Talk:Kenny vs. Spenny/Archive 1

New episodes
Does anybody know if they are still making new episodes?

Re: Yes, the second season is still airing (at least in America on GSN, it might be replaying in Canada), and the third season is on the way. At least that's what this article says. Good news, huh? I just wish they wouldn't cuss so much. Imerson 03:28, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

The third season is now underway, having premiered Thursday, 19 Oct 2006 on Showcase in Canada. BaldAdonis 01:01, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Episode Numbers
Does anyone have documentation for the first season episode numbers? The two lists on the page don't match up, and there are no original air dates on the page to judge which is more correct. BaldAdonis 00:58, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

The episodes are listed in order on the kenny vs spenny website, http://www.kennyvsspenny.tv/, i arranged them in this order

Other Versions
The format has been sold to make other shows, from Showcase website "The series format has been sold for development in eight additional territories, and has gone into production in the UK and Ireland (as Ed vs Spencer for Sky TV), Germany (as Elton v. Simon for Prosieben TV), The Netherlands (as Katcha v. Bridget —female opponents — for BNN), Columbia (as Juan Vs Roman for Caracol TV) and Turkey (as Cenk v. Erdem for Show TV)." http://www.showcase.ca/microsites/kennyvsspenny/bios.aspx

Fake?
I like the show, but it sure seems fake at times.

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Erm.

It's on TV, you hoser. OF COURSE IT IS FAKE. Like every other "reality" show in existance, it is entirely, totally, completely, and fully "fake".

What's your point, anyhow?

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Let me give an example.. If I went to see an improv show and later found out it was scripted or rehearsed, I'd call that fake. I have no point, only a question based on intuition.

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I dont think that this show is fake. I have read kenny's (yes the real one) posts on the IMDb message boards and he swears vehemently that its real. heres a link: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0384746/board/thread/31489794


 * I believe it's real, but mainly because I want it to be. It's a cute little show that always makes me grin like an idiot.  -b 06:11, 14 June 2006 (UTC)


 * You can't fake alot of that stuff, like really how are you going to fake walking around downtown back ally streets squeezing the cum from old condoms. Toxic Ninja 00:51, 8 December 2006 (UTC)


 * Well, I suppose you could buy some condoms, fill them with fake semen, drop them on the ground in an alley, and then record yourself picking them up. At least that's how I'd fake it. --70.81.251.32 04:26, 10 January 2007 (UTC)

I don’t think there is any real question about it being ‘fake’, most of the episodes are obviously partly or entirely staged to make them more interesting. Off the top of my head, the one where Kenny gets Spenny’s band members to not turn up to the gig with a recording of Spenny’s voice, that was ridiculous, people are not that gullible/ask that few follow up questions. And think about this, Spenny would not be so easily cheated after the first series (or willing to do the forfeits) after seeing how Kenny made a fool of him. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.192.36.8 (talk) 00:55, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

Bolding on episode lists?
I'm going to change them to quotations per Wikipedia:Manual of Style. -b 06:18, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Winners and Humiliations
I have added a “spoiler” section which includes the winner and humiliation received in each episode. However unfortunately I haven’t seen every episode or just can’t remember who won, if they cheated, the humiliation, etc. So I’m asking for people to add to these tables and hopefully they will be completed soon. Thanks.

Also I am anticipating some controversy/disagreement as to whether or not we should say that the winners cheated on a specific episode and whether or not that person cheated. I think it’s necessary to write “cheated”, because it’s such a significant part of the show and I feel is required information in doing write-up like this one here. Although maybe not legitimately won, I am defining the Winner as the person who didn’t do the Humiliation. And a cheat is explicitly breaking a game’s rules behind the other person’s back.

Please discuss.

J.R. 16:45, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

It only took four days to complete the entire Winners and Humiliations section. Good job and thanks to everyone who contributed.

J.R. 05:36, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

FAKE - entertaining yes, but staged - should be added in wiki page.

 * Okay, after 03x07 (Who can produce more semen?) I am now convinced the majority of the show (at least from season 3) is scripted. I am a 5th year student of radiology and computational tomography and I have found out tons of fallacies with the episode.
 * 01 - Almost all x-ray machines come with huge tungsten bases, that would NOT be portable. Kenny grabed the beam arm. How he was able to take that I have no idea. Either way, he grabbed 1/4 of the machine - it would not operate alone.
 * 02 - If somehow he managed to get all of the equiptment even though none of it was shown, how would he be able to use it? There is no way Kenny was able to power it from a household AC.
 * I could also go in to the facts of Spenny's fake abnormal growth of tissue and sickness, as well as the effects, and prove each of those wrong with numerous medical facts.
 * The bottom line is that this was staged. It was too obvious. Finally, speaking purely as a student who has worked with numerous patients, and had to deal with semen samples from male patients, the liquid which Spenny had thrown on to him was not semen. There is no way samples from saliva, condoms found on the ground, and even his own, could look that uniform. My guess is shampoo or conditioner was used instead of semen.
 * I really do not think any rational person could believe this was real. It was staged. --Op2 11:18, 10 December 2006 (UTC)


 * I have seen discussion on IMDB, which plausibly (in my mind) suggests that Kenny added that section to freak Spenny out when the episode airs... Its the kind of prank that is right up Kenny's alley and if he can trick Spencer as easily as he regularly does, it wouldent be hard to "trick" the average viewer - Anonymous


 * Mmm, yeah that wouldn't work. If Kenny added in that section in to freak out Spenny when the episode aired, why does it have Spenny screaming "If you ever try to radiate me again, I will walk! I swear." at the end of the episode. Yeah, it was so fake.


 * opinions do not=fact. theres no difinitive proof. the spenny speel at the the end could of been taken before kenny told him the truth. until more hard evidance is found i suggest we dont come to conclusions. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 142.167.136.232 (talk) 00:06, 9 January 2007 (UTC).


 * It was that episode that just caused me to look it up on wikipedia to see if it was acknowledged that it was fake. What I've seen of season 3 is a joke. Much of season 2 also. I do hope it hasn't all been staged. —Deadman1848 13:32, 21 January 2007 (UTC)


 * I thought the shows were fake - the clincher being this epsiode (with the X-Ray machine /roll) - until I read what Kenny has to say about it (again, IMDB forums). He explains that it is fake, in as much as that machine was never even plugged in, let alone actually allowed to emit any radiation in Spenny's direction; he also admits he has no idea if it worked (I think he rented it from some kind of dental supplier). The whole idea was simply to freak Spenny out. Because Spenny is able to (and occasionally does) watch the tapes during the filming, Kenny often makes pranks out to be real to the viewers, as well as to Spenny. So it is fake, but not in the way that people perhaps think. The show is not scripted, and Spenny is not in on these pranks (unfortunately sometimes, neither are we).84.19.226.228 16:12, 24 January 2007 (UTC)


 * People who think it's spelled 'could of' should be permanently banned from editing. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.251.82.108 (talk) 02:54, 25 November 2007 (UTC)

=Wins by Cheating?= If competitions where Kenny cheated (14) are not counted, he would still be leading 19-16-4. If those wins do not count shouldn't Spenny get the wins?

This is like arguing that pro-wrestlers who win by outside interference should be stripped of their victories/belts. Within the show they count as wins, so they are wins in the only way that matters. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.192.36.8 (talk) 01:02, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

03x13
The asian guy was the pirate from season 1. Those guys don't act like real security guards. And in case anyone hasn't caught on yet, the show is fake. If you watch the last episode where Spenny gets arrested, Kenny presses charges and later has them dropped. This is something they picked up from watching American TV, in Canada the law doesn't work that way. Also, in the credits someone is credited as a guest star, even though there was none. The only other person in the show who had lines was the cop. This was probably the worst acted episode ever.
 * Not true. When you see the security guard without his sunglasses on you can tell he's clearly not the same as the 'daycare-worker'/pirate.

New episodes?.
Great Kenny Vs Spenny page guys, I was just wondering if there is any info on when the new season would be out?(season 4). Thanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.187.96.158 (talk) 11:32, 15 February 2007 (UTC).

=Merge Episodes with Winners & Humiliations?=

the episodes section of the page seems to be the same thing as the winners and humiliations, except the latter has more info. i suggest removing the episodes section and renaming the w&h section the episodes section. --24.203.60.70 17:14, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

STOP
stop the removal of Kenny Vs. Spenny the internets are the only places i can watch this

Cheating debatable
It's hard to say that anything in the show is cheating, as we don't always see all of the negotiated behind the scenes rules of the competitions. For example, in the homelessness episode, we don't ever hear if there's a rule that Kenny can't take money out of his bank account, vs. a rule that they can't use their bank cards (or anything else). Debatably, this is cheating. Alternatively, something that is probably "clearly" seen as cheating - putting itching powder on Spenny's "standing spot" in the stand-off, is it cheating? or just being crafty? I'd call it cheating in spirit of a fair competition, but who knows if there is anything in the "rules" that forbid him from preparing the carpet. There is too much debatability. The only things that can truely be seen as cheats unarguably are when, say, Kenny removes his blindfold or octopus or whatever and isn't penalized for it. These are clearly "cheating" but more than that, they beg the question of why this is so rarely used. Why doesn't Kenny just sit down when Spenny isn't around in the standing competition? If the crew is apparently not allowed to out Kenny, why can't he talk when Spenny isn't around in the no-talking episode, etc. etc. In addition, one must assume there are rules agreed upon which the viewers do not see. For example, in the standing episode, one must assume there is an agreement that one cannot use force to cause the other to sit down, or you'd think kenny would just try to trip kenny or push him over right away. TheHYPO 09:02, 6 October 2007 (UTC)