way that can be proven for inclusion in the article is if a relibale source can be found (which could now only be done via his medical records, and we're not likely yo get those). Otherwise, it is merely an assumption. 79.66.9.3 (talk) 02:29, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Death from AIDS
I was under the impression that Everett contracted AIDS from the same Russian chap who gave it to Freddie Mecury? Anyone else have a better idea? Seems worthy of a mention perhaps as Mercury stared on his show as a parodie once or twice. WikipedianProlific(Talk) 23:27, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

Anecdotally, yeah, I have seen friends of theirs say they were all shagging in that basement of Xenon or sthg. But this isn't a very encyclopaedic thing to put in an article.

Your ramblings belong in HEAT magazine not here. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.150.220.200 (talk) 22:25, 8 January 2008 (UTC)

In the documentary When Freddie Mercury met Kenny Everett Everett's ex-wife said she's in no doubt that it was that ex-Red Army soldier but who knows for certain? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.41.84.95 (talk) 01:19, 11 February 2013 (UTC)

Sequence of events with the Beatles
The sequence of events with the Beatles can't be right; Sgt Pepper was recorded and released in 1967 after the Beatles finished touring, so he couldn't subsequently accompany them in 1966. Apepper 22:49, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

The Beeb
Everett also coined the term 'Beeb' to refer to the BBC

We really need a reliable source for this assertion, which is also stated as fact at BBC. The earliest citation in the Oxford English Dictionary is from Marghanita Laski in 1967 (when Kenny Everett had hardly arrived at the BBC) who says that "My daughter, who works in the B.B.C., always calls it so". It seems much more likely that Kenny Everett popularised an existing in term by using it on the air. Flapdragon 20:27, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

I cannot beliecve this to be true. Milligan and the Goons were using the term "Beeb" (normally in "the BEEB BEEB CEEB") years before. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 136.153.2.2 (talk) 07:01, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Kremmen
No mention of the album "Kremmen of the Star Corps" (from my memory). I bought it and want to replace it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.7.69.214 (talk) 13:09, 5 April 2007 (UTC).

Location of Filming
With regards to the filming of "the Kenny Everet Video Show" for Thames Television, it should be pointed out that it was all shot in Studio 2 at Teddington as appose to Euston (as stated in the article) with some of the larger hot gossip routines being shot in Studio 1.
 * I have no verifable sources but was informed by former Thames employees that the Video Show/Cassette series were taped in Teddington, and were eagerly anticipated by all staff. A couple of off-set shots from these series appear to concur with the general topography of the current studio layout (was there for a taping not so long ago), but hardly an encyclopedic analysis! Srck (talk) 14:59, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Death
I added some details to the Death section on Kenny's article and removd the expansion tag. I'm fairly new to editing so I haven't cited and references but will try.

Adlen (talk) 09:45, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

Dates: Marriage, Coming Out
Kenny Everett's autobiography, The Custard Stops at Hatfield says he was married to Lee in 1969 (in a photo caption; there aren't a lot of dates within the text of the book). I had a look at IMDb and it says married in 1966, separated in 1979 so I didn't change the date, but I wonder if it is right in this page. Maybe the info came from IMDb, which isn't always 100% accurate. Also, Custard was published in 1982 and it makes no mention of his being gay or even that he and Lee had separated, so I wonder if he came out to friends and family while trying to maintain a straight public persona. I didn't make any changes to the page because Custard doesn't seem to be a very a reliable source regarding his personal life, but I wonder if others have any reliable citation material. Kkuchenb (talk) 23:58, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Hmm... I don't think he had a straight persona per se - He didn't shout about his sexuality until later in life but I don't recall it being a secret. As for the marriage date I suspect that a search of the registers of Births Marriages and Deaths for Maurice Cole and Lee Alkin should reveal the date. (Although sometimes her name is given as 'Alkins'.DavidFarmbrough (talk) 10:13, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * My recollection is that his sexuality wasn't a subject in the public domain until he was diagnosed with AIDs, it may not have been a secret, but it wasn't widely publicised. Mighty Antar (talk) 18:45, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes, my recollection when Kenny Everett died is that it was a not-terribly-surprising secret, as with his close friend Freddie Mercury. But still, the dates in this topic don't jibe, as far as I can see. Do the British registers have info about legal separation?Kkuchenb (talk) 04:19, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Regular guest spots
Surely some mention should be made of Kenny's regular guest slots? "If It's Wednesday It Must Be..." on Radio 4 (http://www.vivarchive.org.uk/articles/articlekettering.htm) drifts immediately to mind. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.102.157.139 (talk) 12:49, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

"Pre-MTV" music & sketch assertion
There's a section which says "this mixture of pop bands and comic sketches was a new format for television" referring to events in 1978. Surely this isn't correct? My memory is rubbish but music and sketch shows had been going for years? I'm going to remove it.... Srck (talk) 14:51, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Maurice Mimer's music
Not the work of Wendy Carlos (other people had the idea of electronic versions of famous classical music) but "Fredericus Rex Favourite" by Sam Spence, available on his LP Fantastic Sounds. Sam Blacketer (talk) 23:40, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Availability on DVD
Why isn't the Kenny Everett Video Show available on DVD? I remember it being the highspot of my family's viewing every week, and he had some fantastic music guests - right at the height of punk/new wave. I'm sure if they were on DVD there'd be a huge potential audience for people who are similarly nostalgic like me - so why aren't they? Some sort of legal problem? 86.133.48.23 (talk) 19:37, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Morning Zoo
is there a morning zoo connection here? I don't have any references, but perhaps Kenny was an influence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.118.173.120 (talk) 17:31, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

Coming out as gay
The article claims Kenny Everett "came out" as gay in 1993. I am listening to Desert Island Discs from 14th May 1991 and Sue Lawley's opening informs us that Everett had already come out as a "homosexual", to use her expression. This can be confirmed by anyone with a recording of the 1991 programme, including (I'd imagine) the BBC. The citation used for the 1993 date is very poor. Guv2006 (talk) 16:39, 17 March 2011 (UTC)


 * The existing citation notes that Everett went public in 1993 with his status as HIV-positive. I agree that your reference to Sue Lawley's introduction is good enough to move his coming out to 1991. Binksternet (talk) 17:11, 17 March 2011 (UTC)

Cleo Rocos
From what I've read and remember, Cleo Rocos was a big part of Kenny's life. They were best friends for many years and were even engaged at one point (all be it for only 4 days). As far as I can tell, she had a significant influence on him. Does anyone else think there should be mention of her in the article?Nelliejellynoonaa (talk) 09:32, 21 October 2011 (UTC)

Lose a Grave?
The external link to Find a Grave was removed yesterday by User:Nomdplume. I have reinstated twice, but now cannot again without breaching WP:3RR. Curiously the last two removals have been by an anon ip. The use of this site generally seems to be debateable. It can be problematic, but it still has a full WP article - Find a Grave and even its own standard WP template in use -. The consensus seems to be that each case should be judged on its own merits. If this link is not used in the article, then surely at least there should be some reference, with a source, to Mortlake Cemetery, before it is taken away? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:34, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
 * If a site provides notable, reliable and relevant information, the information should be added to the article text, and referenced. See WP:ELNO, point 1.   FindaGrave itself is generally pretty reliable, in my experience, but I don't see much point in adding links unnecessarily to an "External links" section.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:19, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * That seems perfectly fair. It seems strange, though, for there to be a ready-made WP template to make it easier to add an external link to what many consider to be a "pop-up spam site". Martinevans123 (talk) 12:13, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I think the Find a Grave site should be restored as an external link. Citing it within the text would be wrong as it is not a reliable source for verifying anything, but I don't agree it's a pop-up spam site, I'm not even sure what that is. WP:ELMAYBE suggests external links can be considered for "Sites that fail to meet criteria for reliable sources yet still contain information about the subject of the article from knowledgeable sources". In this case, the information is sufficiently interesting to be included. Exok (talk) 12:30, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I was, until now, not aware of WP:ELPEREN - and, as no-one seems to bother to link to it in edit summaries or elsewhere, I doubt if other people here were aware of it either. But, I am now.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 13:14, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh. Thanks, Ghmyrtle. It's probably better excluded then. It's certainly true that the link doesn't add much that is directly, personally relevant to Everett and perhaps by including it we would appear to be endorsing the very poor quality biography it contains. Exok (talk) 13:35, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * WP:ELPEREN is only a proposal, not a policy. That said, there is no verified information on the link that isn't already in the article so there doesn't appear to be any reasonable justification for including it. 20:22, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I see. Where are we told that he was buried (or cremated?) at Mortlake Crematorium? (Oh and by the way - where and when was his funeral, and did anyone turn up? not that FaG actually tells us). Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:38, 12 January 2012 (UTC)

Correct date of marriage
Although the article lists 1966 as the date of Kenny Everett's marriage, it seems that the correct date is 1969.

See, for example, this obituary by The Independent: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/people/obituary-kenny-everett-1614235.html

Press photos also give the date as 1969: http://paimages.co.uk/preview/?urn=2.5097475

I'll make this change if no one objects.

MLilburne (talk) 14:22, 13 October 2012 (UTC)

Opening paragraph
User:190.46.98.195 has persistently tried to change the opening paragraph of the article, without any explanation here, using uncivil edit summaries, and edit warring. This appears to be based on their interpretation of WP:NPOV, without any consideration of WP:LEAD. Any further explanation and discussion here would be welcome. Ghmyrtle (talk) 23:10, 4 December 2012 (UTC)


 * As the user is doing exactly the same thing over at Cleo Rocos, I have taken the liberty of copy & pasting the above and placing it on the discussion page there as well, to try and engage the user. Chaheel Riens (talk) 07:05, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The IP is currently blocked for 48 hours. Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:29, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * I know, but 48 hours isn't long. When the block expires the user now has a chance to discuss in these two places first - although Cleo Rocos is still in it's disrupted state, and I'm not sure whether my changing it back to a previous state would be counted as a 3rr transgression.  Chaheel Riens (talk) 07:37, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * The problem is not so much the content of their edits - which we can discuss, though I don't see any problem in identifying what people are best known for, etc. - but in the manner in which they did it (without discussion, abusing other editors, etc.) If they deign to discuss their proposals on talk pages with other editors, we can take it from there.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:44, 5 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I have seen this type of issue arise on occasion. Some editors feel that "best known for" is a subjective phrase, with no reference to support it. By omitting the phrase, it becomes less contentious.  However, it is no excuse for rudeness. RJ4 (talk) 07:56, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Sure. It would be useful to find sources (obituaries, etc.) that make reasoned claims as to what he is best known for.  It's not usually that contentious though, and no excuse for edit warring in any case.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:01, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
 * Precisely my argument - the Cleo Rocos article does indeed contain a source that specifically states "...Best known as..." ergo it is supported by a reference, and yet the IP still reverted. Chaheel Riens (talk) 11:46, 5 December 2012 (UTC)


 * I don't have a problem with the lead saying "best know for" as the lead is supposed to establish notability, but I found a reference that says he was best known for his tv show if helps with WP:NPOV - .Sarahj2107 (talk) 13:02, 5 December 2012 (UTC)

Freddie
Why is there nothing about Freddie and Kenny relationship on this page? There was even a TV programme about it; http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/tv/information/a7520/when-freddie-mercury-met-kenny-everett.html#~oABrKHu1h26LBo Yet nothing on here Why? --Crazyseiko (talk) 23:15, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
 * Probably because it's not very interesting or crucial to Everett's life. Two celebs met each other.  Big deal.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:32, 6 April 2014 (UTC)


 * That statement makes it awfully clear you have very little interest in Kenny Everett, There is alot more to that, but really not even a paragraph. "  While Kenny was able to assist Freddie's career by plugging Bohemian Rhapsody to enormous success, Freddie encouraged Kenny to be at ease with his sexuality"" . --Crazyseiko (talk) 10:13, 6 April 2014 (UTC)
 * So.... Your question "Why is there nothing about Freddie and Kenny relationship on this page?" is untrue, as you've quoted the very sentence that is included in the article. (Unsourced, but derived from here.)  That, plus the mention that he plugged "BR", is enough.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 10:22, 6 April 2014 (UTC)


 * I just added the new refs to the page about kenny plugging BR. I think there should be one proper paragraph about those two on this page. What does everyone else think? --Crazyseiko (talk) 13:31, 6 April 2014 (UTC)


 * I agree. Go ahead - be bold. RJ4 (talk) 03:25, 7 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Ok, I shall, I do have a few other pages waiting to be delt with before. --Crazyseiko (talk) 22:49, 15 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Delays alas, but, its still on the books. hopeful by the end of the week. --Crazyseiko (talk) 19:57, 13 May 2014 (UTC)

Lead
Rather than slapping a tag on the article, I thought I'd mention it here. I'm not really an expert on Everett, but surely someone here could have a go at expanding the lead to at least a couple of paragraphs... ? Ghmyrtle (talk) 18:43, 13 October 2014 (UTC)

Toyah Willcox
Surely Toyah Willcox deserves a mention in the friends section as she was on his TV show several times. I remember one sketch where Kenny and Toyah dressed up to look like each other and another where Kenny introduced her something like this, "There are many pop stars who are so famous and successful that they are known by a single name: Cher, Madonna - and here is: Toyah Willcox". 208.81.29.53 (talk) — Preceding undated comment added 15:25, 27 October 2014 (UTC)

Piano smashing…
The article contains the following: ''[a character] called 'Yasher the Smasher' referring to a character who smashed pianos. This was indicative of how many people went through a destructive period smashing traditional wooden pianos. The idea was first started with Pete Townshend from the Who encouraging the group to destroy their equipment on stage.'' This doesn’t really seems to have much sense as written. Firstly, on what basis is it reasonable to suggest that “many people” go through a phase of smashing pianos? As for Pete Townshend having in any way started or inspired piano smashing, that’s nonsense. Piano smashing contests as a novelty competition to show speed and strength of competitors had been around for decades by the time Everrett (and Townshend) came along - it was very easy to find video on the net of a contest taking place in the US in the forties, and I wouldn’t be confident that it was in any way the earliest. In Britain, the early series of It’s a Knockout! (from 1966) featured piano smashing, so that may have been some inspiration, but even if not, it shows that the notion of piano smashing being in some way inspired by Townshend as pretty far-fetched. It may be that the character was (as part of their narrative) said to have been influenced by The Who, but without citations it’s not possible to say. Jock123 (talk) 23:10, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Agree. Have trimmed text and tagged. I can't see any online support for this character. Martinevans123 (talk) 23:16, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Disagreement with Freddie Mercury
By 1985, the pair had fallen out over a disagreement over drugs.
 * What was the nature of the disagreement? Did one of them disapprove of drugs? Valetude (talk) 10:43, 24 May 2017 (UTC)

Blankety Blank
Could the section on his television career also add that he was a fairly regular contestant on Blankety Blank when Terry Wogan hosted the programme? Vorbee (talk) 08:11, 5 September 2017 (UTC)

Return to Luxembourg
Everett returned to Radio Luxembourg some time before 1970 to present The Esso Show. I have no information as to when he started and finished presenting this programme, but a downloadable recording can be found at azanorak.com. This was almost certainly pre-recorded as evidence of tape edits can be heard. Although the file is dated 1969, internal evidence dates it as 1970. (Right-click link to download file as password-protected zip; password is freeradio) Lee M (talk) 17:05, 4 August 2018 (UTC)